Lost season 2

The fun begins tomorrow at eight.

Special: Destination Lost
Airdate: September 21, 2005 at 8 p.m.

09/08 - ABC once again invites new and avid "Lost" viewers to take another look at one of the most talked about shows. "Destination Lost" will explore the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating - in anticipation of the series' second season premiere. From the back stories of some of the most interesting characters on television to the mysteries of the island, "Destination Lost" will provide an insightful glimpse into the lives of some of the survivors of the doomed Oceanic Airlines flight 815. Narrated in a linear fashion and culminating from the pieces of the back stories told over multiple episodes in the series, "Destination Lost" focuses on the flashbacks of a core of characters -- illustrating who they were and what they were doing before the crash, and how the island has changed their lives, for better or worse. In addition, the island itself will be explored - culled from events that have taken place - which may reveal some of its secrets that might have been missed upon first viewing.

Episode 2.01: Man of Science, Man of Faith
Airdate: September 21, 2005

09/02 - The multiple Emmy Award-nominated "Lost" returns for a second season of action-packed mystery and adventure -- that will continue to bring out the very best and the very worst in the people who are lost. [...] In the season premiere episode, "Man of Science, Man of Faith," one of the castaways is chosen to descend into the mysterious hatch, and Shannon stumbles upon a shockingly familiar face in the jungle. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But, as they have discovered during their 40-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets. Guest starring are John Terry as Shephard, Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond, Julie Bowen as Sarah, Anson Mount as Kevin, Ivana Michele Smith as N.D. survivor, Katie Doyle as EMT, Julius Ledda as EMT no. 2, Masayo Ford as nurse, David Ely as intern and Larry Wiss as anesthesiologist.

Episode 2.09: What Kate Did

Kate's original crime that started her life on the run is revealed. Meanwhile, the survivors lay one of their own to rest, Kate sleeplessly watches over a feverish Sawyer, and Mr. Eko has a surprise for Locke regarding the hatch.

so after the great episode last week, we get a flashback of a character I lost (heh) interest in halfway through last season.

This will also be the last new episode until January 11th.

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Episode 2.09: What Kate Did

Kate's original crime that started her life on the run is revealed. Meanwhile, the survivors lay one of their own to rest, Kate sleeplessly watches over a feverish Sawyer, and Mr. Eko has a surprise for Locke regarding the hatch.

so after the great episode last week, we get a flashback of a character I lost (heh) interest in halfway through last season.

They aired it just to piss you off, Sock Boy. Didn't you read the subtitle for the episode? "Or, The Way to Piss Off Socksturbators."

jim, with a full-out rex attack!

i thought last nights episode was great. im really just so frickin hooked on the show.

can someone explain the horse, tho? symbolism, clearly, but im missing it.

Penis.

Horses, for women, always symbolize a penis.

There was a horse in the road when Kate and the FBI agent were in the car crash. That was when she started being a fugitive. Now everytime she sees a black horse, she thinks of that decision she made.

That it's a penis is far more interesting than your more literal interpretation.

jim jackson: penis troll.

I'll take trolling after penises than trolling after crew and knee-highs while momma's fixing dinner upstairs.

great googily moogily!

so, kate's penis fixations aside, ... thats it? its just "i saw a horse when i did bad shit and now when i see another horse, i think of bad shit?"

c'mon, this is lost! its gotta mean something else.

She's a chick, they don't make sense.

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great googily moogily!

so, kate's penis fixations aside, ... thats it? its just "i saw a horse when i did bad shit and now when i see another horse, i think of bad shit?"

c'mon, this is lost! its gotta mean something else.

Of course. Which is why I said that Rex's interpretation was far too literal to be right.

or your just being a troll.

don't horses also represent a sense of freedom?
each time it appeared it freed her, first by causing the car to swerve and second by forcing her to confront her memories and feelings.

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or your just being a troll.

Sshhhh, you're making too much noise, Mama can't hear her soaps.

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don't horses also represent a sense of freedom?
each time it appeared it freed her, first by causing the car to swerve and second by forcing her to confront her memories and feelings.

P-E-N-I-S

so am i the only one who noticed the difference in Dr. whatever's tie in the film last night

The dude on the film?

By that point, the show was nearly over and I had lost interest.

I didn't notice the difference in the tie. Interesting. The whole Dharma video is so mysterious that I'm very intrigued to see where it goes.

I still think that the secret behind the show is that the castaways are unbenownst-to-themselves contestants on a sadistic Japanese game show...

'Lost' stars found in DWI

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"Lost" stars Michelle Rodriguez and Cynthia Watros were arrested in Hawaii for allegedly driving under the influence of alcohol, People magazine reported yesterday.
Rodriguez, 27, who plays Ana Lucia on the hit ABC show, and Watros, 37, who plays Libby, were arrested Wednesday night on the island of Oahu, where the series is filming its second season, People said on its Web site.

"They were arrested just before midnight without incident, and both women were driving their own vehicles," Capt. Frank Fujii of the Honolulu Police Department said.

No other details of the arrest were available. Reps for both actresses and the show had no comment.

Someone sure is quick in finding traffic-related news.

Gotta keep up with the latest advancements in the field.

Those tail-section guys giving the rest of the cast a bad name...

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can someone explain the horse, tho? symbolism, clearly, but im missing it.

This reminded me when Sawyer was being picked on by a pig in one episode. In that episode we find out that Sawyer kills somebody only to discover the guy wasn't who Sawyer thought he was. During the ep, Sawyer plans on killing this pig. Can't remember everything the pig did, but at one point it pissed on only things that belonged to Sawyer. I had the impression that the pig represented the guy Sawyer killed, coming back from the grave so to speak. With Kate we have a horse & Sawyer seemingly posessed by Kate's father in a similar situation.

Hey guys just wanted to let you know that my boyfriend has a couple of original character sketches drawn by Hurley & Sawyer (the actors from the series) Proceeds will go to the Red Ribbon Family Fund in LaCrosse WI. E-bay

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lost

funny. and clever. and weird al is in there, so its great by default.

This is from TV guide, its kinda spoilerish:

Two hours of lost today, first another recap show at eight:

Special Recap: Lost: Revelations
Airdate: January 11, 2006 at 8 p.m.

Discover the complete story of the grueling first 48 days on the island for the fuselage survivors and tailies after the crash of Oceanic flight 815. Since the beginning, "Lost" has mystified and intrigued viewers with its interesting characters and unique style of storytelling. Season One dealt with the fuselage survivors, the hatch and a failed attempt to get off the island. Season Two continues these stories and also introduces viewers to the survivors of the tail section. "Lost: Revelation" puts these two seasons together in a linear fashion that provides an illuminating view on one compelling story. See the sequence of the aftermath of the failed raft attempt, the opening of the hatch, how the tail section and fuselage survivors lived separately and the unwitting intersections of their lives, and how both groups ultimately collided in one catastrophic moment. "Lost: Revelation" offers new and avid viewers a fresh perspective, comprehensive and enlightening, in one of television's most intriguing series.

Then a new episode at 9:

Mr. Eko interrogates Charlie about the Virgin Mary statue, Claire begins to lose faith in Charlie when she discovers his secret, and Jack is an interested observer when Kate gives the recovering Sawyer a much-needed haircut.

third commercial break at 8:19.

thats frickin insane.

not bad. not great, but not bad. i need a few more episodes to get me back into it.

It was one of those episodes that were too unbelievable. The whole Eko thing with the drugs ruined it for me. Too many coincidences. The black mist-monster-security system thing was also a let down.

The black mist monster was odd. The FX could have been better & I'm wondering if that was intentional. (something manufactured not supernatural)

It looks like Eko is going to be taking over the spiritual end of things on the island.

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http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lost

funny. and clever. and weird al is in there, so its great by default.

ok, i tivo'd this episode in hidef and just watched the cloud vs. eko part in slow-motion. in regular speed, you could see flashes of what looked like lightning in the dark cloud.

however, on replay, it was a bunch of flashes of eko's life.

they showed an image of his brother at current and and younger, an image of himself as a child, an image of the man he shot, a few other things i couldn't really tell but looked like other women (other villagers?), and then a crucifix at the end.

so...

[theory time]

perhaps, the cloud is just the person's soul made tangible.

eko faced his demons in real life, and thats why he wasn't afraid of the cloud, at all.

john locke faced most of his demons and has since come to embrace the island and what it has brought, and thats why he wasn't afraid of the cloud/monster when they faced off either time, last season.

characters like charlie, however, are still terrified of themselves, and thus have nothing but fear for the cloud.

... so, perhaps, the island is like a pergatory of sorts, forcing you to face what you are.[/theory time]

That would be really, really gay.

From the very beginning everyone on the show has said that there is an explaination for everything that happens on the island. Everything can happen in reality. The whole black cloud thing makes this hard to believe. I can put up with all the coincidneces, but not the really unbelievable stuff.

Episode 2.11: The Hunting Party
Airdate: January 18, 2006

Jack, Locke and Sawyer pursue a determined Michael after he heads into the jungle toward the dreaded "Others" in search of Walt. Meanwhile, Sun has a surprising reaction to Jin's desire to join the search party, and Hurley and Charlie commiserate over the age-old conundrum of "what women want." Monica Dean, Ronald Guttman and John Terry guest star amongst others.

this episode was much better. i dug the little showdown.

This episode was good, but didn't completely make up for last weeks.

The Jack flashbacks were good, and I loved how he said he wanted to train an army. I really want to see a big battle between the plane people and the "others".

Episode 2.12: Fire + Water
Airdate: January 25, 2006

When Charlie's vividly surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby, Aaron, is in danger, Locke suspects Charlie may be using again. Meanwhile, Sawyer encourages Hurley to act on his attraction to Libby.

i enjoyed this episode a lot more than i thought i was going to, based on the description and last week's teaser clips.

i noticed this weeks' previews said "coming up" as opposed to "coming next week"

is there another lost vacation?

Next week is the state of the union speech. ABC is showing it because you might miss it being aired ON EVERY OTHER GODDAMN STATION.

The next new episode will be on febuary 8th.

It am gonna be a good night to rent a movie.

not sure if this was posted in here somewhere, but...

http://www.oceanicflight815.com/

According to ABC's site tonight's episode is a repeat from year 1 where Hurley goes looking for Delenn in the jungle to ask her about the numbers.

Next week is new.

Michelle Rodriguez might be leaving the show

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=84963

I really hope this isn't true. She's one of my favorite characters. Losing her right now would be a huge blow to everything they've been setting up so far.

I hope it's true and that Said gets to kill her. Poetic justice. Every time I see her (when I watch with my youngest kid), I don't like her. If she's tough to work with, move on. The show just won a SAG for Best Ensemble, Drama. They don't need a fucking diva to deal with.

Seriously -- Ana-Lucia's a Grade-A bitch, and is asking for a bullet in the brainpan...

Maybe Hurley will faint from the sight of blood again and fall on top of her, crushing and asphyxiating her.

Plus she killed the aesthma chick..and the asian guy is a no show now..he's cool he was in kama sutra and kama sutra rules...

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Seriously -- Ana-Lucia's a Grade-A bitch, and is asking for a bullet in the brainpan...

yeah, but she's hot. very nice, flat stomach.

tonight's was pretty good ... basically cuz lost was back, instead of a repeat (did airing that specific episode last week have any significance?)

i thought the sawyer twist was a little obvious, in both the current time and flash back. the show was set up in such a way that i was looking for that sorta twist -- dunno if that hit the rest of you, as well.

still, all the same, it sets up so many cool angles and refreshes a lot of the grown-tired relationships.

eh, it was ok. I think the show has been weak since it came back from the break.
The same kinda thing happened on The Shield last night, which made me except something like that happening.

There were a few Easter eggs in this episode:

That waitress who waited on Sawyer and his partner was Kate's mom.

Also, note the name of the manuscript that Hurley was reading. It was called BAD TWIN and was written by Gary Troup. From Amazon.com's page on that book:

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About the Author
Bad Twin is the highly-anticipated new novel by acclaimed mystery writer Gary Troup. Bad Twin was delivered to Hyperion just days before Troup boarded Oceanic Flight 815, which was lost in flight from Sydney, Australia to Los Angeles in September 2004. He remains missing and is presumed dead.

I thought that was a cool way of tying in the book to the series' continuity.

Also, Locke was flipping through a book which had OWL CREEK BRIDGE written on the cover. This is probably a reference to Ambrose Bierce's short story, "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge," which was probably part of a collection in that book.

This story is about a soldier who is hanged at a bridge, but when he is dropped the rope breaks, and he escapes for home. After some strange things begin to happen, it is finally revealed that he was hanged after all and that the rope breaking and his escape all happened in his mind in the split second before he died, as if time was stretched out in that split second to seem like hours.

Oh, and the radio was playing selections from the Glenn Miller Orchestra, which prompts Hurley to make a joke about radio waves traveling through time. This is probably an amused nod to all the fan speculation that the Lost survivors somehow traveled back or forward through time.

did... you really notice all those things on first watch? or did you see it a few times?

my eye sight and attention span are pretty poor, so i tend to miss most everything in this show that isn't spelled out for me. however, i always talk with other people who seem to easily spot millions and millions of weird, but intriguing, little details that i can't believe the writers actually had the time to plan.

One viewing, though I taped it first so I could fast-forward through all the commercials, and I had to pause to read the text on Hurley's manuscript.

Spoilers and stuff...

TTT, I did notice the asppearance by Kate's mom (Sawyer meets EVERYONE's folks -- betcha he meets Locke's kidney-stealing pop next flashback!), but I hadn't known about that other info.

And Rob, the Sawyer bit was fairly clear, but revealing Charley as part of it was a bit of a shocker

(Oh, and Rob -- I don't find Ana that attractive -- something about a scowl that makes anything else about a woman irrelevant...)

'Lost' creator says Michelle Rodriguez's charcter won't be killed off
UPI News Service

Good. She's the hottest piece of ass on that show.

Episode 2.14: One Of Them
Airdate: February 15, 2006

When Rousseau leads Sayid to a mysterious captive in the jungle, he becomes determined to find out if he is one of the “Others.” Meanwhile, Sawyer discovers Hurley’s potentially devastating breech of the survivors’ trust and blackmails him into helping track an elusive island creature that won’t leave Sawyer alone. Guest starring are Lindsey Ginter as Sgt. Austen, Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Michael Emerson as Henry Gale, Marc Casabani as Tariq, Theo Rossi as Sgt. Buccelli, Clancy Brown as Joe Inman, Thomas Meharey as U.S. soldier no. 1 and Kamari Borden as U.S. soldier no. 2.

There is way too many characters and plots and subplots going on now. Its getting too hard to follow. I completely forgot about Claire losing her memory. They need to start wrapping up story lines while I still care about that particular storyline. (Walt)

You should have LOVED last night's episode, Rex -- it had a sock in it!

Episode 2.17: Lockdown

When the hatch suddenly takes on a life of its own, Locke is forced to enlist the help of an unlikely ally. Meanwhile, Ana Lucia, Sayid and Charlie go off into the jungle to find out the truth about Henry. Katey Sagal guest stars.

Henry is an other!

SPOILERS!

Yeah, rex got a kick outta that in chat!

Signed,

JeffLA

Your friend in truth,

Jeff "I'm a character in Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks" Glacier.

Heh

See you in the next Mortal Kombat,

Jeff Grimm

See you then,

Hasan Mandral

Not bad. Not bad at all.

So, Jack can play some cards, huh? I guess they had to give him something resembling a male trait. I've never seen one man that's more of a passive-aggressive pussy. Especially to Kate. Let it fucking go, you spoiled daddy's rich boy!

And, we got some John M. Locke. The "M" standing for, of course, "Motherfucking ass-kicker". That's his new official middle initial now. I have decided.

I'm glad that they finally tied up some more loose threads with his past. Good to see Peg Bundy again. She gets hotter with age, I swear.

So, Locke let his inner parental turmoil destroy his relationship. And, he's left alone. I'm leaning more and more towards his paralysis being some type of psychosomatic self infliction. He wasn't "free" until the island. He didn't have a purpose or destiny until then. At least, that's how I see it.

I called two things in the episode before we saw them:

1) I knew Daddy Locke wasn't dead. And, I'm certain we haven't seen the end of him.

2) I knew Sayid was going to dig that grave up. He was so set to convict Henry Gale before they left, no fucking way was my boy going to just accept the details for face value.

And finally, the GREAT MYSTERY WRITINGS! Oh brother. Now even I'm starting to get tired of this puzzle-within-a-puzzle stuff they pull, with no explanations. Wonder how many seasons it will take before they even scratch the surface of this glow-in-the-dark map. I'm throwing my money in on Season Five right now.

The Pros: Very little Anna-Luicinda (I can't stand this bitch). No standard 'worried/introspective/sad/shocked/angry' long shots of Kate (the same look for every emotion...what an actress...

). An entire episode where crazy Aussie bitch didn't get to punish Charlie for his addictions (I wish he would just punch her one good time. What a self-righteous cow). Locke flashback.

The Cons: No Sun or Jin (easily my favorite couple on that island). Very little Sayid. NO ANSWERS!

Except, of course...Henry Gale is an Other.

Or IS he?!! Stay tuned for the next episode. And the next. And the next. And the next. And the next. And the next. And the next....

The preview for next week showed Henry Gale being forced to talk about the others. He called the bearded guy a "nobody."

Good job, Jeff...

Thanks, just wish I could read it. Think Desmond made it? Hmmmm

Oh, these guys break that stuff out further.

Jeff Glacier is a no good spoiling bastard.

Pro likes to write a lot.

Lost kicked ass today.

Holy shit!
Hurley is crazy.
that blonde chick was in the looney bin with him.
This show has gotten really good again.

yep, now you have a role model...

i thought last week's episode was pretty good -- the hurley episode. nothing too spectacular though.

however, there's still a tremendous buzz over the previous weeks, with that blast door symbol thing.

this is an email (and dunno what other sources) from one of my crazy, lost-obsessed work friends:

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/2x17/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg

so... is michael the trade?

or did he just happen to be there at that time

I'm pretty sure he just happened to be there at the time... at least, that's the impression I got from the previews for next week's episode.

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next week's episode.

The next new episode will be on May 3.
Alias is returning next week with a two hour show, and the next week will be another recap episode.

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Sawyer meets EVERYONE's folks -- betcha he meets Locke's kidney-stealing pop next flashback!

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I knew Daddy Locke wasn't dead. And, I'm certain we haven't seen the end of him.

It occured to me while watching episode 17 the other day (I didn't watch them the first time around, so I had to download them all...) that Mr. Cooper (Locke's 'dad') is probably the same guy that conned Sawyer's parents all those years ago. He's about the right age and, according to that episode, has been doing this 'con' game for a very long time.

The real question, I think, is whether or not this guy is really Locke's dad or not.

Special: Lost: Reckoning

The survivors of Oceanic flight 815 have been locked in a test of faith ever since they crashed on the island. Discover how this faith has been tested for both the fuselage survivors and tailies. Are you a person of faith or science? This is the dilemma that plagues the island survivors and also defines their character. Discover how faith in the hatch led Locke on a mission to find a way inside, and how his discovery of Desmond led to his belief that punching in the numbers every 108 minutes would ensure everyone's survival. In addition, Michael's dogged mission in finding Walt, the tailies fight for survival during their first 48 days through their collision with the fuselage survivors, the uncertainty of prisoner Henry Gale's allegiances, and tensions between the survivors and "The Others" have left everyone questioning what they believe in. Additionally, the healing powers of love are explored through a timid Hurley's struggle with asking Libby out on a date, through the strong bond between Sun and Jin, and through Jack and Sawyer's mutual - yet unrequited - attractions to Kate.

...what is that? A tv listing? An episode/clip show description? Something you wrote yourself? Questions, man, questions!

clip show alert!

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...what is that? A tv listing? An episode/clip show description? Something you wrote yourself? Questions, man, questions!

Its a recap episode. We went over this earlier in the thread. Try to pay attention.

Rodriguez: Steroids To Blame For Bad Behavior

I thought she looked a little "manly."

http://www.islostarepeat.com/

Heh.

Two for the Road

Jack and Kate bring an exhausted Michael back to the camp, and with him, news about "The Others." Meanwhile, Ana Lucia attempts to get the prisoner to confess, and Hurley plans a surprise date for Libby.

holy fuck

yeah

If I didn't hate Michael before (and I did), I definitely do now...

SPOILERS!!!

So... both of the women rumored to be written off the show have been shot by Michael in an attempt to get everyone else to be as single-minded about going after Walt as he is.

Guess we won't know 'til next week whether it's Libby or Ana Lucia who bites the dust. At this point, I'm sure the producers are happier than pigs in fecal matter that everyone watching is absolutely bewildered. If I didn't know any better, I'd say all these rumors were circulated by the producers themselves to keep us all guessing.

Personally, I'd be a bit upset if Libby bites it, especially since we know next to nothing about her other than that she was in the institution with Hurley. We've had two shows on Ana Lucia. I wanna get to know Libby.

All in all, I was pissed by the end of the episode - especially, as noted above, at Michael - but I still find myself waiting on pins and needles for the next episode.

Damn them and their good story-telling ability!

Holy shit! Did NOT see that one coming.

I love Libby. I loathe Anna-Luicinda. So, if Libby dies, and Anna-Luicinda inexplicably survives a point-blank gun shot to the abdomen....I will simply quit this show.

If they're both dead, I will half-mourn, and half-rejoice.

If only Anna is dead, I will fucking SING!

"Ding-dong, the witch it dead, the witch is dead!"

Ugh! I can't stand that eyebrowless, flat-acting boring cliche'! I pray they just kill her character off....

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Holy shit! Did NOT see that one coming.

This was pretty much my reaction to the entire episode.

skipped your post chewy, just incase, so sorry if this was touched upon...

so... whats the thought here?

was michael brainwashed and "traded" to the "others' side?"

dream sequence?

some unforseen logic, where michael kills the two girls to ...free... them or something?

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So... both of the women rumored to be written off the show have been shot by Michael in an attempt to get everyone else to be as single-minded about going after Walt as he is.

That's my theory... and I think it's a damn good'n.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanso_F...Lost_Experience

Anyone else catch the commercial? I tried the number but there was nothing on the other end.

I expected both women to leave the show, ana-Lucia (who is hot) is about to serve a couple days in jail for her DUI, Liddy is scheduled to be on another show next season.

I think Michael was sent by the others to kill Ana-Lucia, maybe to get his son back or to see him or something. I doubt he wanted to start a war with the others. He never meant to shoot Liddy. That was an accident.

I greatly enjoyed Peter David's reaction to last night's episode.

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COWBOY PETE'S HOLY GOD, I DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING "LOST" COMMENTS
In "The Onion's" trade paperback collection that essentially operated as if the gag newspaper had been around for over a century, one of the most memorable articles was about the moon landing. The headline was something along the lines of "HOLY SHIT, WE LAND ON FUCKING MOON!" and the entire article was written with that same sense of over-the-top incredulity. They literally can't believe it.

In the spirit of that article...

Holy fucking shit, Michael fucking shot Ana Lucia and Libby, son of a bitch, he capped them both, and then gave himself a self-inflicted wound to cover his ass! Either he's flipped over to the Others, or he's doing whatever he can to drive his own people into war with the Others, but I'm thinking the former is the more likely. Jesus! My fucking jaw is on the fucking ground! I mean, I should have realized it since Michelle Rodriguez is doing jail time while they're filming the season ender and the producers expressed no concern over it. Now we know why: Michael FUCKING SHOT Ana-Lucia and Libby! SON OF A BITCH! SON OF A...HOLY SHIT, I did NOT see that coming.

SHIT!!!

PAD

Ana Lucia was hot, but...annoying. She will be missed only a little...

And...Do you think Locke is going to end up going to the other side?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hanso_F...Lost_Experience

Anyone else catch the commercial? I tried the number but there was nothing on the other end.

I guess the lines were jammed then. I tried it later and got a greeting "welcome to the hanso foundation" it asked if i knew my parties extension, on a hunch i pressed 815. then there was a good minute of some guy muttering in french. then a woman saying the hanso foundation was committed to unlocking human potential then i got a really long address and street (i forgot the town/state).
Then i was told to go to the main site for more info.
All in all it was kind of fun to sit through due to the mysteriousness of it.

http://www.islostarepeat.com/

ha!

It was better when I posted it.

no, mine!

Personally, I think with Michael we're looking at a hostage situation. He'll damn well do anything to get Walt back. Killing a woman he barely knows, and really doesn't like anyway, is just another stepping stone to getting Walt. And, I really think killing her was just something he had to do in order to free Henry Gale. If no one had been around, he wouldn't have had to shoot anyone. Either way, I think his "mission" was to come back and free Gale, if he wants to see Walt again...

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/

Also, go here: http://www.oceanic-air.com/

Click on the Find button where you would be booking a flight. It should bring up a schematic of the passengers seats on the plane.

Click the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42 in sequence, and check it out...

My guess is that Libby will be around at least a while longer. Anna probably is dead. Libby still hasn't had a flashback & some unresoved plot! Good show!

I was just thinking that, after Ana-Lucia got some action, she was going to be the next to die. Just like Shannon.

huh. interesting.

the otehrs also made a big fuss over whats-her-faces baby (conceived pre-island)

The Others have shown interest in Claire (namely, her baby) and Walt. Henry calls Locke "one of the good ones." When Goodwin and Ana Lucia are having their face-off, Goodwin says that Nathan "wasn't good enough. That's why he wasn't on the list."

It's pretty safe to say that the Others are somehow part of the Dharma Initiative... but what are they up to and what do the crash survivors have to do with it?

heh
The name of last weeks episode was "two for the road".

I piss on this thread....and this show.

It works on levels...

pissing?

PJP peeing or the show title?

I'd say you owe me a beer but I don't want your parents buying me beer.

? (Yes, thats the real name of this episode)

Mr. Eko enlists Locke to help find a secret location he believes houses answers to the island's mysteries. Meanwhile, Jack and the other survivors struggle to cope with the horrific situation in the hatch. Guest starring are Adetokumboh McCormack as Yemi, Peter Lavin as Caldwell, Oliver Muirhead as monsignor, Melissa Bickerton as Joyce, Felix Williamson as Dr. Ian McVay, Nick Jameson as Richard Malkin and Brooke Mikey Anderson as Charlotte Malkin.

Yay! Libby's not (quite) dead (yet)!

She's dead now.

she was heading towards sex with Hurley.
perhaps this is the better solution.

Ah man, Hurley was gonna get laid!

Bye bye breakfast...

SPOILERS!

I've heard that Libby's backstory is going to be revealed next season through flashbacks of the other characters... so she's not completely gone from the show yet. Also, she apparently has some ties to Desmond, who will be showing up again for the season finale...

ABC promises uninterrupted blocks of 'Lost'

So seven episodes at the beginning of the season, then nothing till January or February.

yeah..wait for the dvd.

Fuck, I can't wait until next week.

True enough...

This was easily the most emotional episode. So much good stuff. Hopefully this years season finale won't suck ass like last years.

Well... Desmond's supposed to be back, so that should be cool. Also, it looks like they're building up to a lot this time: what happens when the numbers aren't loaded in, why they crashed on the island to begin with, who's in that boat Sun saw, etc. Plus, not to mention whether or not Jack, et. al get caught in Michael's trap.

As for me, I'm looking forward to it...

spoilerfix said that it will basically be a two hour Desmond flash back.
I think the boat is the one from last years season finale. The others sent it there to remind Walt what has to be done. I think he got the boat for killing Ana-Lucia, it wasn't said straight out but it was implied.

I can't wait to see what Walt does. He said the others were pretenders. I really hope they explain that this season.

http://lost.cubit.net/timeline.php

A complete timeline of everything that has happened on the show.

POSSIBLE SPOILER!!!!!

The producers came up with a very interesting idea to keep their viewers looking at the show during the hiatus between the first and second seasons. In the first season's final episode, the Marshalls discover that for some reason they aren't supposed to be there. Enik later informs them that due to a time disturbance that they never really arrived in the Land of the Lost and must go back in time and relive the accident that brought them there. By going back in time, they also would experience everything that happened to them up to that point in a sort of time loop

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then a woman saying the hanso foundation was committed to unlocking human potential

That might be what it's all about.

I was wondering why they're making Sawyer so emotional about Ana Lucía's death... Not that it's not moving to see him like that, but, shit, they fucked once and barely talked before that. Then it hit me: Michael and Sawyer became unlikely friends during their time away from the rest of the group. Imagine what's gonna happen when Sawyer finds out that Michael killed Ana. He could do some crazy shit...

the island seems to dislike "love"

jack, sawyer, loche and kate (and to some extent, hurley) are the shows main grouping... and all of them have had awful love moments in life, pre-island. jack and his wife, kate and sawyer can't love anyone but have tried, loche and peggy bundy (hurley never having luck with women)

then, love is punished harsher on the island

sawyer and ana hit it off, ana dies
hurley and libby hit it off, libby dies
sayid and the blinde hit it off, the blonde dies

boone has that weird thing for his sister, he dies

michael loves his son, he is taken

claire had a baby out of wedlock/love, the others tried to steal it

mr dewitt and the black lady were in love, but forced to opposite sides of the island, thinking one another dead for weeks. i'd be interested to see how they fair.

jin and sun were in love and then sorta broke up, only later coming back together with another kid in the oven -- perhaps, like claire, in an effort to steal it.

Some spoilerish things about the season finale:

"We are going to tell you why the plane crashed," says Cuse. "We're going to explain what happens if you don't push the button. And we're going to resolve the Michael-and-Walt story." (Michael's son, Walt, was kidnapped by "the others" in last year's season finale and has been missing ever since.) Desmond, the enigmatic guy originally discovered in the hatch, also reappears, and he's not in good shape, though he gives the survivors fresh hope for escape. Just as last year's finale expanded our scope of the island's boundaries, this year's will expand its relevance. "There is something else that is reverberating on our planet that is directly linked to this island," says Monaghan. "You begin to understand that what is happening there has a significant butterfly effect in the rest of the world." One more thing: we think another character is going to die, or come close. It's just a hypothesis, based on the fact that when we asked Michelle Rodriguez (Ana Lucia) to guess which character would die after Libby, she said: "I can't do that, 'cause I know." Then she clammed up. Source: Newsweek

At the beach, long-lost button pusher Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) chugs from a bottle of booze and spills a secret. (Hint: It's sick.) [...] This time, we'll see Walt again, learn what caused Oceanic flight 815 to crash, find out what that mysterious button actually does (if anything), and more. Source: Entertainment Weekly

Anyone else think Sun's baby is gonna be black?

I think it's gonna be that bald Korean dude's baby...

Uh, unless Sun managed to save some of his semen in a refrigerated bottle, I don't think that's possible, Chewy.

Episode 2.23: Live Together, Die Alone (2-hour season finale) (Desmond-centric)

After discovering something odd just offshore, Jack and Sayid come up with a plan to confront "The Others" and hopefully get Walt back. Meanwhile, Eko and Locke come to blows as Locke makes a potentially cataclysmic decision regarding the "button" and the hatch.

Hopefully this will be better than the suck fest that was last years season finale.

Am I the only one who thinks the boat that showed up at the end of last weeks episode was the others boat?

Yes?

Indeed

What happened? Henry? Hostiles? That white light stuff? Locke, Eko, and Desmond? Libby? Statue? The hell.......................

they's in atlantis

thas not proper grammar

I didn't understand the button/key thing. It was said the failsafe would bust the dam. Wasn't not pushing the button the equivalent of Desmond using the key with the failsafe?

it turned the sky white. that should answer all your questions.

it worked for the people on the island, no one was even remotely curious!

The other guy in the hatch with Desmond was the guy that got Sayid to start torturing people in Sayid's flashback?

yeeup

Holy fucking shit.

That shit fucked with my head. I need to watch it like five more times just to figure out what the fuck happened.

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The other guy in the hatch with Desmond was the guy that got Sayid to start torturing people in Sayid's flashback?

FUCK!

Thats who that was.

That was like the greatest two hours of TV I've seen in a long time.

I kinda expected Michael and Walt to leave, but I really want to see what happens with them now. Jack, Kate and Swayer living with the others was a surprise to me, I was expecting Locke to join their side if anyone did.

The reason the plane crashed was a surpise, but not that surprising. I was hoping for it being one of the survivors fault, not Desmonds. The dude that played Desmond did a great job with this episode.

I'm still trying to process everything that happened.

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=2082134

Farks Lost season finale thread. A bunch of good stuff in it.

i used to think bermuda triangle.

but now, maybe atlantis?

like if the foot of the statue was once part of something like "the colossus" ...?

Yeah, of everything that happened, Sayid's classic line of...

"I am unsure of what disturbs me the most: that the rest of the statue is missing, or, that it only has four toes..."

...really freaked me out! That statue just added a whole new level of craziness as far as I'm concerned.

Also, this was the first time we got confirmation that there actually IS an outside world: the scene at the end with Desmond's lover and the Arctic Russians catching Desmond's EMP.

It's a true fucking shame they killed Desmond. I mean, I can think of a few others that I wouldn't mind losing in his place (Jack, Claire, Charlie). Rest in peace, "br'ther", rest in peace...

Guess Henry Gale is quite an important figure in The Other's organization afterall. Curious.

I've got to say, I'm tired of John Locke's complete neutering. His character was so badass in the first season. And now, he just keeps fucking up and getting people killed. Got to wonder if he and Eko survived or not.

All in all, this is EXACTLY what fans have been wanting the entire season: some fucking payoff! This two-hour finale was nothing but payoff on mysteries and tying up plotlines. Well done, Lost. You've got me for another season...

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It's a true fucking shame they killed Desmond.

you're not a comic book fan?

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I've got to say, I'm tired of John Locke's complete neutering. His character was so badass in the first season. And now, he just keeps fucking up and getting people killed.

i very much agree.

he's a vagina now, whimpering and crying and whining and bitching...

So, no body, no death? Is that what you're saying?

I read an interview with Terry O'Quinn. He said he "missed first season Locke", and that he wishes he had "never found those damn buttons". Said he's been talking to the writers and what they're saying about Season 3 Locke made him feel much better. So, maybe we'll see the return of the shaman...

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So, no body, no death? Is that what you're saying?

aye.

i'd be surprised if he (or locke or echo) was dead.

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I read an interview with Terry O'Quinn. He said he "missed first season Locke", and that he wishes he had "never found those damn buttons". Said he's been talking to the writers and what they're saying about Season 3 Locke made him feel much better. So, maybe we'll see the return of the shaman...

hooray!

here, thought this was interesting:

i also think its a little more than coincidental that the glyphs appear to spell "death" in english (just as the 108: appeared to spell LOST)

If you want to see "ass kicking Locke" go watch the first two seasons of Alias. He plays and guy named Kendall and he fucking owns every scene he is in.

Now THAT might be actually worth checking out. O'Quinn's the man!

I heard from a co-worker (reliable source, I know) that Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond) signed on for the third season. I, for one, hope it's true, as I'm really curious about his time in the army and what happened that got his sent to prison and dishonorably discharged.

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The other guy in the hatch with Desmond was the guy that got Sayid to start torturing people in Sayid's flashback?

Uh, no, it's Kurgan...

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Also, this was the first time we got confirmation that there actually IS an outside world: the scene at the end with Desmond's lover and the Arctic Russians catching Desmond's EMP.

I think they were talking portuguese...

I'm sorry, The Kur-Gan.

http://www.lost-theory-generator.com/lost_tv_series_theory_gen.php

make your own!

I cannot believe the numbers are meaningless! I cannot!

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I cannot believe the numbers are meaningless! I cannot!

I think they're a mathematical code for fate. Like the Hitchiker's 42.

My guess is they have something to do with this.

If there's a Lost movie, I want Samuel L. Jackson to play Michael.

"Those fuckers TOOK MY SON!"

"Listen, Michael, we have to..."

"Shut the fuck up, Jack! Those fuckers... THEY TOOK MY MOTHERFUCKING SON!"

It would definitely be an improvement...

took him... to a plane...

On a boat, Rob.

Others on a muthafuckin' boat...

honestly, is there a got damn thing i can do about it?

Did anyone see when one of the others felt up kate? that was howt.

I guess no one else caught that.

A map of everything.

http://mapgallery.esri.com/2006/414/85121816138512.jpg

possible minor spoilers

Concerning the use of time on the show, the producers did point out that just because the characters believe they’ve been on the island for a certain number of days doesn’t mean that their record of time is accurate. They also said that the mystery of Locke’s paralysis and subsequent healing upon arriving on the island would be explained scientifically this season. Damon also said there would be more involving the new underwater hatch and more Wizard of Oz references for the fans. The character of Desmond would be back, as well as more flashbacks with Libby. Any character that has been killed will not be returning to the current storyline not ruling out flashbacks and that the hieroglyphs in the hatch represent symbols that say “underworld”. We were also told that Kate would be getting romantically involved with someone this season.

Some of the creative and technical processes of the show were touched on as well by the producers where we found out that the actors usually get a script 2-3 days before shooting a scene starts. The writers do have an end point for each season so they know where they’re going as they write the individual episodes during the season. The episodes are not mapped out as they go however, to keep an organic and spontaneous growth to the writing, which allows them to add new elements and remove that which might not be working. The producers did admit as well that the pacing of the show has been influenced by the internet chat rooms resulting in a lot of what was revealed in the season 2 finale because of fans voicing for a lot more of a payoff and acceleration of the Others storyline.

Things promised in season 3 include more of an action adventure vibe and a theme will be developing of a tale of two cities between the crash survivors and the others. There will be more exploration into where Michael went at the end of season 2 now that a link to the outside world has been established. Also fans that are curious about J.J. Abrahms continued involvement would be pleased to hear he has co-written the season premiere and will direct episode 7.

Lost creators say to expect more adventure, more Others

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If you'd planned on spending the dog days of August working on your Lost theory — the one that explains everything from the polar bear to those parka-clad guys in last season's finale — maybe it's time you abandoned the quest and hit the beach instead.

Because there is no one explanation for what's gone on in the first two seasons of ABC's Lost.

At least not according to executive producer Carlton Cuse.

"We hate to debunk" anyone's theory, Cuse said — though he and fellow show-runner Damon Lindelof have dismissed a few, including the one that posits that the characters on Lost are in some kind of purgatory.

And no, it's not that writers are keeping their options open, hoping to skim off viewers' best ideas when the time comes for the big reveal.

"I wish it was that easy. That would be great if we could actually do it," Cuse said at an ABC party in Pasadena, Calif., last month.

"I think that the mistake that most of the people who theorize about the show make is trying to come up with a very simple, you know, unifying theory," he said.

So while the writers have explanations for everything that's gone on in Lost so far — and script coordinator Gregg Nations keeps track of the documentation — "it doesn't reduce down to a single, simple sentence," Cuse said.

But if there's more than one theory at work on the island, doesn't that mean coincidence — that shaky crutch too often employed in TV drama — is a factor?

Not necessarily, insisted Cuse.

"There are theories in physics ... that govern small particles, and there are Newtonian theories that govern gravitational fields for larger objects. Those two co-exist. They aren't unified into a single theory, but the connection between them is not coincidental," he said.

(Useful tip: Talking about Isaac Newton is the No. 1 way to shut up a reporter who only passed high school physics by writing a paper about the relationship between science and government.)

Fortunately, Cuse had less complicated things to say about Lost and about Season 3, which launches Oct. 4.

"The show's going to be about our characters' interaction with the Others. It's going to be more of an action-adventure year, more romance. We'd hoped to get romance last year, but the story didn't really get us there. We didn't get as far as we wanted in that regard," he said.

"It's going to be more character-oriented, less mythologically oriented. You know, last year was sort of dark and intense and underground and in the hatch," he said.

"Obviously, the other element that we introduced at the end of the season was that after 49 hours, we went off the island for the first time. And that was not a casual or coincidental or random choice," he said. "The introduction of the outside world as an element into the world of Lost is also something new for Season 3."

And because the strongest link to that world so far is Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick), you can expect to see Desmond again, too, and not just in flashbacks.

"It would be very stupid of us to kill Desmond," Cuse said.

We'll also — eventually — see Michael (Harold Perrineau) and Walt (Malcolm David Kelley) again, he said.

"We were interested in exploring what price you would pay to get your son back. The price that Michael paid was so extreme, it didn't seem possible that he could remain a part of this society after what he had done," Cuse said, noting that banishment goes back to the Greeks.

"He's been banished from the island, and that to us represented sort of the necessary consequence of his action. It doesn't mean his story is over," he said.