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#1193842 - Sun Feb 03 2013 12:55 PM Baker won't bake a gay cake.
Lothar of The Hill People
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http://www.katu.com/news/business/Did-a-...-189450071.html

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GRESHAM, Ore. -- A Gresham baker is the subject of a state investigation after he refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple.

Did Sweet Cakes owner Aaron Klein violate the law when he told the couple that he couldn’t sell them a cake because “they were abominations to the Lord?”

That’s what Oregon Attorney General's civil enforcement officers are looking into after one of the brides-to-be filed a complaint on Jan. 28.

The woman who filed the complaint said she had previously bought a cake from Sweet Cakes for her mother’s wedding. It was fine. But when her partner went back for their wedding cake on Jan. 17, the owner refused.

Klein on Friday denied making the harsh statement, but admitted to a KATU reporter on camera that he did deny her service.

“I apologized for wasting their time and said we don’t do same-sex marriages,” he said. I “honestly did not mean to hurt anybody, didn’t mean to make anybody upset, (it’s) just something I believe in very strongly.”

But beliefs aren’t enough to cover him under state law. The Oregon Equality Act of 2007 prohibits discrimination against people based on their sexual orientation and gender identity. The statute includes public accommodations, such as businesses.

Klein emphasized the importance of his religious beliefs, saying it outweighs his bottom line and the state law.

“If I have to be to, I guess, be penalized for my beliefs, then I guess, well, that’ll be what it is,” he said.

The question now: whether his constitutional rights outweigh state statute.

“My First Amendment rights allow me to practice my religion as I see it,” Klein said.

We asked Portland attorney Paula Barran whether this case falls under the 2007 statute. She said it did, but added that she did not know how the owner’s religious beliefs would factor in.

“Statutes don’t get to overcome constitutional protections, so if somebody had a religious-based reason for wanting not to trade with somebody, I think you have a really interesting test case for whether or not a statute like this can apply,” Barran said.

There is no exception under the state's anti-discrimination law for religious beliefs. Ultimately, the case would be up for a judge to decide.

The woman who filed the complaint declined to comment to KATU until she receives further legal advice.

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#1193845 - Sun Feb 03 2013 02:05 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Lothar of The Hill People]
Lothar of The Hill People
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Gays always get upset if you don't approve of them.
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#1193846 - Sun Feb 03 2013 02:55 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Lothar of The Hill People]
the G-man
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We'll take your word for that, Lothar.

But, seriously, it seems like the appropriate remedy here would be for gays and gay supporters to just not frequent the bakery, in lieu of sicking the government on the baker for exercising his own first amendment rights.

I figure we're about five years away from the homosexual lobby criminalizing anyone criticism of gays even by religious organizations.

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#1193848 - Sun Feb 03 2013 08:58 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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It will go even further and force hetrosexuals to engage in homosexual acts of sex.

Fair play!

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#1193850 - Sun Feb 03 2013 09:08 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Nah. I figure that's about twenty years away. Sorry, MEM.
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#1193851 - Sun Feb 03 2013 10:15 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: the G-man]
Pariah
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Man, these fuckers in the comment section are cunts.

You try to reason with them and they just keep throwing the word "bigot" at you. It's like having a dozen Klintons post at the same time.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1193856 - Mon Feb 04 2013 08:43 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Pariah]
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Gays seem to not understand the concept of free speech. If this guy doesn't believe in gay rights or want to endorse the lifestyle by baking gay-event cakes, that is certainly his right, whether gays like it or not.


I did a Google search under gay cake, and there was certainly plenty to see. Some of it playful, some of it creative, some of it downright offensive.

Would that gays exhibited the tolerance for conservative free speech that we allow them.

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#1193857 - Mon Feb 04 2013 08:52 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Wonder Boy]
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#1193858 - Mon Feb 04 2013 08:54 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Wonder Boy]
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#1193859 - Mon Feb 04 2013 08:57 PM Re: Baker won't bake a gay cake. [Re: Wonder Boy]
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