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#1222551 - Mon Dec 05 2016 10:22 AM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Come on. If any Republican got elected under those exact same circumstances and Time (or anyone else) called it a mandate, you'd have had a fit.

In fact, I don't recall you thinking George W. had a mandate in 2000 or 2004.

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#1222552 - Mon Dec 05 2016 09:16 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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Not surprised you feel that way. You're pretty partisan. Here for example you render the word mandate meaningless because the popular vote went to the democrat.

Fair play!

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#1222553 - Mon Dec 05 2016 10:54 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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In any event, getting back to the recount, I understand that as of today the net result is Trump has a net GAIN of six votes over the total on election night.

I hope you didn't donate too much to the recount MEM.



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#1222555 - Wed Dec 07 2016 05:24 PM Stein may have just exposed the rig... [Re: the G-man]
Pariah
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HNN: Michigan Recount: Over 1/2 of Hillary Clinton’s Detroit Vote Faces Disqualification

  • Michigan votes in areas that voted for Hillary Clinton have been inflated due to worker error disqualifying recounts under state law.

    Michigan officials say they can not reconcile vote counts in 610 of 1,680 precincts, or 59% of the precincts, in Michigan’s largest county , Wayne County, which Hillary won by a margin of 2 to 1 over Donald Trump because the original vote counts in the poll books do not match the number of votes in the machine printout reports.

    Specifically, the number of votes recorded by the voting machines were higher than the number of voters that were logged into to vote in these precincts.

    The news comes as Hillary Clinton lost 32,423 votes in day 5 of the Wisconsin recount which are now showing anomalies that may indicate absentee ballot fraud in Milwaukee.

    In many cases Canvassers say there were aware of the discrepancies in the original vote counts but gave no explanation for the why counts did not match up but certified the original election counts anyway.

    Now officials are mainly blaming the discrepancy on jams in the optical ballots in the scanners which forced workers to run the same ballots through the machines more than once.

    To prevent a ballot scanned multiple times from being counted as more than one vote poll workers were supposed to adjust the machine counters but officials stated the workers failed to do so in many cases.

    They also state in more rare cases there could have been issues with people not having identification being manually placed in boxes or rare human errors such as sealing the wrong number of votes for certification due to transposing numbers.

    Michigan state law requires precincts which poll books don’t match to be excluded from the recount and if the recount results can’t be certified, which requires reconciliation of the counts, the original certified results stand.

    Issues due to human error, such as sealing the wrong number of votes in the original certification should be easily reconciled during a hand recount but in the precincts in question they are unable to reconcile the votes.

    The discrepancy was only uncovered yesterday after an Obama appointed judge issued a midnight ruling ordering a hand recount in Michigan on Sunday.

    Despite state law requiring the votes be disqualified election officials are fighting to keep the counts included and believe that not all of the 392 precincts will be excluded from the final recount.

    There are also discrepancies in other counties Clinton carried but they are not as widespread as Detroit

    Clinton carried Genesee County, which includes Flint, where so far 13 of 222 precincts are reported with invalid results but officials certified the results there as well.

    Officials in Ingham reported six of their 30 precincts from Lansing including a ballot box with a hole in it which could have been used to slip in fraudulent ballots or remove legitimate ones.

    Votes in Rochester Hills precinct 11 in Oakland county have been disqualified after more ballots were found in the machine logs than were actually in the ballot box. Workers could offer no explanation other than it didn’t match in the original certified results and it doesn’t match now before conceding that the precinct is not recountable.


I'm starting to believe that theory a whole lot more.

Especially since, mayhaps, this is not simply a vie for honesty and an attempt to expose how Stein, herself, was cheated, but also to expose the corruption of the Democratic Party and possibly have the Green party inherit the DEM voter base as a result.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1222560 - Thu Dec 08 2016 06:06 PM Re: Stein may have just exposed the rig... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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TGP: Michigan Recount Uncovers Serious Voter Fraud in Detroit- VOTES COUNTED UP TO 6 TIMES

  • More bad news for Democrats—
    Green Party candidate Jill Stein’s Michigan recount unintentionally exposed this major voting fraud scandal.




    In Detroit, one of the chief ways they engage in voter fraud is to count the same ballot MULTIPLE times. This is just ONE way. They also do some shady stuff with absentee ballots etc.

    Once they started the Michigan recount in earnest, and knowing he would be exposed, the Detroit City Clerk Daniel Baxter all of a sudden started claiming that the optical scanners which read the paper ballots did not work the day of the election. Baxter blamed the discrepancies on decade-old voting machines. That is his cover story. Nothing like this was mentioned until he realized their voting fraud scheme would be detected.

    Baxter’s claim is that, when trying to push the ballots through the readers, the ballots would be stuck and they’d have to push them through again thus ‘ACCIDENTALLY’ resulting in a double count. He says the poll workers sometimes ‘FORGET’ to adjust the machine count and instead let the ballot count twice.

    Of course, that’s COMPLETELY BULLSH*T.

    ** Over One-Third of Detroit Precincts Will Not Be Recounted Due to Ballot Discrepancies

    And, it’s much worse than that.
    In one Detroit Precinct, a recount team was given a box of ballots with an unbroken seal where everything appeared proper and in place. The tag on the box said there were 306 ballots. The book said 306, and the ticket said 306, so that means there should be 306 paper ballots on the box. When they pulled out the ballots, there were exactly FIFTY paper ballots in a locked sealed box that again was supposed to have 306. The official canvasser approved count for this precinct was 306. For FIFTY ballots.

    It looks like Detroit counts each vote more than SIX TIMES! No wonder they get such high turnout rates!

    Ken Crider, who helped with the recount in Cobo Hall in Detroit, posted this on Facebook last night. Ken said a ballot box in Detroit had been tampered with — and that each vote was counted SIX TIMES!


Barring more conflicting information, I'm prepared to call Jill Stein a genius. As a Green, she's still technically on Soros' payroll, but apparently she cares more about the party than the agenda of its sponsorship. She, like everyone else, knew that Hilldawg rigged the vote--using the various methods I mentioned prior. As such, she also knew that, because of the rig, it was all but certain that the Green Party would be robbed of the 5% threshold that would qualify it for federal funding in future elections (incidentally, the Libertardian party was most assuredly robbed as well).

Keeping this in mind, as well as her previous criticism directed toward Shillary, we have sufficient evidence to reason her motives as going beyond an attempt to undermine Trump. All the same however, if she started any recounts in Killary-won states, it would be a very unpopular move, and she would be immediately shot down. So what's the alternative? Three Trump-won states. The only perceived goal of a recount would be to undermine Trump. In which case, any attempt to crowd-source for this seemingly pro-Hillary recount strategy would attract the open wallets of zealous liberals who're still butthurt over the loss--perhaps even Soros himself, which would explain the bot donating so much cash.

And this turns out to be the real reason that Killary's campaign insinuated itself into the recount effort: to keep people from finding out the truth. But apparently, it wasn't enough.

My question: did Trump have foreknowledge of Stein's move all along? Did he, perhaps, help fund the operation, assuming he knew?

And even though Stein's Pennsylvania recount isn't panning out as smoothly as she'd like, suspicious vote counts have been realized through the absentee ballots: out of the of the 20,736 absentee ballots cast, 18,467 went to Clinton.


I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1222563 - Mon Dec 12 2016 11:22 AM US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Pariah]
the G-man
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Associated Press:
  • A federal judge on Monday issued a stinging rejection of a Green Party-backed request to recount paper ballots in Pennsylvania's presidential election, won by Republican Donald Trump, and scan some counties' election systems for signs of hacking.

    In his 31-page decision, U.S. District Judge Paul Diamond said there were at least six grounds that required him to reject the Green Party's lawsuit, which had been opposed by Trump, the Pennsylvania Republican Party and the Pennsylvania attorney general's office.

    Suspicion of a hacked Pennsylvania election "borders on the irrational" while granting the Green Party's recount bid could "ensure that that no Pennsylvania vote counts" given Tuesday's federal deadline to certify the vote for the Electoral College, Diamond wrote.

    "Most importantly, there is no credible evidence that any 'hack' occurred, and compelling evidence that Pennsylvania's voting system was not in any way compromised," Diamond wrote. He also said the lawsuit suffered from a lack of standing, potentially the lack of federal jurisdiction and an "unexplained, highly prejudicial" wait before filing last week's lawsuit.

    The decision was the Green Party's latest roadblock in Pennsylvania after hitting numerous walls in county and state courts. Green Party-backed lawyers argue that it was possible that computer hackers changed the election outcome and that Pennsylvania's heavy use of paperless machines makes it a prime target. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein also contended that Pennsylvania has erected unconstitutional barriers to voters seeking a recount.

    It is part of a broader effort by Stein to recount votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won all three states narrowly over Democrat Hillary Clinton, while Stein captured about 1 percent of the vote, or less, in all three states.

    In Pennsylvania, Trump beat Clinton in Pennsylvania by about 44,000 votes out of 6 million cast.

    A federal judge halted Michigan's recount last week after three days. The Wisconsin recount was expected to conclude Monday. With about 95 percent of the votes recounted as of Sunday, Clinton had gained 25 votes on Trump, but still trailed by about 22,000.

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#1222565 - Sat Dec 17 2016 06:52 PM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Wonder Boy
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Well, the Democrats (and their allies in the media), have tried multiple post-election campaigns to undermine the legitimacy of Trump's presidential election victory:

1) Blaming James Comey for re-opening his investigation of Hillary 11 days before the election. (Then closing it again a few days later.)
2) Obsessing over Hillary's winning the popular vote, despite her losing the electoral vote. (Even though there's some persuasive evidence Hillary rigged the popular vote. Just as she rigged her victory over Bernie Sanders, rigged the debates by knowing the questions in advance, etc., etc.)
3) In collaboration with Jill Stein, demanding a re-count, which again didn't go Hillary's way, and in some cases showed even more votes for Trump in the re-count.
4) Now they're selling the narrative that "The Russians wanted Trump to win", and implying if not outright saying that Trump was openly colluding with the Russians to do so. But there's no evidence that Russian hacking attempts had any effect on the election, regardless of their intent. The Russians didn't piss off voters by vowing to destroy the coal industry, Hillary did. The Russians didn't skip campaigning in Ohio and Pennsylvania, arrogantly complacent in her assured victories there, Hillary did. The Russians didn't rig the primaries against Bernie Sanders, didn't pay front-men $1,500 each to start violence at Trump rallies, didn't cheat in the debates by getting the questions in advance. Hillary did.

The latest effort to discredit Trump's election victory is 5) harassing and intimidating electors into not voting for Trump as they are obligated by law to do. In some cases, even making death threats at electors if they vote for Trump. A nice glimpse of what Hillary's Reich would have been like, had she won. No one ever so richly deserved to lose, like Frau Hitlery deserved to lose. And to anyone not already part of the indoctrinated Left, that is increasingly obvious.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1222566 - Sat Dec 17 2016 06:59 PM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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ELECTION THERAPY FROM MY BASKET OF DEPLORABLES
by Maureen Dowd


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The election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama: his fantasy world of political correctness, the politicization of the Justice Department and the I.R.S., an out-of-control E.P.A., his neutering of the military, his nonsupport of the police and his fixation on things like transgender bathrooms. Since he became president, his party has lost 63 House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.

The country had signaled strongly in the last two midterms that they were not happy. The Dems’ answer was to give them more of the same from a person they did not like or trust.

Preaching — and pandering — with a message of inclusion, the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted, rudeness is routine, religion is mocked and there is absolutely no respect for a differing opinion. This did not go down well in the Midwest, where Trump flipped three blue states and 44 electoral votes.

The rudeness reached its peak when Vice President-elect Mike Pence was booed by attendees of “Hamilton” and then pompously lectured by the cast. This may play well with the New York theater crowd but is considered boorish and unacceptable by those of us taught to respect the office of the president and vice president, if not the occupants.

Here is a short primer for the young protesters. If your preferred candidate loses, there is no need for mass hysteria, canceled midterms, safe spaces, crying rooms or group primal screams. You might understand this better if you had not received participation trophies, undeserved grades to protect your feelings or even if you had a proper understanding of civics. The Democrats are now crying that Hillary had more popular votes. That can be her participation trophy.

If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving. Not one of the top 50 colleges mandate one semester of Western Civilization. Maybe they should rethink that.

Mr. Trump received over 62 million votes, not all of them cast by homophobes, Islamaphobes, racists, sexists, misogynists or any other “ists.” I would caution Trump deniers that all of the crying and whining is not good preparation for the coming storm. The liberal media, both print and electronic, has lost all credibility. I am reasonably sure that none of the mainstream print media had stories prepared for a Trump victory. I watched the networks and cable stations in their midnight meltdown — embodied by Rachel Maddow explaining to viewers that they were not having a “terrible, terrible dream” and that they had not died and “gone to hell.”

The media’s criticism of Trump’s high-level picks as “not diverse enough” or “too white and male” — a day before he named two women and offered a cabinet position to an African-American — magnified this fact.

Here is a final word to my Democratic friends. The election is over. There will not be a do-over. So let me bid farewell to Al Sharpton, Ben Rhodes and the Clintons. Note to Cher, Barbra, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham: Your plane is waiting. And to Jon Stewart, who talked about moving to another planet: Your spaceship is waiting. To Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z, Beyoncé and Katy Perry, thanks for the free concerts. And finally, to all the foreign countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, there will not be a payoff or a rebate.

As Eddie Murphy so eloquently stated in the movie “48 Hrs.”: “There’s a new sheriff in town.” And he is going to be here for 1,461 days. Merry Christmas.



Yes, you read the name correctly. That scathing critique of the Left was by Maureen Dowd!



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#1222567 - Sun Dec 18 2016 10:32 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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Dowd hates Clinton, that's a column she's been writing in different variations for probably the last decade. I found our CIA and FBI reports much more interesting but since it amounts to Putin helping elect Trump to weaken us, it's something you won't ever accept as true.

Fair play!

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#1222568 - Sun Dec 18 2016 09:24 PM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Putin helping elect Trump to weaken us


Just for the sake of argument, assume that Putin had the power to elect one candidate over another. Why didn't he Putin (if he thought Hillary was such a threat), not knock her out in the primary so that he'd have either Trump or Bernie "the Socialist Peacenik" Sanders?

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