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#1221797 - Wed Sep 28 2016 02:33 AM Re: Debate's tonight... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
Offline brutally Kamphausened

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Newt Gingrich: Trump won the debate.


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After all my years in public life I am sickened by the intellectual dishonesty, arrogance, and smugness of what Nassim Taleb calls the Intellectual Yet Idiots.

The IYI's showed up immediately after the debate.

They stacked the deck against Trump with Lester Holt's one-sided questions and interventions.

The Holt-Clinton team was glib, articulate, and self-congratulatory. However, they lost.

  • Trump wins strategically because in a blunt, clear style, he is saying things most Americans believe. Trump's opponents, including Holt and Clinton, felt good after the debate because their side was glib, articulate, and said things they and their friends believe to be true.


The Intellectual Yet Idiot class that dominates our news media fell all over themselves critiquing Trump and praising Holt and Clinton.

In doing so, they repeated the mistake they have made about every debate since August 2015.



Trump wins strategically because in a blunt, clear style, he is saying things most Americans believe.

Trump's opponents, including Holt and Clinton, felt good after the debate because their side was glib, articulate, and said things they and their friends believe to be true.

The Intellectual Yet Idiot class is so out of touch with America that they don't even realize how badly they are doing and how well Trump is doing.

Salena Zito is one of the country’s most perceptive journalists, in part because she is grounded outside of Washington and New York. Her column about the debate, "How Trump Won Over a Bar of Undecideds and Democrats," should be required reading for everyone who wants to understand why Trump strategically won the debate.

This process of media elites and Washington insiders reassuring themselves that Trump lost while a variety of online polls showed him winning decisively has been going on since the very first Fox News debate in August 2015.

Trump has a hard time with media elites because they earn a living by talking. The media values glibness. In their world you can speak nonsense if you do it smoothly and convincingly.

Secretary Clinton is a professional politician. She has been campaigning as a volunteer, spouse, and candidate for 46 years (far longer than Trump suggested). She volunteered for Joe Lieberman's state senate race in 1970. She and Bill worked for George McGovern in Texas in 1972. Secretary Clinton is also a Yale-educated lawyer. She combines Ivy League polish and arrogance with verbal smoothness and four decades of political speak.

Trump is a blunt, let's-make-a-deal, let's-get-the-building-built, let's-sell-our-product businessman.

The first debate showcased a blunt, plain spoken businessman and a polished professional politician.

Of course the Intellectual Yet Idiot insiders would pick Hillary. They share her passion for words without meaning, analysis without facts, and promises without performance. They are more than for her. They are her.

In fact, it is worth looking at a list of online polls to understand the gap between the elites and the vast majority of Americans. This list is long because I want to show you how willfully out of touch and dishonest the Intellectual Yet Idiot class is:

Time: Trump 55 Clinton 45

Fortune: Trump 53, Clinton 47

N.J.com (New Jersey): Trump 57.5, Clinton 37.78

CNBC: Trump 68, Clinton 32

WCPO Cincinnati: Trump 57, Clinton 37

Variety: Trump 58.12, Clinton 41.88

Slate: Trump 55.18, Clinton 44.82

WKRN Nashville: Trump 64.58, Clinton 35.42

Las Vegas Sun: Trump 82, Clinton 18

Fox5 San Diego: Trump 61.45, Clinton 33.69

San Diego Tribune: Trump 65, Clinton 35

If you go to the Daily Mail, you can see that the list goes on and on.

Clinton won a handful of liberal sites with liberal audiences but she lost virtually everywhere else.

The elites can argue Trump does better in online surveys because his supporters are more energized, but that is a self-defeating analysis.

The lack of energy and enthusiasm for Clinton is a big problem for her.

In Iowa, the Democrats currently have one half the number of absentee ballots they’d received for Obama at this point in 2012. Polls in Iowa reflect a decisive Republican lead in a state Obama carried twice.

In Wisconsin, the Marquette University poll shows Clinton ahead by only 3 points.

In Minnesota, a poll which came out this week shows the race tied at 43-43.

If Clinton has to fight for Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin, her campaign is in real trouble.

Trump is beginning to pull away and she has to stop the momentum.

On Monday night, she failed.

Trump won because he didn't make a major mistake and he stuck to the facts.

I was proudest of him at the very end.

Hillary was vicious, nasty, mean-spirited, and arrogant. Look again at those final minutes.

Hillary knew there was almost no time left and so she rattled off a memorized rant about Trump insulting women. The look on her face is smug.

You could see Trump thinking.

He was really mad at the end of the debate with her cheap shot.

His natural pattern in Republican debates would have been to humiliate her with all of Bill's accusers and her role as his defender and enabler.

It would have been powerful and ugly.

But he stopped. He thought, “This is not what a potential president would do, and I will not do it in front of Chelsea.” He responded as a president and not a candidate.

The media elite were thrilled that Hillary could be so mean and nasty.

The country will prefer a president with self-discipline and a sense of decency.

Trump is going to become president unless he makes a big mistake.

Clinton is going to lose again unless she turns the momentum around.

Monday night, Trump conveyed his core messages. He may have lost on glibness but he won on sincerity, empathy, and authenticity.



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#1221798 - Wed Sep 28 2016 02:56 AM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
Offline brutally Kamphausened

Registered: Wed Sep 12 2001
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 Originally Posted By: Pariah


 Originally Posted By: Australia-Dave

Clinton took a fall on the email scandal admitting it was a mistake.


Not even remotely. The gentleness of the word "mistake" implies that she was somehow not cognizant of its implications. In reality, she circumvented any transparency pertaining to its use and then proceeded to cover up her tracks when she got caught. She seeks to encapsulate the weight of these offenses with lukewarm terminology so as to effectively neutralize them. She'll take a fall when she's dragged off to prison.



I'd forgotten that. Trump did another nice takedown of Hillary here in the debate, saying the e-mail server and deletions, destroying of the server, smashing two of her cel-phones with a hammer by aides, were "far more" than "a mistake".
While he touched on the criminality of how all her closest assistants had taken plea bargain agreements with the FBI to avoid jail sentences, I felt Trump could have done a far better job of explaining the contempt for the law, and the damage Hillary has done to the United States with her illegal e-mail server. FBI director James Comey, while for corrupt reasons not prosecuting Hillary, said it is a "virtual certainty" that every e-mail she sent as secretary was hacked by both the Chinese and the Russians. That's FOUR YEARS OF TOP SECRET E-MAILS AS SECRETARY OF STATE, AND EVERY E-MAIL TO AND FROM OTHER CABINET MEMBERS, INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT. Four years of the innermost strategy of White House officials she communicated with. Four years of confidential sources whose lives were endangered by that exposure. Russia and China might be in position to initiate a nuclear first strike, or know from internal communication how to win a conventional war against the United States.

Hillary Clinton is nothing less than a Benedict Arnold, who has already compromised national security, without the slightest conscience or regret. And would be perfectly content to CONTINUE to sell out the entire nation for millions in donations to the Clinton Foundation, past and future.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1221799 - Wed Sep 28 2016 07:37 AM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Wonder Boy]
Pariah
Offline The conscience of the rkmbs!

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Hilldawg was using hand-signals to tell Lester Cunt what questions to ask.



And, yet again, she was using an invisible ear-piece.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1221800 - Wed Sep 28 2016 04:51 PM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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Fuck, they took the video down.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1221801 - Wed Sep 28 2016 04:54 PM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
Offline The conscience of the rkmbs!

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I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1221807 - Wed Sep 28 2016 10:59 PM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Pariah]
PJP
Offline We already are

Registered: Tue May 06 2003
Posts: 32001
Loc: Perfectville: Population 1
She was being fed lines. She's a zombie at this point. He didn't do great but it was his first real debate and did ok.
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#1221815 - Thu Sep 29 2016 09:14 AM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: PJP]
Pariah
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Apparently, he caught her having a seizure and pointed it out. They've edited this part out and they're taking down every video that highlights it.

WEW! Okay!

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1221818 - Thu Sep 29 2016 01:01 PM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: PJP]
the G-man
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 Originally Posted By: PJP
She was being fed lines. She's a zombie at this point. He didn't do great but it was his first real debate and did ok.


She had more drugs in her system to keep her going then Elvis in 1976

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#1221826 - Thu Sep 29 2016 08:13 PM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
Online   argumentative Fair Play!

Registered: Sat Jun 07 2003
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Lol, you guys know all your bitchiness maybe should be more appropriately aimed at the guy who bragged about not preparing for the debate. Sort of poor judgement on Trump's part correct?

Fair play!

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#1221829 - Fri Sep 30 2016 08:04 AM Re: The first Trump Clinton presidential debate [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Pariah
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Oh, Hilldawg prepared alright. Such that it wouldn't have mattered if Trump did or not.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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