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#1201642 - Wed Jul 31 2013 03:41 AM LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!"
Wonder Boy
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Just... wow.


Lyndon Johnson, The N Word, and the Concept of the Democrat Plantation

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In conspiracy circles, Lyndon Johnson is a poignant figure. Taking on the presidency after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, which could very well be the most conspiracy-debated event ever, there are plenty of theories about Johnson being involved in some way. He also presided over a time when civil rights were getting ironed out in America and don’t forget the Vietnam War. In this article, we want to look at a very different side of Lyndon Johnson.

Meet Ronald Kessler. An American journalist who authored a book called Inside the White House that was released back in 1996. In the book, he had a few quotations that Lyndon Johnson supposedly made aboard Air Force One that raised quite a few eyebrows. Now, first of all, let’s remember that we have only Kessler’s word to go on. No one has ever corroborated these quotations, so there is always the chance that they were simply made up, embellished, or taken grossly out of context. However, historians generally agree that the comments seem to be right in character for Johnson, and no one has really protested or questioned the authenticity of the comments.

“I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.” —Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One -

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.”—LBJ

Of course, today we live in different times. If these words were uttered today, the outrage would be unreal. This was a different time when some of the words used in these comments were used much more frequently. It is the stance of Common Sense Conspiracy that the term “nigger” should never be used for any reason in our current society. There are always those people that try to argue that it doesn’t mean that or doesn’t mean this, but the reality is if you use this extremely flagrant word, even in jest or talking about something other than African Americans, you have to realize the negative connotation that goes with it. Regardless of the intent it is used with, the bottom line is there isn’t a whole lot of good reasons to be saying “nigger” in our society. The worst scenario is you are making a racist statement; the best scenario is you are making a joke in very bad taste.



Having said that, we move on. If Johnson did speak these words in the privacy of his mansion in the sky, what does it mean? Enter the long-standing conspiracy of the Democrat Plantation. The concept is simple. The Democratic party is known for representing the lower classes, but how does it represent them? Ask any Republican and they will mumble something about the welfare nation. Ask any Democrat about Republicans and they will tell you that they only care about the rich. But does either party really care about the poor (or the middle class for that matter)? Lyndon Johnson’s comments are kind of eerie against the backdrop of America decades later. The term “Democrat Plantation” was no doubt coined by some Republican somewhere. It suggests that the Democratic party seeks to “enslave” the lower classes by providing government programs that make them increasingly dependent on the government. They then are indebted to the party that gives, and therefore vote for them to make sure that they don’t lose the little bit that they have. That’s what Johnson was talking about. ”Enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.” He would have African Americans voting for the Democratic party for 200 years if they offered the “helping hand” that they “needed.” Is it just a little frightening that it seems that he was right on target thus far?


Herman Cain said he would not “live on the Democratic Plantation” during his briefly successful run at the Republican nomination in 2012.

We are not suggesting that African Americans or any American vote Republican or Democratic. Every person in our great nation has the right to vote, and therefore has the right to make up their minds for themselves. Is it true? Is there a Democrat Plantation? At the time these now infamous words were possibly uttered, the African American population faced greater challenges than their white counterparts. While this certainly still exists in some capacity, in 2012, African Americans have lots of opportunities that their ancestors didn’t. The affirmative action laws have helped level the playing field in the realm of employment. Civil rights will always be an issue until true equality is achieved, which is probably something that can never happen in our world. More likely, it would only shift with the other demographic getting the shorter end of the stick. Such is the plight of a society of human beings.

Common Sense Conspiracy is not a Republican nor a Democratic site. In fact, we have spent what would amount to reams of pages talking about our distaste with the two-party system and our sincere belief that both parties are part of a single unit with a single agenda when everything is said and done. So, for us, the concept of the Democratic Plantation is not about political parties, despite the name. It is about the system of government and what their true mission is. The “enslavement” that is suggested by the Democratic Plantation no longer applies to African Americans, but Americans. If you are not part of the rich elite, you are at risk for being part of the plantation. It’s no longer about color of skin, racism, or bigotry. It’s about a New World Order, a state of control and the concept that patriotism is no longer a feeling of pride for your country, but a feeling of loyalty to a government that provides for you.

If Johnson were alive today, and he decided unwisely to use the same terminology, then wouldn’t all of us that rely on the government be “niggers?”

White people, black people. Latinos. Just another day on the Democratic Plantation.

Is it time for us to get a little “uppity?”

People need a helping hand sometimes. But they must make sure that hand is helping them up and not holding them down.

We apologize for the N word and hope that our readers will know that we use it only to illustrate our point.




But then, just like the current push by Democrats for amnesty... we already knew that, didn't we?

Just not that LBJ had said it so overtly.


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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1201643 - Wed Jul 31 2013 07:57 AM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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If their website is talking about a democratic plantation the site is GOP. It's a stupid GOP talking point. Trying to trick and divide the country so a few wealthy can get even more.

The GOP owned House just recently passed a farm bill full of free stuff for wealthy corporations but stripped out food stamps for the truly needy. Poor kids mostly.

Fuck you.

Fair play!

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#1201646 - Wed Jul 31 2013 10:49 AM G-man hates his wife because she feels compassion for poor kids, and not Corporate America [Re: Matter-eater Man]
MisterJLA
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Wealthy corporations employ people. Who cares about poor kids?

Signed,

G-man

"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"




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#1201647 - Wed Jul 31 2013 11:23 AM Re: G-man hates his wife because she feels compassion for poor kids, and not Corporate America [Re: MisterJLA]
Wonder Boy
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The topic manifests Democrats' clear attempt to enslave a majority of the American people with dependency on entitlements, and in particular their cynical contempt for black America in pursuit of that, with entitlements put in place by LBJ.

Those entitlements (Food Stamps, and Disability) have roughly doubled under Obama's first four years alone. Even as the black unemployment rate has doubled.


The farm bill --as much as it relates to this topic, without derailing it-- is an attempt to reign in spending that Democrats have elevated 50% in the last 5 years for food assistance.
The poor will not starve from a 3% cut in food assistance spending that was proposed.
What's truly callous and cruel to the middle class and poor is the Democrats enacting massive new regulation (including Obamacare) that has stagnated job creation, while forcing additional financial burden on that same middle class and poor, as well as all businesses.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1201650 - Wed Jul 31 2013 12:39 PM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
If their website is talking about a democratic plantation the site is GOP


The LBJ quote is attributed to a book, "Inside the White House," by Ronald Kessler. From what wikipedia says about him (and for what wikipedia is worth) he seems like a well respected journalist with a fair number of mainstream credentials. The reviews of the book are generally positive and indicate it was equally tough on both GOP and Democrat presidents.

This would seem to indicate that the LBJ story referenced by the so-called GOP website is as likely as not accurate.

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#1201651 - Wed Jul 31 2013 04:49 PM Re: G-man hates his wife because she feels compassion for poor kids, and not Corporate America [Re: MisterJLA]
Pariah
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 Originally Posted By: MisterJLA
Foodstamps! Foodstamps for all! They make everything better!

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1201652 - Wed Jul 31 2013 05:18 PM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Pariah
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
The GOP owned House just recently passed a farm bill full of free stuff for wealthy corporations but stripped out food stamps for the truly needy. Poor kids mostly.

Fuck you.


Yep. That's exactly the kind of obfuscation LBJ used to get the kind of political clout he wanted. Congrats on successfully channelling your hero MEM.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1201653 - Wed Jul 31 2013 08:10 PM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: Pariah]
MisterJLA
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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
Even though I have a lot more in common with people on foodstamps than I ever will with the top 1%, I will blindly defend my Wall Street friends with my last breath if need be! I know they would do the same for me.


Sure they would, Pariah. Sure they would.


"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?"




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#1201655 - Wed Jul 31 2013 10:19 PM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: the G-man]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
If their website is talking about a democratic plantation the site is GOP


The LBJ quote is attributed to a book, "Inside the White House," by Ronald Kessler. From what wikipedia says about him (and for what wikipedia is worth) he seems like a well respected journalist with a fair number of mainstream credentials. The reviews of the book are generally positive and indicate it was equally tough on both GOP and Democrat presidents.

This would seem to indicate that the LBJ story referenced by the so-called GOP website is as likely as not accurate.



From the article in my opening post:

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Meet Ronald Kessler. An American journalist who authored a book called Inside the White House that was released back in 1996. In the book, he had a few quotations that Lyndon Johnson supposedly made aboard Air Force One that raised quite a few eyebrows. Now, first of all, let’s remember that we have only Kessler’s word to go on. No one has ever corroborated these quotations, so there is always the chance that they were simply made up, embellished, or taken grossly out of context. However, historians generally agree that the comments seem to be right in character for Johnson, and no one has really protested or questioned the authenticity of the comments.




I previously had no idea one way or the other what Ron Kessler's journalistic reputation was, prior to you saying the above, G-man.

But I find it very telling that as incendiary as the LBJ quotes were, no one challenged their authenticity, and those who knew LBJ found these quotes "right in character for Johnson".


And, I might add, consistent with the cynical goals of Harry Reid and others in their selection of Barack Obama, exploiting him as a black candidate, but one who didn't speak "black dialect" that Reid saw as offputting to white voters. And the envious racist comments of Bill Clinton ("a few years ago, he would have been bringing us coffee") and Jesse Jackson.
All described in another tell-all book exposing Democrat racism, Game Change by Marc Halperin.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1201656 - Wed Jul 31 2013 10:29 PM Re: LBJ on 1964 Civil Rights Legislation: "I'll have niggers voting Democrat for 200 years!" [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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The Jesse Jackson comments on Obama, from Wikipedia:

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On July 6, 2008, during an interview with Fox News, a microphone picked up Jackson whispering to fellow guest Dr. Reed Tuckson:[62] "See, Barack's been, ahh, talking down to black people on this faith-based... I want to cut his nuts off."[63] Jackson was expressing his disappointment in Obama's Father's Day speech chastisement of black fathers.[64] Subsequent to his Fox News interview, Jackson apologized and reiterated his support for Obama.[63]

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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