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#230772 - Wed Oct 15 2003 06:25 AM Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
Darknight613
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According to this study, yes.

http://www.clubs.psu.edu/sayar/riqs.htm

WHY DO RACISTS HAVE LOW IQs?

Studies going back over 50 years have repeatedly arrived at the same conclusion -- racists have lower IQs than non-racists. The average intelligence quotient (IQ) of all members of the human race is 100 on the Stanford-Binet scale, as illustrated in the bell curves in the figure below. The average IQ of racists is up to 4 IQ points less than this (Montagu 1952 & 1988, Allport 1946, Frenkel-Brunswick and Sanford 1945). The reasons this is true are not entirely clear. Does racism attract the unintelligent or do the unintelligent default into racist mentalities? An exploration of this phenomenon can be most informative.

Since the average IQ of a racist is less than the average, racists have two-digit IQs, while normal people have three-digit IQs, on the average. This applies to Nazi skinheads, American Nazis, the oxymoronic Aryan supremacists, Christian Identity fanatics, anti-semites, non-denominational bigots, and other such social rejects. The figure above is based on a standard deviation of 10, and is normalized for matching populations.

Many studies have explored the psychology of racism and the familial and social backgrounds of racists. Some interesting generalities can be extracted from these studies, including the fact that racists tend to be conservatives, conformists, Republicans, and hypochondriacs. The high incidence of conservatism, conformism, and Republicanism are all related phenomena. That is, one would expect a conformist to be a conservative, and a conservative to be a Republican, and a Republican to be a conformist, etc. But, why would they tend to be hypochondriacs? Perhaps they blame their body parts for imaginary illnesses in the same way they blame parts of society for imaginary social illnesses.

The arguments of racism have been demonstrated time and again to be illogical and irrational. For example, racists claim that so-called white people are "superior" to so-called black people. Ignoring for the moment the inability of science to draw a sharp line between those who are subjectively considered to be white and those who are subjectively considered to be black, lets consider the claims of superiority by racist supremacists.

As we look around us in America today we see a country full of diversity in which American blacks and other citizens of non-European descent excel in all the arts and sciences, in all aspects of business, in all political arenas, and in all athletics and other social activities. From our military commanders, to our religious and political leaders, to our star athletes both Olympic and professional, to our fastest-growing independent businesses, and in all genres of the entertainments fields -- art, music, acting, directing, film-making, etc. -- we witness a growing disproportionate dominance of non-whites, and this in spite of centuries of oppression and the continued denial of equal opportunities. Their successes are undeniable and ubiquitous, and yet the racists of our times act as if they are completely blind to this manifest proof that superiority of whites is a dying mirage.

Racists wear horse's blinders at the sight of the media heroes of our age -- Muhammed Ali, Martin Luther King, Michael Jordan, Condoleeza Rice, the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Colin Powell, Janet and LaToya Jackson, Sidney Poiter and Samuel Jackson, Sammy Sosa, Michael Johnson, the list goes on endlessly. They are deaf to the sound of world records regularly being shattered. They are dumb in their speech when asked to explain such obvious contradictions. Are racists deaf, dumb, and blind, or are they simply of such limited intelligence that they cannot recognize the truth when it is placed in bright lights before them?

Let's consider some examples of what passes for intelligence in the sub-society of what is truly an oxymoron, Aryan supremacy. Even the word "Aryan" is itself a mockery of the truth. The Aryan race doesn't exist, and has never existed. It is a myth invented by the Nazis to promote politically expedient propaganda. Hitler himself admitted that he knew there never were any Aryans, and that the notion merely served Nazi purposes, no more. All Aryan supremacists stand naked in the light of truth, but are unable to comprehend the fact that they have no clothes. Is it due to mentally deficiency, or are they really aware of this false myth? It's hard to say for sure, but their limited intelligence is certainly a factor in their confusion.

In America's war against terrorism, we should not forget about the domestic terrorists that have sprouted in our own backyard. Nazis, skinheads, and other bigots are anti-American by their very nature. If America is a nation of all races, religions, and cultures, then the enemies of any of those races, religions, and cultures are enemies of America. The attempts on the part of Nazi skinheads and the KKK to intimidate or encourage acts of violence against innocent people because of their race or creed is terrorism by definition. Once al Qaeda has been shut down, it would be prudent to focus America's attention on cleaning up all the nests of racist extremists that are festering inside our own borders. They are all just terrorists waiting to commit an act against Americans.

Some of the more radical anti-racist groups say that the only way to change a racist's mind is with a shotgun blast to the head. We at SAYAR disagree that violence is a proper response to what is essentially a mental disease. We believe that education is the key to erasing racism, and that this could be accomplished within the space of a single generation if we simply show children the light of truth, and dispel the darkness of ignorance.

(To be contiued)


The link has some graphs and some explanations of what those graphs represent.

Thoughts?

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#230773 - Wed Oct 15 2003 02:09 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
whomod
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...........

All I can say is brace yourself.

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#230774 - Wed Oct 15 2003 02:23 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
JQ
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I guess it depends on what kind of racists, and how you define a "racist." This study only covers white racists. I think that smarter people don't make as many generalizations as less intelligent peopke do, but this study is just a generalization.
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#230775 - Wed Oct 15 2003 04:03 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
Stupid Doog
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I consider anybody who pre-judges an individual because of skin color, religion, and/or country-of-origin an idiot.
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#230776 - Wed Oct 15 2003 05:01 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
JQ
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I blame the Germans...
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#230777 - Wed Oct 15 2003 08:53 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
the G-man
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History has had its share of intelligent, but evil, people who were racists.

For example, I would hazard a guess that certain high ranking Nazis (see, eg, Mengele) probably had pretty high IQs.

I wonder if this study isn't just one more well-intentioned, but ultimately dangerous, effort to turn every evil thought, belief or act into a genetic or mental problem.

Pretty soon, some KKK member will blow up a bus full of black kids and claim "Ah caint help it, I was BORND this way."

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#230778 - Thu Oct 16 2003 12:55 AM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
whomod
Offline some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?

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Man!

Am I the only one who caught this??

quote:
Some interesting generalities can be extracted from these studies, including the fact that racists tend to be conservatives, conformists, Republicans, and hypochondriacs. The high incidence of conservatism, conformism, and Republicanism are all related phenomena. That is, one would expect a conformist to be a conservative, and a conservative to be a Republican, and a Republican to be a conformist, etc. But, why would they tend to be hypochondriacs? Perhaps they blame their body parts for imaginary illnesses in the same way they blame parts of society for imaginary social illnesses.

It actually reminded me of two books both published in the 50's.

quote:
A man named Milton Mayer, (a Jew) wrote a book in 1955 called "They Thought They Were Free" which explains exactly how certain people can be aroused to a fever pitch with just the right techniques.

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - making constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, etc. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Government tends to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to the government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Government tends to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free _expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - The police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-35
by Milton Sanford Mayer




and two, The Authoritarian Personality.

quote:
In 1950 four social scientists published a book, The Authoritarian Personality, which studied the potentially fascistic individual, i.e., “one whose structure is such as to render him particularly susceptible to anti-democratic propaganda.” The scientists discovered that authoritarian personalities not only show “extreme susceptibility to fascist propaganda,” but also “have a great deal in common.” The manifestations of this anti-democratic syndrome include:
(1) Conventionalism (“rigid adherence to conventional, middle-class values”);

(2) Authoritarian submission (“submissive, uncritical attitude toward idealized moral authorities of the ingroup”);

(3) Authoritarian aggression (“tendency to be on the lookout for, and to condemn, reject, and punish people who violate conventional values”);

(4) Anti-intraception (“opposition to the subjective, the imaginative, the tender-minded”);

(5) Superstition and stereotypy (“disposition to think in rigid categories”);

(6) Power and toughness (“exaggerated assertion of strength and toughness”);

(7) Destructiveness and cynicism (“generalized hostility; vilification of the human”);

(8) Projectivity (“disposition to believe that wild and dangerous things go on in the world”); and

(9) Sex (“exaggerated concern with sexual goings-on”).

You don’t have to be Einstein to realize that the right-wing mentality and the authoritarian personality are intertwined, or that authoritarian personalities tend to become right-wingers, including fascists and fascist supporters. In their political positioning, writings, speeches, and activities, right-wingers typically display an authoritarian personality’s politics. Smugness; no sympathy for the poor or ghettoized; no compassion for the oppressed or underprivileged; draconian severity toward “criminals”; fondness for capital punishment; slavish deference to police lawlessness; a Social-Darwinist, survival of the fittest ethos; a bottom-line mentality; kowtowing to corporate wealth; enthusiastic support for the military-industrial complex; chauvinistic patriotism; a religious fundamentalism which emphasizes stern Old Testament harshness and consigns most of humanity to eternal punishment inflicted by a wrathful deity; hostility to homosexuals and gay rights; a pathological obsession with homosexual sex; these are elements of an illiberal mindset estranged from concern for liberty, freedom, and justice.


http://www.law.uga.edu/academics/profiles/dwilkes_more/33devolving.html


As they say, the more things change.....

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#230779 - Wed Oct 22 2003 01:28 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
Wonder Boy
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I wonder what psychological illness would describe liberal schmucks hell-bent on attempting to discredit and insult conservatives, using pseudo-scientific language.

It amazes me how liberals see conservativism as a mental disease, while they label all the liberal decadence they promote as a something normal and positive.

Liberal decadence plagues our society, and warps standards to create sympathy for homosexuality, drug addiction and violent criminals, alienated teenagers who shoot up their high schools, rude and vulgar pop culture, and anything-goes sex (as if sex between a man and a woman were not enough for anyone) and rationalizes these actions with the same pseudo-science they use to bash conservatives.

While racism is common among the uneducated, there are certainly many highly educated racists as well.
One that comes to mind is William Shockley, who won the Nobel Prize in physics, who was a key part of developing the transistor circuit that replaced vaccuum tubes in electronic technology during the 1950's, later in his life put forth a theory that blacks are genetically inferior to whites and other races.

But for politically correct reasons, Shockley's theories are shunned by the global science community. Not because his theories are disproven, but that for reasons of controversy, they are pejudicially not even considered. A similar theory came out in a book titled The Bell Curve in the early 1990's. (The book also says that whites/Europeans are inferior in intelligence to Asians. )

So while I think that all races are at more or less the same intelligence level, and that there are geniuses of every race, I likewise feel saying racists are less intelligent is just another way to slander a group of people whose ideas you don't like. Something liberals are very good at.

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#230780 - Wed Oct 22 2003 04:18 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
JQ
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I agree with your last paragraph, Dave.
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#230781 - Wed Oct 22 2003 04:35 PM Re: Do racists have lower IQs than non-racists?
whomod
Offline some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?

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I once knew a girl who graduated University and yet was completely oblivious as to what the State of The Union Adress was.

I found this out around the time the Monica Lewinsky story broke. The SOTU Adress as you recall was around a week afterwards. I was watching the adress and she passed by and inquired if that was the Clinton trial. :lol:

I explained what it was and she was still bewildered and clueless.

The point i'm trying to make is that you don't have to be stupid overall to be stupid about certain things.

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