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#1225335 - Thu Apr 05 2018 07:25 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
Matter-eater Man
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So Trump now says he was not informed about his lawyer paying out hush money. Time for Stormy and all the other women to get the fat fuck under oath.

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#1225341 - Thu Apr 05 2018 10:17 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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CNN and MSNBC: ALL DAY ALL NIGHT, ALL STORMY WEATHERS ALL THE TIME!! 24/7 !!!

Meanwhile, all the treasonous stuff Hillary and Obama did, rigging elections, Hillary and Donna Brazile rigging televised CNN presidential debates, selling State Department influence through hundreds of millions in donations to the Clinton Foundation, selling 20% of the U.S. uranium supply to the Russians in exchange for more donations to the Clintons and other officials. Compromising U.S. national security through Hillary Clinton's illegal use of a private server ripe for the hacking by the Russians and Chinese. And Hillary and her staffers bleach-bitting computer hardrives, smashing cel-phones with a hammer, and deleting 33,000 e-mails AFTER THER WERE SUBPOENAED by Congress and FBI investigators.

Or if just sticking to sex scandals, how about the liberal media give some airtime and balanced coverage to Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie, Juanita Broaddrick, and Monica Lewinsky, who were all victimized by Bill Clinton. And further victimized by Hillary Clinton, who led the charge to discredit and intimidate these women into silence. >>>THESE<<<< victimized and intimidated women the mainstream media has been ignoring for over 20 years.

And as Mark Levin said on Sean Hannity tonight, "Under oath for WHAT? What is the charge Trump is accused of?"
There is absolutely no evidence of anything, because it doesn't exist. All the testimony would be is a fishing expedition, a perjury trap, that has nothing to do with alleged Russia "collusion" (which also isn't a crime, any more than any incoming administration establishing relations with foreign governments they will be dealing with.)

It frankly pisses me off that 100% of the evidence of illegal dealings with Russia, illegal FISA surveillance, manipulating the election through abuses by public officials (Loretta Lynch, James Comey, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein and wife, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr and wife, Rudolfo Contreras, Andrew Weissman, and Robert Meuller, and not even a complete list of high-level officials) ALL lead to Hillary Clinton and the Democrats, and yet it is not even being investigated.
For the clear purpose of 1) rig the election for Hillary, and 2) cripple or depose Trump's presidency.

But what one pornstar of questionable integrity alleges about Trump is so much more important than the Democrat/Left weaponizing government against its citizens and staging a political coup through public officials against an elected president. Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.

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#1225342 - Thu Apr 05 2018 10:31 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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Actually it's more than just one woman WB and Trump has far more problems than just them. If it's any consolation I don't think even Trump would deserve being impeached for lying under oath about having consensual sex. I say that knowing the hypocrisy on your side would never hold Trump to the same standard as Clinton.

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#1225351 - Fri Apr 06 2018 06:54 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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From the No Moore GOP Roy Moore topic about 2 months ago:

 Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy
 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man


1 Kristen Anderson ("early 1980's")
2 Mariah Billado (1997)
3 Lisa Boyne (1996)
4 Rachel Crooks (2005)
5 Tasha Dixon (2001)
6 Jessica Drake (2006) - Adult film star!
7 Jill Harth (1992-1993) -Vendetta and lawsuit with Trump in other business
8 Cathy Heller (1997)
9 Samantha Holvey (2006)
10 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
11 Jessica Leeds (1980's)
12 Melinda McGillivray (2003)
13 Cassandra Searles (2013)
14 Natasha Stonyoff (2005) -PEOPLE magazine reporter!
15 Bridget Sullivan (2000)
16 Temple Taggart (1997)
17 Ivana Trump (1989 - The point reading I >>>KNEW<<< I was being hustled!)
18 Karena Virginia (1998)
19 Summer Zerves (2007)


Okay, some of the allegations are more recent than I recalled previously. But most go back 20 years or more. There are only 5 that don't pre-date the Access Hollywood bus video. All are years before the period Trump became a presidential candidate.

But
1) Many of these women clearly have a political agenda, and clearly state their opposition to Donald Trump as president, and therefore have a clear agenda to make allegations to undermine him as president. I would want to see a background for each of these women's political affiliations, and who they voted for, and if they supported/openly advocated Hillary Clinton and other Democrats. That is the case of many of Roy Moore's accusers as well.

2) While I don't dismiss the more serious accusations of Trump groping and allegedly forcing himself on a few of these women, by their accounts, many of these seem straining to allege anything sexually illicit. Some of the Miss USA contestants say he walked through the dressing room while they were changing. Even if true, that is hardly sexual assault.
Including IVANA TRUMP as an "accuser" is outrageous. She said what she did during a bitter divorce where he'd left her for Marla Maples, and she briefly made some accusations she retracted almost 30 years ago. Saying "I >>>FELT<<< raped" emotionally is much different than saying she was physically raped by Trump. There is clearly a vindictive agenda on the part of the Atlantic in their including this in the article. It is billed as "19 accusers" which sounds persuasive until you read through and see how silly some of the alleged "sexual accusations" are. Trump walked through a dressing room, WOW!
One is a pornstar/porn director who probably is aligned with the Hollywood liberal elite, and has no credibility from the outset. Likewise, the PEOPLE magazine reporter, who apparently from her remarks has accused many others of sexually inappropriate behavior and/or assault.
Another sued Trump over a real estate business deal and likewise has every motive to slime him.
Some of the others just say Trump leaned in for a kiss, and that is open to interpretation. I have French and Brazilian female friends who do the kiss-on-the-cheek thing at parties, and beautiful as they are, I'm frankly not comfortable kissing a girl like that who's not my girlfriend. And 20 years later, they could spin it as something it was not. It's laughable to me that Miss America contestants complain about Trump "looking at us like we were just meat". Do these girls understand what a beauty contest is?!? You walk out on stage and spin around for the judges in a dress or a bikini. I fail to see from their own account what Trump did wrong.

Of Trump's 19 "accusers" (18 actually because Ivana never accused him in 2016) maybe 15 if you eliminate the "he walked through the dressing room" accounts, maybe down to 10 or less if you eliminate the "he looked at me like I was meat" or "he kissed me at a crowded social event" type accusations. And then you're left with a few that look on the surface like actual accusations of something truly inappropriate if Trump actually did it.

But then you get into Democrat political affiliations of the accusers, other assorted personal/professional vendettas against Trump as possible motivation, and actual witnesses to what objectively happened.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1225352 - Fri Apr 06 2018 07:01 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Wonder Boy
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As compared to...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Broaddrick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troopergate_(Bill_Clinton)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton%E2%80%93Lewinsky_scandal

 Quote:
Two months after the Senate failed to convict him, President Clinton was held in civil contempt of court by Judge Susan Webber Wright for giving misleading testimony regarding his sexual relationship with Lewinsky, and was also fined $90,000 by Wright.[2][3] Clinton declined to appeal the civil contempt of court ruling, citing financial problems,[2] but still maintained that his testimony complied with Wright's earlier definition of sexual relations.[2] In 2001, his license to practice law was suspended in Arkansas for five years and later by the United States Supreme Court.[4]



...the documented, proven, fined, impeached, censured, disbarred facts in comparable allegations regarding Bill Clinton.


  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1225356 - Fri Apr 06 2018 08:54 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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Do you like that Trump has this built in deal where his lawyer just pays out hush money to people he fucked and claims it's done without his knowledge WB?

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#1225357 - Fri Apr 06 2018 09:15 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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I believe the exact term was non-disclosure agreement, and they are not unheard of in the business world.

Particularly among high-profile wealthy people, who are targets for all kinds of allegations and shakedowns.

  • from Do Racists have lower IQ's...

    Liberals who bemoan discrimination, intolerance, restraint of Constitutional freedoms, and promotion of hatred toward various abberant minorities, have absolutely no problem with discriminating against, being intolerant of, restricting Constitutional freedoms of, and directing hate-filled scapegoat rhetoric against conservatives.

    EXACTLY what they accuse Republicans/conservatives of doing, is EXACTLY what liberals/Democrats do themselves, to those who oppose their beliefs.

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#1225359 - Fri Apr 06 2018 09:33 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
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Committing adultery and trying to cover it up isn't really applicable in that way. And imagine that Trump isn't lying. He's keeping a lawyer that has made him look like a lying cheating shit bag. Seems like he likes the job Cohen did for him.

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#1225360 - Fri Apr 06 2018 09:50 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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Your hypocrisy is on full display, M E M.

Again, you NEVER held Democrats to the same standard you hold Donald Trump to.
And again, there is far more evidence against Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy, JFK, RFK, LBJ and many other Democrats than there is against Trump, in a still unproven allegation.

Why don't you just admit that the true purpose of the Democrat/MediaMatters/Left's sexual allegations against Trump is to depose a Republican president by whatever contrivance you can toss out there?

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#1225362 - Fri Apr 06 2018 10:13 PM Re: Stormy weather [Re: Wonder Boy]
Matter-eater Man
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We've discussed Clinton for over 2 decades. You've made it clear that you're the hypocrite. Note not one negative comment for Trump from you. You only have them for the other side.

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