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#1226774 - Sat Sep 15 2018 10:23 AM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
Well despite what you claim and accuse, I love America. I respect McCain's sacrifice and service to this country.




Sorry I didn't get back to you on this right away. I hope over the years I've made it clear that despite how we disagree, M E M, I still like you and enjoy discussions with you.

I don't think you are unpatriotic, I think you are firmly Democrat, and your unyeilding loyalty to the Democrats makes you unwilling to see or acknowledge the hate, Cultural Marxist ideology and Machevellian tactics of your own party. I think you are in denial about what the Democrats are truly doing, and choose not to see it. And I think you are too intelligent and politically informed to not see their clear deception and Cultural Marxism, unless out of loyalty to other aspects of the Democrat Party, you just simply choose not to look at it.

More directly, I believe you love America, and are not treasonous, M E M.
But your party is.
And by continuing to give them your loyalty, you are unwittingly helping them destroy our country. They undermine our border security, overwhelm us with immigration (both legal and illegal) doing long term damage to our national identity just so they can win elections in the short term with a new permanent Democrat majority, while destroying the country in the long term. They have destroyed our military that would have remained technologically superior forever if not for Obama's sequestrations. They are stoking racial division at every turn, splintering the nation for their own political gain (again, while destroying national unity, just for their short-term gain). Doubling the debt in 8 years. And until Trump, driving manufacturing and jobs overseas, because an unemployed American population dependent on government assistance is a reliable Democrat voter base. Trump has reversed that.

And I quickly add, the globalists and those just enriching themselves on globalist/corporate money infect both Democrats and Republicans in Washington. And the establishment Republicans are only slightly better, if at all, than the Democrats on many of these issues.

And then out of nowhere comes Donald Trump to throw a wrench in this and (i can't resist) monkey with this, to try and restore Constitutional freedoms and break up the two-headed globalist/corporate bipartisan monster that is destroying the country.

My hope is in Trump and in the Tea-Party-wing of the legislative branches, and in restoration of the Supreme Court and lower courts to a rule-of-law branch instead of a liberal-activist branch.

As I've said before, Trump is in truth not Democrat or Republican, he has in fact been both. Trump is essentially an independent reformer who was smart enough to run on the Republican ticket to win. And is pursuing common-sense pragmatic policy to reform what is destroying us from the decades-long corruption on both sides. And Trump has, quite frankly, far exceeded my wildest expectations of what he could do as president, despite the long knives for him at every turn from both sides of the political aisle.

Why you can't see that, from as closely as you follow politics, M E M, is a complete mystery to me. Even if you are completely relying on MediaMatters and the maistream liberal media for your facts, you should be able to see their version of the facts is a false narrative that has giant holes punched through it every day. Almost every day things are alleged by Trump in the media, and a day or two later, the media's account turns out to be completely false. As one example, Sen. Diane Feinstein alleged yesterday on the last day of Kavenaugh confirmation hearings that he has a history of allegations of sexual abuse going back to when he was a student. By the end of the day, 64 women, including one of his alleged accusers, voiced ssupport of Kavanaugh and debunked the story as completely false. Every network on a regular basis has been exposed repeatedly jumping the gun with allegations against Trump, and been forced to retract or at least ignore it. Many reporters and producers have been fired. An honest person would have to acknowledge that they are out to get Trump, and gotten it wrong almost every time. And that despite the media's unwillingness to report it, Trump has quantifiably better performance than any president since at least 2000, and has more accomplishments than any president since Reagan, or possibly FDR.

But hey, believe what you want, it won't change what Trump is achieving every day.





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#1226775 - Sat Sep 15 2018 10:55 AM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Wonder Boy]
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And on Obama crippling the U.S. military and destroying its technological superiority, as has been reported recently, that the U.S. military has lost that technological edge over Russiaa and China...

...that was certainly reported by conservative media as Barack Obama's STATED PLAN TO JEOPARDIZE U.S. MILITARY SUPERIORITY in Obama's own quoted comments in 2008, back when Obama was just a presidential candidate. If the Obama-Newspeak mainstream media had bothered to report it.

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#1226776 - Sat Sep 15 2018 11:25 AM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Wonder Boy]
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So does it puzzle you that Russia helped Trump win? As for your previous post, I honestly think a lot of it applies to you actually. McCain actually put country before party. I didn't expect much in this thread but I think in time more of his party will appreciate him after Trump goes down.

Fair play!

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#1228949 - Sat Jun 01 2019 06:02 AM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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Still waiting for that to happen, M E M. Trump on any given day is usually 2 points higher in the polls than either Obama or Bill Clinton.
https://saraacarter.com/rasmussen-poll-president-trump-approval-rating-at-52/
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-08/trump-approval-rating-4-higher-obama-far-presidency
At least 9 times in the last year reaching over 50%. As high as 53%.


It puzzles me that Russia wanted Trump to win, when they had to know Hillary Clinton would have been a far weaker leader, that would far more enable Russian aggression worldwide. Whereas Trump is pushing back harder against Russia than any president has in 40 years.



I was a bit amused by this...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/navy-uss-mccain/index.html
Both the situation itself, and the way the liberal media jumped all over it as another way to attack Trump.

McCain is the guy who Trump campaigned for, at McCain's request, and then with the Obamacare vote McCain hid his intentions and snuck in at the last minute and , without telling anyone in advance, voted against repealing Obamacare to spite and undermine Trump. By those actions and others, McCain is not what I call an honorable and ethical guy. But there were actions of his I supported, such as the troop surge in 2008-2009.



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#1228953 - Sun Jun 02 2019 07:16 PM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Wonder Boy]
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I really don't believe McCain voted against the Obamacare repeal just out of spite. If it had passed it would have been a mess for your party. All these years and still no plan for an actual replacement. It's worth noting that you're attacking somebody that's been dead for a while on a day where the story broke out that the WH tried having the ship with McCain's name on it kept out of President bone spurs sight. That is petty in my book.

Fair play!

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#1228957 - Mon Jun 03 2019 03:17 AM Re: RIP John McCain [Re: Matter-eater Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I really don't believe McCain voted against the Obamacare repeal just out of spite. If it had passed it would have been a mess for your party. All these years and still no plan for an actual replacement. It's worth noting that you're attacking somebody that's been dead for a while on a day where the story broke out that the WH tried having the ship with McCain's name on it kept out of President bone spurs sight. That is petty in my book.



I've said good and bad things about McCain. Toward the end, McCain was a RINO and a thorn in the side of his own party. After 2000, the only action I can think of that I unwaveringly supported of McCain's was the troop surge in Iraq (2008-2009).

McCain shot himself in the foot in the 2008 campaign.

First he voted for the 700 billion TARP bailout, that he should have opposed, and delayed the vote a few days, holding out for a smaller and less wasteful package. Two years after TARP, most of its funds were still sitting in accounts undisbursed. When McCain voted for that extravagant waste, just as Obama and the Dems did, there was nothing to separate him from Obama.

Second, McCain refused to attack Obama's cultural marxist radical history, or the radical things Obama said during the campaign.
Like "Under my plan of a cap and trade system, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket."
Or how Obama planned to: "Jeopardize U.S. military technogical superiority." (And he did.)
Or how anyone who didn't support Obama was "clinging to their antipahty toward people different than themselves, clinging to their guns and religion." Interestign how Puerto Ricaans who voted in the primary for Hillary Clinton weren't portrayed as racists, but whites in West Virginia and Pennsylvania were!
Or: "Just a few days away from fundamental transformation of America."
Or: "We need a civilian armed force just as strong as our military."
Among other cultural marxist radical ideas, from the clear template of his Cultural Marxism (Obama Sr., Bill Ayers), Liberation theology (Rev. Jeremiah Wright) and Anti-Colonialism (Rashid Khalidi, Obama Sr.), and Alinsky Rules For Radicals indoctrinated beliefs.


All this was RIGHT THERE for McCain to expose, and politically destroy the soft moderate image Obama and the complicit media had created for him to get him through the 2008 campaign.
McCain didn't.
And by not doing it, he not only lost the election, but also unleashed Obama and his authoritarian Bolshevik cut-throats on the nation.
Weaponizing the IRS on his conservative opposition.
Using the ATF to run guns to Mexican cartels, that got a border guard killed, along eith many Mexicans. Originally a plot to blame gun retailerss, until Obama/ATF's fingerprints on it prevented the planned crac=kdown on the gun industry.
And most importantly, using FBI/DOJ/NSA surveillance to do opposition research on the Trump campaign, unmasking that data to sabotage Trump's candidacy. And failing that, to frame Trump and his aides with crimes to cripple and stall his presidency. A far greater over-reach than even Watergate. Attempting to overthrow an elected AARepublican administration.


And even more Obaama-orchestrated chaos worldwide.

Collapse of U.S. power in the middle east, by:
1) supporting the Arab Spring that overthrew Mubarek in Egypt and replaced him with a muslim Brotherhood government as radical as the Iranian government, only dislodged because of an internal coup by the Egyptian military. Cerainly not because of Obama.
2) Pulling all troops, including U.S. intelligence, out of Iraq in Dec 2011, de-stabilizing the coalition government and trust betweent he Kurds, Shias and Sunnis that had built until then. Until Obama destroyed it. The Shias with no U.S. presence removed all Sunnis from political and military positions of power, and attacked them. Directly leading them to align with the most radica Sunni force in the region, ISIS, and a blitzkreig that took haalf of Iraq and Syria and led to the deaths of tens of thousands of slaughtered civilians.
3) Obama's unilateral choice to invade Libya and kill Khadaffi (who had become a U.s. ally and informat in recent years) with no congressional authorization. Then adter Libya was destroyed and de-stabilized, Obama would not give the new Libyaan government any of the aid they reqquested to stabilize their country. Causing it to become a hotbed of ISIS and Al Qaida terrorism.
4) likewise Obama's weirdd mixture of threats and "red lines" followed by inaction in Syria. And all four of these causing
5) a massive exodus of millions of muslim refugees to Western nations in Europe, Canada and the U.S. and elsewhere, that are de-stabilizing western nations with immigrants who will never assimilate.

McCain's unwillingness to expose Obama's radicalism is what allowed all that to happen. Plus ISIS spreading to 40 nations worldwide.

Plus Obamacare raammed down the throats of an unwilling America, 53% of whom opposed it in poll after poll, even a year after Obamacare's passage (by twisting the rules at every turn, and using every deception, "relying on the stupidity of the American voter" to quote Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber.)
Obamacare has cost trillions more than was promised it would cost, is only in effect for a very small group (muostly those whomalready have cancer or some other major illness), and has cost tens of millions of others their good and working healthcare insurance plans, and forced them to pay roughly double the premiums for healthcare that is not as good. But fortunately, this orchestrated failure was not allowed by a President Hillary Clinton to usher in an even more wasteful and destructive state-run single payer system.

Likewise Obama's DACA amnesty for children of illegals, that set in motion the massive surge of illegals we're experiencing now. Aided by Democrat obstruction of Trump's every presidential action to repel and contain it.

No pushback by Obama at Iran building nukes. Giving them every concession in the Iran nuclear deal (and then hiding the deal from Congress, and deceiving the American public about the jaw droppingly weak concessions, until the deal was in effect.)

Obama's "strategic patience" with North Korea and China that has emboldened their aggression, and building military forces and islands in the South China sea.

One could mistake these for blunders and failures, if one did not understand the insideous ideology of Obama and his inner circle. Borrowing from Dinesh D'Souza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAjGxvCc3qE


John McCain's half-baked unwillingness to fight and simply expose the true facts in the 2008 campaign is what allowed Obama and his Bolsheviks to be elected, and allowed all this to happen.

So yeah, I blame McCain, and it isn't nearly enough to say this.

And likewise, McCain did hide his true intent with the Obamacare repeal, and did come in at the last minute and cast his vote against Obamacare's repeal. In doing so McCain undermined Trump, undermined the Republican party, and undermined every Republican who voted for its repeal.




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