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#1221777 - Mon Sep 26 2016 02:15 PM Debate's tonight...
Pariah
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And Lestor Cunt has already said he's going to Correct the Record in his attempt at a Candy Crowley impersonation. More than likely it's because Hillary's losing right now and he feels desperate enough to look like a total shill--and Clinton writes his paychecks of course.

Hopefully, Trump calls him out on it with his opening statements. He needs to use the phrase "Clinton News Network" at least once.

Not sure I'll be able to catch it live, but we'll see. Honestly, I'm more concerned about the ICANN surrender in four days than I am with the debates.

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#1221778 - Mon Sep 26 2016 10:16 PM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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Dammit. She hasn't passed out yet.

She is looking pretty angry though, and her eye is doing the twitchy thing.

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#1221779 - Mon Sep 26 2016 10:24 PM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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And, of course, Lestor Holt gives gimpy, crooked Hillary a hand.

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#1221780 - Mon Sep 26 2016 10:43 PM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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Aaaaaand it's over.

He hit her pretty hard on some good points, but that was fairly boring, to be quite honest.

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#1221781 - Mon Sep 26 2016 11:03 PM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
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I haven't seen it yet. Mainstream (left-wing, biased, Trotsky-ite, Marxist-Leninist, pinko) media gives it to Clinton. The Atlantic says Trump was punchy and unscripted, Clinton was thoroughly prepared and incisive. So nothing unexpected there because that is their respective styles.

There was a lot of media attention on Clinton's attack on Trump's treatment of women. That was obvious too and if Trump was going to prepare for anything, he should have had a defence for that. The transcript indicates that he did not.

Clinton took a fall on the email scandal admitting it was a mistake.

The New York Times did say that voters got a raw and unfiltered view of the two candidates without media embellishment one way or the other. That seems most likely.

I'm looking forward to watching it. I was curious to see what you guys thought of it. "Quite boring" wasn't what I was expecting.

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#1221784 - Mon Sep 26 2016 11:11 PM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: First Amongst Daves]
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It wasn't boring, lol.

Fair play!

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#1221789 - Tue Sep 27 2016 12:20 AM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: First Amongst Daves]
Pariah
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 Originally Posted By: First Amongst Daves
I haven't seen it yet. Mainstream (left-wing, biased, Trotsky-ite, Marxist-Leninist, pinko) media gives it to Clinton. The Atlantic says Trump was punchy and unscripted, Clinton was thoroughly prepared and incisive. So nothing unexpected there because that is their respective styles.


If by "prepared and incisive", you mean she had prepackaged sound-bites and platitudes up the ass, then you're absolutely correct.

Whereas she tried to get him bogged in the details, Trump's approach was issue-based. He made sure the same point was reiterated: America, and the world, is in the shitter because of Clinton/Obama ans, as such, it's ludicrous to ask her to fix it.

Quite frankly, if Trump had arrived with anything less than the attitude he had, he would have gotten creamed and simply would have come across as disingenuous. There are a few things I wish he'd done differently, but my primary concern is that he didn't let Holt control him throughout the episode.

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There was a lot of media attention on Clinton's attack on Trump's treatment of women. That was obvious too and if Trump was going to prepare for anything, he should have had a defence for that. The transcript indicates that he did not.


Yes, no doubt liberals want us to focus on personal feelings and allegations of prejudice so as to ignore the fact that Hilldawg and company broke the law flagrantly, sold military secrets, and created ISIS.

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Clinton took a fall on the email scandal admitting it was a mistake.


Not even remotely. The gentleness of the word "mistake" implies that she was somehow not cognizant of its implications. In reality, she circumvented any transparency pertaining to its use and then proceeded to cover up her tracks when she got caught. She seeks to encapsulate the weight of these offenses with lukewarm terminology so as to effectively neutralize them. She'll take a fall when she's dragged off to prison.

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#1221791 - Tue Sep 27 2016 01:12 AM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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Involuntary muscle spasms.

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#1221792 - Tue Sep 27 2016 07:01 AM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Pariah]
Matter-eater Man
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Lol

Fair play!

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#1221796 - Wed Sep 28 2016 02:21 AM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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For all the attempts by the liberal media to paint it as a victory for Hillary Clinton, Trump for the most part gave a spirited performance, and despite being tag-teamed on by both Hillary Clinton and moderator Lester Holt (repeating the violated neutrality of Candy Crowley and Martha Raddatz in the 2012 debates), Trump refused to be boxed in and denied his ability to respond to a mountain of allegations heaped on him (as compared to the softballs given to Hillary).

It was quite entertaining to see Holt repeatedly try to shut Trump down, and Trump repeatedly seized the time he needed to respond proportionately to what was hurled at him. It was funny after one of those times where Hillary after waiting for Trump at length to finish his points said: "WOO !"
But she was attempting to mock Trump, while evading his points about her failures and criminal behavior, and not acknowledging the validity of his defending himself against a mountain of allegations hurled at him, as compared to Hillary not being given fair and equal scrutiny in either the moderator's questions given her, or in the far greater scrutiny and interruptions moderator Holt gave to Trump's answers.

The two best moments were during the discussion of NAFTA and TPP trade agreements, where Hillary attempted to sugarcoat and lie, and Trump just shut her down and rattled her, interrupting her and refusing to let her get away with her lies. That Bill and Hillary were personally responsible for the export of factories and jobs that began with NAFTA, and that Hillary was fully on board for TPP (even as she denied she was for it, and Trump exposed her as having called it the "gold standard of trade agreements" !)
That in 30 years, Hillary had never solved, or even had an interest in the nation's problems, and her alleging to do so now is just empty talk disproven by her lifetime in politics. And her false promises to black voters intertwined in those false talking points.

Also a nice takedown was when Hillary talked about how she would destroy ISIS, and Trump said that she and Obama had the opportunity to destroy ISIS "when it was a little baby, and now it's in over 30 countries" and "now you say you're going to destroy ISIS?!? I don't think so." It was pure Trump, a mixture of pragmatic business sense, and his own personal brand of phrasing and sarcasm.

Yes, Trump got off on a few tangents, led down the rabbit-hole by personal attacks Hillary bombarded him with (and Holt assisted). But overall he made his points well. My only complaint is that Trump didn't fully take Trump down as well as he could have.

As Hannity pointed out, about 20 online polls declared Trump the winner. Yet CNN and the mainstream media (including FOX) declared Hillary the winner. That's not what I saw. Trump was in control the whole debate, despite the best attempts to reign him in by both Hillary and the moderator.



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