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#1225287 - Sun Mar 25 2018 08:53 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: the G-man]
Matter-eater Man
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I praised McCain and even considered voting for him. And it's not just demaocrats that think he's unfit. I suspect that number will grow in your party once it's safe

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#1225288 - Sun Mar 25 2018 09:00 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Matter-eater Man
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Since you spoke up g perhaps this is a good point for you to talk about how you feel Trump is fit for the office. For the record \:\)

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#1225298 - Wed Mar 28 2018 09:01 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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As I said in the Charlottesville topic:

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And your constantly calling Donald Trump a "piece of shit" just underscores how vitriolic, emotional and completely unhinged your logic is.

President Trump has achieved more good for the nation in barely his first 9 months than Obama did in 8 years. And reversed and repealed much of the damage Alinsky/Ayers/cultural Marxist Obama (and Hillary Clinton) had previously done.

In roughly his first 6 months, Trump exceeded 3% annual growth, where Obama stunted economic growth with obstructionist policy to 2% or less in all of his 8 years.
Trump is rebuilding our military, has overseen a 25% increase in the stock market, has vastly reduced welfare and disability by creating jobs, has currently reduced illegal border crossings by an incredible 78% (!!!!) and has restored our international prestige by standing up to the Iranians and North Koreans. Unemployment is the lowest since 2001. Manufacturing is the highest since 2004.

And all you have is slander, in the attempt to tear down a president who is in opposition to the globalist/corporate elites in both parties, and for the first time since Ronald Reagan, arguably even more so than Reagan, is serving the best interests of the nation, and of its people.

I am daily awed at how this president has achieved so much, particularly in the face of such opposition, both from wealthy elites, from the obstructionist Democrats who will never give him credit for ANYTHING, and from the turncoat RINOS in his own party (McCain, Graham, Flake, McConnell) many of whom promised to repeal Obamacare, and then did the opposite of what they promised after Nov 2016.

Like no other political leader since Reagan and Gingrich, Trump is a political leader who made promises to voters, and has been committed to doing exactly what he promised.


And again, you hold Trump to a standard regarding extramarital affairs, and even SEXUAL ASSAULT and RAPE, that you don't hold to Bill Clinton, enabler wife Hillary Clinton who led the charge to slander these women, kicking them down to advance her own career. And womanizers/ sexual abusers Ted Kennedy, JFK, RFK, Gerry Studds and Barney Frank.
Among many others.


In light of your silence on these DEMOCRATS who did far worse, your outrage rings hollow and hypocritical, M E M.
And ignores that Trump has accomplished more than any other recent president. Certainly more than America-hating Alinsky-trained Cultural Marxist demagogue Barack Obama.

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#1225300 - Wed Mar 28 2018 10:38 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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We had 20 some years of talking about Clinton. Funny how when Trump commits adultery you just double down on Clinton. Actually it's not funny nor sadly that shocking. Trump is the one who committed adultery not me WB. Do you think your judgement doesn't look partisan?

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#1225301 - Wed Mar 28 2018 11:24 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
We had 20 some years of talking about Clinton. Funny how when Trump commits adultery you just double down on Clinton. Actually it's not funny nor sadly that shocking. Trump is the one who committed adultery not me WB. Do you think your judgement doesn't look partisan?


Because nothing is PROVEN about Trump.

Because EVERYTHING was proven true about Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton was forced by his guilt to pay $850,00 in damages to Paula Jones. And if I recall, another $80,000 fine to the American Bar Association, along with revocation of his law license.

In contrast, Trump's alleged extramarital trysts were CONSENSUAL. Whereas Bill Clinton forced himself on Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie and Juanita Broaddrick. And Broaddrick was a loyal Democrat and fundraiser for the Democrats, why would she ever make up such an incident?

Bill Clinton committed perjury.
Bill Clinton was disbarred for 5 years as a lawyer, for obstruction and contempt of the law that as both a lawyer and an elected official he was sworn to uphold. Bill Clinton obstructed a $40 million special investigation. The entire U.S. Supreme Court, in contempt for Clinton's perjury and obstruction of the law, would not attend his State of the Union for the remainder of his term. Not just the Conservative judges, ALL of them!

What crime is Trump even accused of having committed? NONE.
He (at worst) had a one-night fling with a pornstar 12 years ago, a year into his marriage, and 11 years before he became president. So what.

I could also repeat what Pariah said a year ago, about the "Clinton body count", of the number of witnesses and journalists who were going to expose the Clintons, who mysteriously disappeared or "committed suicide" right before coming forward to expose the Clintons.

You like to call Trump a "piece of shit" and so forth, in your baseless slanders. In point of fact, Trump's accomplishments are quantifiable and undeniable, far surpassing any president in recent decades. Trump is a non-partisan who is saving America from the destructive policies of the far-Left and the globalists, and is cleaning up corruption in Washington, even that of establishment Republicans of hiss own party. Which is precisely why they oppose him so fiercely. Trump is the solution, not the problem.


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#1225302 - Thu Mar 29 2018 07:20 AM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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He's a piece of shit that has a system set up to pay out hush money without apparently having to sign the legal documents that he's using against Stormy and who knows how many others.

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#1225303 - Thu Mar 29 2018 04:19 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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The $850,000 paid out to Paula Jones in a settlement could be considered hush money, yes?

I also recently watched a 60-minute documentary titled JFK's Women: The Scandals Revealed. Just highlighting the women who were dangerous to national security were
1) Inga Arvad (1941, a Dutch reporter and German spy, the Navy wanted to dishonorably discharge JFK for regularly boasting about Navy secrets in bed with her, but because of his money and family power, despite his treason, he was just assigned to another Navy post that ceased their liason.)
2) Judith Campbell (1960, the call girl/girlfriend of Al Capone successor Sam Giancanna's second in command, and under FBI surveillance, JFK's sharing her favors created a direct link and potential extortion by the Mob of JFK. )
3) Marilyn Monroe (1962, who was sharing a bed with both JFK and RFK, and again under FBI surveillance, and JFK or both boasted national security secrets and mob connections that made Monroe terrified to the point she broke off contact. She could have leaked state secrets if she remained alive, or at least brought down the Kennedy administration. She may have been killed to silence her, there are many irregularities about the way she died, including a missing coroner's report.)
4) Marianna Navotny (1963, a call girl and communist, with family relations to the then-communist Czech president. Again, under FBI surveillance, and potentially destroying JFK's ability to remain president if exposed.)
5) Ellen Rometsch (1963, another call girl and East German spy, who could have been used to blackmail Kennedy or topple his presidency, another under FBI investigation. According to the documentary, the Senate wanted to open a public investigation, and RFK begged FBI director J. Edgar Hoover to recommend the Senate against it. Hoover stopped the investigation, which made the Kennedy administration subservient to Hoover from that point on. But if exposed, JFK's affair would have forced his impeachment or resignation. This last call girl was paid a large sum of cash to buy her silence, and everyone wanted her to talk. Kennedy was saved from exposure by his death.

Lyndon Johnson as president was allegedly worse. Including a sexual affair with his biographer Doris Kearns Goodwin. As we discussed in previous topics, Johnson is known to have had people killed. Potentially including his predecessor JFK, who wanted to dump LBJ as Vice President in his 1964 re-election, and possibly LBJ had him killed to allow him to be president.

Nixon, his crimes are so well known they don't need to be further detailed.

I skipped them, but FDR, Truman and Eisenhower are all known or alleged to have had extramarital affairs as well.

George H.W. Bush was also alleged to have at least one affair during his presidency.

Bill Clinton... again, I don't even need to explain his "piece of shit" insatiable compulsion for extramarital affairs. But again, unlike Trump, Clinton's affairs are PROVEN, and include sexual harassment of employees, sexual assault, and rape, not just consensual sex.

So... in light of all this, what makes Donald Trump uniquely a "piece of shit", as you turn a blind eye toward all these others who have done the same or far worse? Trump's indiscretions don't rise to the level of "piece of shit" actions by FDR, JFK, LBJ, Nixon or Bill Clinton.
Beyond partisan selective outrage, I don't see a case made for your attitude toward Trump. Anything that will smear Trump or bring him down, right?

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1225310 - Thu Mar 29 2018 08:33 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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All your making clear is that if Clinton had been a republican you and the GOP would have treated it much differently. Instead you literally have decades of talking about it and using it politically. Clinton didn't have lawyers like Trump does nor had everyone including exwives sign non disclosure forms. He didn't send people to parking lots to threaten mothers with babies. Clinton's adultery will follow him and his legacy. The ride is just getting started with mr. grab them by the pussy and his enablers.

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#1225311 - Thu Mar 29 2018 09:26 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Wonder Boy
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
All your making clear is that if Clinton had been a republican you and the GOP would have treated it much differently. Instead you literally have decades of talking about it and using it politically. Clinton didn't have lawyers like Trump does nor had everyone including exwives sign non disclosure forms. He didn't send people to parking lots to threaten mothers with babies. Clinton's adultery will follow him and his legacy. The ride is just getting started with mr. grab them by the pussy and his enablers.


I haven't seen that Trump's legal team is that exemplary.

I pointed out that Clinton committed crimes, WAY beyond just consensual sex or an extramarital affair. He was collectively fined in the neighborhood of a million dollars, he was disbarred. He was impeached, censured, fined. HOW IS THERE >>>ANY<< equivalency in that to the relatively minor actions of Trump?

Likewise, the Kennedys had money equivalent to that of Trump. And the Kennedys used bribes and influence to hide their sexual affairs and crimes. I'd further point out that both JFK and RFK won elections due to Mafia assistance (Joseph Kennedy's mob connections, dating back to his bootlegging and insider trading days.)

You take wild speculation and half-baked manufactured stories by blatantly anti-Trump sources as absolute fact, from two porn stars, no less, pornstars who were perfectly willing to take a $130,000 nondisclosure payment, and then 11 years later come out of the blue with wild sexual stories. Scout's honor!

Give me a break.

And for clearly documented events involving the Clintons and the Kennedys, you give a complete free pass.
For allegations that are ABSOLUTELY UNPROVEN about Trump, you accept unquestionably every word. This is a batant and desperate attempt for the Left to convict or at least smear Trump out of office, with any vile trick they can pull off. Most of the public sees that. Except for the far-Left/MediaMatters crowd, who have a long history of these kind of smear tactics.


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#1225313 - Thu Mar 29 2018 11:25 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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I noticed Stormy made the fat pile of shit shut up. Somebody who has no problem calling women accusers liars is treating this one differently.

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