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#1222478 - Sun Nov 20 2016 08:38 AM Re: Election Day 2016 [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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I included this for the George Soros perspective.
But the black Captain America social justice warrior fighting for PC
against whites is new to me, and could warrant a topic all its own.



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#1222479 - Sun Nov 20 2016 08:51 AM Re: Election Day 2016 [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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Man...



Why millions of Electoral College protestors are likely to fail at making Hillary Clinton president

 Quote:
BUSINESS INSIDER
Rebecca Harrington, Nov 20th 2016 4:00AM


Thousands of people have taken to the streets in the week since the election, outraged that Donald Trump is the new president-elect.

Since Hillary Clinton likely won the popular vote, over 4 million have signed a petition to encourage the Electoral College to make Clinton president instead.

The electors will gather at their state capitols in December, and vote to formally make Trump the 45th president.

With so many citizens calling on the Electoral College to choose Clinton, and some electors even saying they will switch their votes, could it happen?


HOW DOES THE ELECTORAL VOTE STAND RIGHT NOW?

Each state has an elector for every congressperson they have, plus D.C. gets three, resulting in 538 people in the Electoral College.

Trump won the popular vote in 30 states, plus one of Maine's districts (which, along with Nebraska, splits up its electors by district), giving him 290
electoral votes. Michigan's results still aren't official, but given that Trump only needed 270 to win, it doesn't really matter.

While Clinton won almost 1 million more votes than he did overall because she carried population-heavy states like California and New York, she only
won the popular vote in 19 states plus D.C. — giving her 232 electoral votes.

HOW WOULD ELECTING CLINTON WORK?

Members of the Electoral College who decide to go against their state laws or traditions telling them who to vote for are quite ominously called
"faithless electors."

They're pretty rare in modern political history. Thomas H. Neale, an expert in American government and the electoral college for the Congressional
Research Service, found that only eight electors have been faithless since 1900.

Only electors from the party that won the popular vote get to cast their ballots in December, so only Republican electors will vote in the states
that Trump won, and only Democratic electors in the states Clinton carried.


If Trump wins Michigan as he's projected to do, Clinton would need 38 electors to vote for her instead. And if she carries the state, Clinton
would need 22 electors to flip.

"Even if Michigan's 16 electors went to Clinton, it would still be 290-248, and that's a lot of electors," Neale told Business Insider.
"That would require a lot of electors to change their mind."


WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF IT ACUALLY HAPPENING?

Several barriers are in place preventing electors from turning "faithless."

First, Neale said, 30 states plus D.C. have laws on the books "binding" their electors to vote for the candidate who won the state's
popular vote. Punishments for becoming a faithless elector range from paying a fine to being replaced with an elector who will follow the rules.

Trump has 155 unbound electoral votes, so there are technically enough electors who could decide to vote for Clinton who wouldn't get punished
legally for it.

Second, electors are usually selected by the political parties in each state, Neale said. Because at least 290 electors voting in December
will be Republicans, the petitioners encouraging them to vote for Clinton instead would have to convince them to abandon their party.

"The important point here to realize is these are all party loyalists, and they are pretty carefully vetted," Neale said. "Part of that
is because there have been the occasional faithless electors in the past who have been an embarrassment to the party, and they want to make
sure they avoid it."

A few electors have spoken out about being faithless (they call it being "moral"), but unfortunately for Clinton, they've said they plan to write
in former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, or Sen. Bernie Sanders' name.

But members of Congress can formally protest any faithless elector votes, and have them thrown out, when they officially count the ballots
in a joint session on January 6, 2017.

"One of my legal colleagues suggests that the joint session is the 'break glass in case of emergency' — it's the last line of defense
against an election that may have been corrupted in some way," Neale said.

Finally, history isn't on Clinton's side.

"The argument can always be made that, 'Well, Sec. Clinton won the popular election and therefore she should win the presidency.' This is the
core argument of the direct popular election reform movement to eliminate the electoral college," Neale said. "But that argument has been
raised time and time again, and Congress hasn't acted on this proposal since 1979."

Plus, the few times faithless electors have gone against their party's nominee, they've never swung an election.



...the Democrat butthurt continues.


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#1222508 - Tue Nov 22 2016 06:13 PM Re: Election Day 2016 [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
Offline brutally Kamphausened

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I didn't get around to posting this before, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieAJ3ddbBQo

... in the closing panel Fridays on Special Report (their 6PM flagship news broadcast), they always pick political "winners" and "losers" for the week.
One winner picked by Tom Rogan (on Friday, Nov 18, 2016) was Pat Buchanan, saying that the issues Buchanan has championed since 1992 are basically the issues that got Trump elected.
And that a Trump administration is essentially the next best thing to a Pat Buchanan administration.

Needless to say, I couldn't possibly be more pleased with that notion.


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#1222524 - Sat Nov 26 2016 01:36 AM Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Pariah
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Stein has apparently developed a sense of scrupulosity and concern-trolling. She has raised close to 4.2 million dollars in the span of a few days--just in time for the Friday deadline--to pay for the filing fees that will cover a recount in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. By PURE COINCIDENCE, she has chosen only states that Donald Trump won and would only INCIDENTALLY hand the race to Hilldawg assuming the recounts turn up Hillary wins as a result.

Suffice it to say, the details of her demand are suspicious--only by PURE COINCIDENCE of course--in that she was raising $160 thousand every hour. Someone managed to trace the influx of funds to a bot, most likely run by Soros. This also comes on the heals of "expert programmers" and "election lawyers" urging Killary to call for a recount even after her concession. Surely, we cannot assume that Hilldawg would use Stein as a proxy so that she wouldn't look like an idiot.....No we couldn't possibly assume that.

We also couldn't assume that the Green Party is controlled opposition leveraged by Soros...

Warning, Spoiler:
Jill Stein's running mate, Ajamu Baraka, has worked for at least two organisations funded by Soros

Evidence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajamu_Baraka

 Quote:
"From 2004 to 2011, Baraka served as the founding executive director of the US Human Rights Network"

"Baraka has served on the boards of several human rights organizations, including Amnesty International, the Center for Constitutional Rights"


Soros connection:

http://www.ngo-monitor.org/ngos/center_for_constitutional_rights/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_supported_by_George_Soros

 Quote:
"CCR [Center for Constitutional Rights] received contributions from […] the Open Society Foundation (founded by George Soros – $495,000)"


USHRN: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/11/04/united-nations-human-rights-council.html
archived: https://archive.is/7eXDR

 Quote:
"Funding for the network and its Geneva submission apparently comes from the Human Rights Fund, an umbrella group whose steering committee of philanthropies include the Ford >Foundation, George Soros’ Open Society Institute, the Overbrook Foundation and an anonymous donor."

__

Now, this raises a few questions. Mainly why anyone would consider (((Stein))) a credible alternative to Clinton, when they're both getting paid by the same lobbyist billionaire.

It also casts doubt on any positions Stein and Baraka hold that'd be contrary to Soros' agenda. Like their support for Palestine/BDS, and their statements against the Soros-backed coup in Ukraine, and the corrupt Junta in Kiev.

Controlled opposition? Would be an explanation why Soros is indirectly funding them.

Let's take a closer look on the so-called US Human Rights Network:

 Quote:
"What they apparently share, according to their mammoth Human Rights Council submission, is a militant vision of the U.S. as a malignant force."

"The organization seeks "to challenge the pernicious belief that the United States is inherently superior to other countries of the world"


Well, oy vey, goyim, don't you dare being proud of your country!

That sounds more like something everyone's favourite Social Justice Merchant would come up with.

Now, Soros also has well-known ties to "Blacklivesmatter", something else that ties him directly to (((Jill Stein))):

http://jill2016-jillstein.nationbuilder.com/blm_ferg
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/69350262.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKdRZncVAAEPKKN.png

In conclusion, Baraka is Soros' personal stooge, BLM are useful idiots, and nothing the Green Party does can be taken at face value.

They're dancing to the tune of the Open Society Foundatiion.


....Nah, that couldn't possibly be true. And we definitely CANNOT ASSUME that all of these PURE COINCIDENCES are designed to try and de-legitimize Trump's win as well as line the Green Party members' pockets. That's clearly an absurdity.

Warning, Spoiler:










....It just never fucking ends.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1222525 - Sat Nov 26 2016 02:19 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Pariah
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And now the Clinton campaign is participating in the recounting to "ensure fairness" or some bullshit like that.

Jebus. These people really will start a war to cover up their crimes.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1222528 - Tue Nov 29 2016 07:38 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Wonder Boy
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It's not really a surprise that Jill Stein's crew has connections to George Soros.

It's a clear collaborative effort between Stein and the Clinton campaign.
But even the most liberal in the media say it's sour graapes, and a recount doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of changing the election.


In other news, Michigan FINALLY conceded its electoral votes to Donald Trump, after a few weeks of shaving down Trump's lead.

Jill Stein, collaborating with Hillary on the re-count, is the same Jill Stein who 3 weeks ago said Hillary would start World War III, and that Trump was less scary by comparison?

At least Stein missed the deadline for a re-count in Pennsylvania.

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#1222530 - Tue Nov 29 2016 08:26 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Pariah
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There's another theory floating around.

Mayhaps Jill Stein is a rogue agent (considering she criticized Clinton as being the war candidate) and she's in cahoots with Trump to push this recount effort to make Hilldawg look like an idiot who's obviously in cahoots with Stein and Soros to try and steal the election. Thus, this situation gives Trump the greenlight to bring up the fact that millions of people voted illegally in Hillary's favor, more than likely diminishing what could have been a stronger republican majority in the process--not to mention a bigger landslide in the Electoral College and a Trump-owned popular vote.

In which case, Stein either got Trump to fund her effort OR duped Soros into feeding her money. In response, the Clinton campaign may very well be shitting bricks at the prospect that an unsupervised recount will expose fraud on her end, thus motivating her to stick her campaign's oar into the creek in the interest of "insuring fairness".

Wisconsin has already uncovered yet more votes for Trump that weren't previously counted.

I'm lost without the sig divider.

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#1222535 - Tue Nov 29 2016 11:46 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Wonder Boy
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The complete reversal by Jill Stein regarding Hillary Clinton's candidacy makes almost any explanation possible.

In the case of Michigan I listed above, delaying the release of Michigan's state vote totals reduced Trump's 13,000 vote lead down to about 10,500. This is the kind of Democrat vote-counting delay that gave Al Franken a senate seat.

The possibility that Stein might use a recount to put the screws to Soros and Hillary, using their own financial backing, would be a beautiful scenario.

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#1222536 - Thu Dec 01 2016 02:12 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
the G-man
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 Originally Posted By: Pariah
And now the Clinton campaign is participating in the recounting to "ensure fairness" or some bullshit like that.

Jebus. These people really will start a war to cover up their crimes.


GOP files complaint alleging Clinton, Stein illegally coordinating in Wisconsin recount

  • The complaint contends that Stein only received 31,006 votes in Wisconsin — so Clinton is the only person who could benefit from a recount.

    The complaint also alleges Clinton appears to have illegally helped Stein raise nearly $7 million for the recounts in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan — double the amount Stein raised for her own presidential campaign. It says the Clinton campaign also emailed supporters looking for volunteers to help the recount, something Stein’s campaign didn’t do.

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#1222537 - Sat Dec 03 2016 01:03 AM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: the G-man]
Wonder Boy
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There's a lot of exposure given to the Harvard-sponsored debate between Jennifer Palmieri and Kelly Ann Conway, where Conway wiped the floor with Palmieri.

Something Conway pointed out is the collective liberal media focused entirely on the electoral votes leading up to election day, selling us the inevitability of Hillary's election, due to the 244 "guaranteed" electoral votes (which didn't happen) and the "blue wall" of PA, OH, WI, MI (which didn't happen).
The liberal media focused entirely on the electoral votes. Now that Hillary lost, their focus is entirely on the popular vote, the portion that Hillary won while losing the actual election.

Conway also destroyed Palmieri and the other guy's notion that Trump didn't have a mandate, pointing out that beyond Trump's electoral victory, the Republicans also won 34 state governor offices, gained 60 Congressional seats, and gained 12 Senate seats during Obama's presidency, plus GOP control of thousands of other seats in state legislatures nationwide. Which manifests an overwhelming mandate for change from what the Democrats have put in place.

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