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#1222572 - Mon Dec 19 2016 08:19 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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I think Putin used what he had in the best strategic way. Remember Wikileaks intentionally timed the leaks to do the most damage. In other news republicans are starting to increasingly warming up to Putin more.

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#1222573 - Mon Dec 19 2016 08:21 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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#1222574 - Mon Dec 19 2016 09:04 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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CIA and FBI intelligence vs internet memes, sad but it's the future for you I guess

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#1222575 - Mon Dec 19 2016 09:59 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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I understand that you're still reeling from your girl's crushing, and in all likelihood, final defeat. As such, you need to find some excuse to explain it.

However, even if accept as true that Russia hacked the DNC and attempted to influence the election, there is not one scintilla of evidence that it did, in fact, affect the outcome.

First off, as reported in the Wall St. Journal, there was an attempt to hack the RNC as well. But it failed. It failed because the RNC had tighter security and cooperated with the FBI in stopping the hack. The DNC, conversely, did not.

Second, the emails weren't fake. And they were largely the kind of "insider baseball" that journalists find interesting for a day or two but generally don't hold much sway with the general public. Indeed, as leftists are quick to point out, Hillary won the popular vote. If, as you know claim, the emails were turning off voters she wouldn't have done so.

The bottom line here is that Hillary lost because she got overconfident, thought she had about three states "in the bag" that weren't and Trump was able to peel off just enough of the white working class vote in those states to take the electoral college. Even Bill has more or less admitted that.

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#1222576 - Mon Dec 19 2016 10:09 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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I would note you are the one avoiding the CIA & FBI intel. Russia helped Trump win. Why they did that should make you very uncomfortable.

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#1222577 - Mon Dec 19 2016 10:22 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I would note you are the one avoiding the CIA & FBI intel. Russia helped Trump win. Why they did that should make you very uncomfortable.


I didn't ignore anything. I pointed out that, even if we concede your point, that is not why Trump won.

Even Obama is saying that isn't why Trump won:
  • President Obama is blaming his party's electoral losses this year on Democrats' failure to "show up" and make their argument all around the country.

    In an interview with NPR broadcast Monday, the president said the country has a "scrambled political landscape."

    "There are some things that we know are a challenge for Democrats structural problems," he said.

    Obama noted that Democratic voters are often clustered in urban areas and on the coasts.
    "So as a consequence, you've got a situation where there're not only entire states but also big chunks of states where, if we're not showing up, if we're not in there making an argument, then we're going to lose," he said.

    "And we can lose badly, and that's what happened in this election."

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#1222578 - Mon Dec 19 2016 10:28 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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Putin helped depress the turnout for Clinton though. You guys were having orgasms when Wikileaks timed the releases but it was Russia cupping your balls

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#1222579 - Mon Dec 19 2016 10:48 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
the G-man
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Putin helped depress the turnout for Clinton though...when Wikileaks timed the releases...


As you have just admitted, Wikileaks timed the releases, not Putin.

Even if one were to concede that the leaks (as opposed to your other whipping boy, Comey)(or even Jill Stein) depressed turnout, Putin didn't time them.

Accordingly, there is no way for Putin to have "depressed the turnout" in the manner you described.

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#1222580 - Mon Dec 19 2016 11:01 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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You "forgot" that Russia supplied Wikileaks with the material.

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#1222581 - Mon Dec 19 2016 11:03 AM Re: US judge rejects Green Party's Pennsylvania recount case [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Matter-eater Man
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Do you think Russia helped Trump to strengthen our country?

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