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#1222538 - Sat Dec 03 2016 03:50 AM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Pariah
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I saw that. It was beautiful to watch.

Of course it's not too difficult to wipe the floor with delusional libshits.

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#1222539 - Sat Dec 03 2016 09:08 AM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Matter-eater Man
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If a mandate means the support of the people, Trump has no mandate since more people voted for the other person. He and the GOP did well electorally via gerrymandering and the electoral college but it's a result that doesn't reflect the will of the people.

Fair play!

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#1222540 - Sat Dec 03 2016 03:28 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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If that's how elections were done, M E M, then candidates would only campaign in a few large cities, like New York city, L.A., San Francisco and Chicago. And the rest of the country would be ignored. With the electoral college, all areas are represented, and aren't shut out by a few tiny concentrated blue areas of the country.

Whether you like it or not, the rest of the country does matter, M E M. And Trump played by the rules, and won fair and square by those rules, despite every dirty trick and corruption by the vile core leadership of the DNC and Hillary campaign.

Re-read what I wrote above. Trump and the Republicans do have a mandate, not just by Trump's election, but also by the landslide of seats the GOP picked up in the Senate, Congress, elected state Governors, and state and local legislators.

And after every other deception and dirty trick unleashed by the Democrats, what makes you so sure that Democrats didn't rig the popular vote? Oh, that's right. Rules don't matter to you, only that your side wins, by whatever deceitful means.

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    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1222541 - Sat Dec 03 2016 03:31 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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Something Conway pointed out is the collective liberal media focused entirely on the electoral votes leading up to election day, selling us the inevitability of Hillary's election, due to the 244 "guaranteed" electoral votes (which didn't happen) and the "blue wall" of PA, OH, WI, MI (which didn't happen).
The liberal media focused entirely on the electoral votes.

Now that Hillary lost, their focus is entirely on the popular vote, the portion that Hillary won while losing the actual election.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1222544 - Sat Dec 03 2016 06:08 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Wonder Boy]
Pariah
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Obamatard had a really choice quote some months back in response to Trump's charge that the vote and the polls was being rigged.

He essentially said that Trump would only have a valid argument of fraud if he won despite being so low in the polls.

I really wish I could find it now.

 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
If a mandate means the support of the people, Trump has no mandate since more people voted for the other person. He and the GOP did well electorally via gerrymandering and the electoral college but it's a result that doesn't reflect the will of the people.


How in the motherfuck could you claim that the GOP is guilty of gerrymandering? Is this Bizarro world, or what?

In any event, Trump's political siege has overseen the manifestation of nation-wide majorities in congress, state legislatures, and governorship. That is a mandate. The GOP is a hair's breadth away from being able to pass, theoretically, constitutional amendments.

Even if I were to accommodate Clinton's millions of fraudulent voters as an argument, we are not a democracy. We're a Federalist Republic. While I haven't been a fan of federalism for quite some time, the Electoral College is the only means by which to fairly give every respective state--and the various cultures housed within them--a say over the direction of the country under such a system. What you propose would be a tyranny of the minority since all one would need is a single over-proportionately populous state to decide the fate of every other state in the union. That is bullshit. We are a collection of fifty sovereign states. Not a superstate with fifty provinces.

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#1222545 - Sat Dec 03 2016 11:59 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Matter-eater Man
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Yeah, don't really care about your politically motivated accusations. The piece of shit got less votes and so doesn't reflect the will of the people. Don't worry though he'll still able to fuck the country up and get lots of us killed without a mandate.

Fair play!

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#1222547 - Sun Dec 04 2016 08:05 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Pariah
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Whatever you care to believe about the Clinton and her campaign's "honesty", you cannot ignore the fact that we are NOT A FUCKING SUPERSTATE. We are not a Tolkienian system in which we prop up one state to rule them all. The word for that is "tyranny".

The day that we decide the popular vote is all that matters is the day that we are no longer a republic. And quite frankly, neither you or your ilk put any emphasis on the popular vote prior to the election. It is only now, after competing for--and losing--the Electoral College votes, that you libshits are raising a stink about it. That makes you look particularly foolish.

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#1222548 - Sun Dec 04 2016 09:24 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Pariah]
Matter-eater Man
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I was commenting on Drumf's non-mandate. There was an attempt to say he had one.

Fair play!

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#1222549 - Sun Dec 04 2016 09:49 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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Bill Clinton won with 43% of the popular vote in 1992 and the press called that a mandate.



Trump got nearly 47% of the popular vote.

So, by the press' definition would that not be a mandate?

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#1222550 - Sun Dec 04 2016 10:13 PM Re: Jill Stein attempting to retroactively steal the election... [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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Clinton unlike Drumf, got more votes than the other candidates. Time magazine probably wouldn't have had mandate in a cover story otherwise. It would look foolish trying to claim a mandate with a candidate that received less of the popular vote yes?

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