Pick it and choose it...it can be anything as long as it is an hour or longer..possibly even 50 minutes, but traditional feature length only (preferably to having been shown at theaters at some point as well). Anime, Disney, Bakshi, Warner Bros...whatever. Pick no more than 5, and then the best can be tallied up and listed in a poll. I'm thinking top 15 or 20 go into the poll...maybe even top 10 if there is a consensus. Totals will be counted up in 7 days so hop to it.


Vote away.........

nightmare before christmas. not animated, but not live action, so i would put it in with animated. best movie evar!


i will edit more in later when i think more on it.

Yeah, I think claymation or stop motion should count, but not Henson level puppetry like Dark Crystal or Labyrinth.

1. nightmare before christmas
2.
3.
4.
5.




will add the rest of mine later

Actually, yes it is.


South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut
The Incredibles
The Secret of NIMH
Transformers: The Movie

your right, i was thinkin, not a cartoon. by definition i suppose stop action/claymation is animated. and i am still undecided on the rest of mine. transformers is the only one i have watched recently. been 15 years since i seen the secret of nimh.

Heavy Metal





Fire and Ice




Rock and Rule




Ninja Scroll




Fantasia

South Park
The Bat-Man: Mask of the Phan-Tasm

In no order...

The Incredibles
Secret of Nimh
Lilo & Stitch
Nausicaa, Valley of the Wind
Tenchi Muyo: Tenchi In Love


I would have added Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, but it was slightly edged out...

Damnit, Cj made me think of a miyazaki movie I left out...

Ooooooooooooo, Ninja Scroll is a good choice Grimm

in my mind, it's the best of the Japanese features. I'm a bit surprised no one's at least mentioned Akira yet, since it started the current wave of popularity of anime.

Bambi



I've always been in love with the music and story of this film. It wasn't until I got the nice, cleaned up and restored version that I really appriciated the how pretty the film is as well. If you have the DVD, check out clips where they interview the animators...great stuff.

Also, props for Disney for not including the scene in the book where Bambi's dad tells him to bugger off while he enjoys a Springtime romp with Bambi's mother. That was odd.

Fantasia



Leopold conducting. Unicorns. Flying horses. Dinosaurs with Stravinksy. Huge honkin' deamon. Need I say more? I love Fantasia 2000 just as much, just for including 'The Firebird Suite'.

Princess Mononokee



After years of getting annoyed by animie, this film actually made me a fan. I've gone on to watch most of Studio G's stuff, and I've enjoyed it all.

Sleeping Beauty



Yes, I picked three Disney movies. And for different reasons. What's always impressed me with Sleeping Beauty is the artwork. Because this was the jump to a larger screen size, backgrounds needed to be more detailed. Furthermore, there's a whole 'tapestry' look to the whole film that's unlike any other Disney film.

Plus, one brutal bitch of a dragon.

...I'm holding off on my fifth choice at the moment. Watership Down comes to mind, because it was a British acid-trip of a movie, but NIMH comes close too...I haven't seen either movie in years.

yeah, i saw Akira in the theater and it made me realize how good anime could be...way ahead of it's time, but I really have no love for Akira itself other than it's prettiness.

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut

Transformers the Movie

A Bugs Life

Akira

Also The Secret of NIMH

In no order at all :

Batman Beyond : Return Of The Joker
Toy Story
The Incredibles
Iron Giant
Gulliver's Travels ( this is an old one from the 1940's. Animation for back then and art was excellent.)

Also, The Hobbit.

Heavy Metal, too.

Marcoss Plus. But that was like four 45 minute episodes, not one feature.

Macross plus doesn't count. I would also think that Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker shouldn't count either as it was made Direct to video. Pretty soon you'll have a bunch of OAV anime movies that were never shown in Japanese theaters. That could muss things up...

Love Maleficent! What an incredible bitch - definitely one of Disney's best villians...



...though Ursala gives her a serious run for her money...

Interesting little tid bit which you prolly know, Ceej, but hey: the different style of art was used, in part, because Disney was actually trying to emulate the tapestries of the Renaissance period. He wanted the look for the movie because that was the time period that Beauty was to be set in. Unfortunately, the audience was turned off by it. Sleeping Beauty was unsuccessful when it was originally released and Walt Disney believed that the art was a big part of the reason.

South Park



Brilliant.

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm



one of the most underrated animated films...

Anastasia



This movie died in the theatres, yet it was so damn good!

The Jungle Book



Baloo makes this movie.

The Incredibles



The movie the Fantastic Four should have been.

Peter Pan



Childhood favorite. How can you not love Tink?



Yeah, I know, there are 6 here...I'll figure out which one gets cut later...

The truth is, there were so many to choose from, but these two also are faves, even if they didn't make the list. Could change my mind though...

Cinderella



Beauty & the Beast

Not even. Ursala doesn't even make top five for pure evil awesomeness. Maleficent is what nightmares are made of!

My five, in no particular order:

Ninja Scroll - Akira and Vampire Hunter D got me into anime, but Ninja Scroll is the flick I watch over and over again. Beautiful animation, great action/fight scenes, and a solid horror quotient make it a favorite.

South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut - So much wrongness, so much social and Hollywood commentary, so much hilarity. The greatest musical made in the past 20 years. Fuck Baz Luhrman (sp?). Fuck Chicago. This flick is the best!

Lion King - The last truly great non-Pixar animated film from Disney. A perfect combination of comedy, drama, horror, and voice acting. For those of you who whine that it rips off Kimba (hoo hoo!), let me remind you that Kimba's creator was flattered by it and openly admitted in interviews that he himself lifted much of Kimba from Disney.

Disney's Robin Hood - Just a hilarious flick. A joy to watch from start to finish. I don't know what I like best about this: the jokes that hit their mark every time, the brilliance in animal choices for the characters, the infectious music that dares you to NOT sing along, or the scenes of everyone trying to grab Lady Cluck and the party after the archery tournament. This may be my favorite Disney flick.

Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm - Until the Christopher Nolan movie came out, this was probably the best Batman film ever done. It still may be.

These five take nothing away from The Incredibles, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs, Akira, Heavy Metal, Rock & Rule, Shrek, Cinderella, or Iron Giant. They're all great. These are just my five favorites, though I reserve the right to switch out a few depending on my mood.

ditto. I remember hearing so much about it and then finally getting to see it at a con when I lived in Mobile. I was pretty underwhelmed aside from the visuals.

great choice.

plus, it's actually pretty well written, which is were most anime falls down.




it still holds up really well. plus, the great voice cast.

i forgot about the iron giant. me n my son have watched that every thanksgivin for bout 5 of his 6 years. or i watch it and he naps.

i also liked both batman movies. i haven't seen too many anime movies, other than gits and akira though, i want to see ninja scrolls now though.


i guess my 5 would have to be

nightmare before christmas, iron giant, batman, lion king, beauty and the beast.

i just went with what i like, and how many times i could watch it and still enjoy it.

Some of the best feture length animes were released as OVAs. If you don't count them, that could muss things up.

Shenanigans! Ursala sings, is charming, funny and Eeeeeevil! G-d I fuckin' love her! How do you NOT sing along to "Poor Unfortunate Souls"?!?!?! It's brilliant! Hell, I'm singin' it right now!

Maleficent is still my fave Disney villian, though. But perhaps the most evil would be the Wicked Queen in Snow White:



"Bring me back her heart" (!!!!!)

Bitch asked for her stepdaughter's heart!! In a box! WTF!!

Awesome.

Never heard of Ninja Scroll, though admitedly I'm not an anime fan - unfortunately, the look just turns me off. Akira's on my netflix list, though as its gotten such good reviews. I'm curious about Ninja Scroll now and will check it out too.



Fine I'm adding to my honor role list: Finding Nemo, Iron Giant, Lion King (Hamlet with a happy ending!), Snow White, Dumbo, Shrek(the 1st one) and as mentioned already Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast...

Yes, you are correct. Muss all you want, but Beardguy can pick return of the joker, and someone can also pick Batman: Subzero as well.

That's part of my point. A villain - a truly GREAT villain - shouldn't have you singing their song. A good Disney villain should have that five-year-old in you cringing and cowering in fear. That's why, as much as I love Prince John from Robin Hood and Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective (Vincent Price RAWKS!!!), I wouldn't put either in my top five.



I'd place Snow White's Wicked Queen as a close (oh-so-close) second to Maleficent for a few simple reasons:

1) Both actively tried to kill the heroine. But Maleficent had the stones to curse her to death in front of the girl's parents AND a roomful of party-goers. And why? Because she wasn't invited. That's evil!

2) It's implied, but not openly stated, that Maleficent has more than a business relationship with the Infernal things that give her her power. Makin' whoopee with demons and such? Evil!!

3) Wicked Queen turns into an old lady. Maleficent turns into a dragon. A fucking dragon! EVIL!!!

4) Maleficent actually uses a curse word. In a Disney movie. EVIL!!!!

That said, it's still close between the two. And I wouldn't belittle anyone who reverses the order.



Definitely check it out. It's a gorgeous, well-made film. There's some scary shit to be seen within!

I see what you're saying, but she's still one of my favorites. And I still think she is tres evil! Plus, I found her charming. And I still love her song...

And, yes, Vincent Price is fuckin' awsome...

I'm curious - who would be in your top 5?






Yeah, but she wasn't related to Aurora. The Queen was Snow White's stepmother - it is not blood, but that is still family...



I haven't seen Snow White in years, but I thought the Wicked Queen had some connection to the Dark Side as well? I've got to watch that again...



Ok, I admit that I love the dragon, which is what eventually pushed her to being my favorite villian evar!!!

That said, Wicked Queen was an "Old lady" with poison apple! Bitch used stealth and cunning! And both got their asses thrown over a cliff anyway!



What? "Hell"?



Absolutely. Both scared the crap outta me as a little girl. But, yeah, they're neck and neck. Jafar, Gaston, Scar and the rest pale in comparison.

1) Maleficent - Sleeping Beauty (For every reason mentioned)

2) Wicked Queen - Snow White (She's a close #2, for every reason mentioned)

3) Scar - Lion King (He commits regicide and fratricide in one swoop, attempts to have his son killed, beds down his brother's wife, destroys his "people" and his land...and he has a British accent. The dude's fucking evil!)

4) Cruella DeVille - 101 Dalmations (Forget Glenn Close, the animated version is evil and psychotic and damned scary to kids. To paraphrase Stephen King: people forget how loudness in adults terrify kids, and it's easy for a child to connect "puppies" with "children".)

5) Chernibog - Fantasia (Night On Bald Mountain segment) (Forgive my spelling...for all intents and purposes, he's the devil. He may not do anything blatantly evil, but he's a damned scary character. Imagine him looking over the world from his mountain and deciding to fly over the world and create havoc...)

Which, again, is to take nothing away from Sher Khan, the wicked stepmother from Cinderella, Captain Hook (I have strong opinions about that flick as it relates to Song Of The South), Prince John, and the rest. These are just my top five.




The Queen's motivation is vanity (and fear, again implied, that Snow White will surpass her as Queen). Maleficent's motivations are pure evil - she does it because she can. The party snub is incidental - Maleficent would've cursed her whether she'd been invited or not.



The Wicked Queen uses "black" magic. She's evil, but not Evil's concubine. It's never stated in Sleeping Beauty, but it's easy to infer from certain scenes.



Yes, "hell". It's a nothing word for us today, but think about its impact on parents and children when the movie came out. That must've bordered on scandalous at the time. Just as many people were up in arms over "shit" and "damn" being said in Transformers: The Movie.

Chronicles of Narnia: The Witch, The Lion and The Wardrobe. Won an Emmy, back in the day.

Gulliver's Travels. (Have seen two American movies, one cartoon and one that combined animation and live action.)

Batman:Mask of Phantasm
Toy Story 2
Toy Story 1

Lilo & Stitch
Incredibles
Princess Mononoke
The Hobbit
Who framed Roger Rabbit? (Does that one count? If not, then Shrek)

your celery is crying

I believe that's asparagus, PJP.






I thought you were a cook.

My whole world has just been shattered.

Are you in tatters?

Does it matter?

Shoop, she-dooby...

Dammit, I was going to mention that one.

Nightmare Before Christmas
Charlie Brown Christmas Special
Lion King (for reasons described earlier)
Fantasia (Pure Disney goodness)
Roger Rabbit...if it doesn't count change it to Land Before Time.

Maleficent's my favorite Disney baddie. Shere Khan's a close second.

Also, the lady who did her voice also was Cinderella's stepmother. Despite the lack of evil powers granted by Satan, she's was pretty evil too.



Which begs the question...Maleficent versus Megatron...

I have no clue what the hell that is, but it seriously reminds me of The Last Unicorn. Same people? Makes me want to see a film version of Shardik.

i'll watch ninja scrolls tonight, though being as i will just be seeing it, i may not be ready to add it to my all time fav list, we shall see

I've got Ninja Scrolls as my next netflix movie - this thread made me damn curious...

you'll love it. that movies off the chain...

enjoy it sweet lady...

watched it. i'll have to watch it again. good, but iono if it's top 5 good. not yet. my top 5 i hae watched many times and still enjoy it.

I prefer Jin Roh to Ninja Scroll....But that's just me.

Well, I'll be wrapping this up sometime tomorrow so vote by Tomorrow or you don't get to except in the finals.

Ralph Bakshi animating Frank Frazetta. Frazetta.

In no order:

Batman: Mask of the Phantasm

Ninja Scroll

Princess Mononoke

Lion King

Secret of NIMH

Hey Grimm, I'll Netflix Fire and Ice and Ninja Scroll if you watch Gone with the Wind (c'mon, it has Superman in it...)

dont do it grimm

I'm still torn for my number five spot.

There's the movie with all the senseless rabbit violence:



And there's the one with the senseless robot violence:



Also, Richard Adams wrote another book called Plague Dogs. While a little long-winded compared to Watership, there was an animated movie.

Remember, kids, mind the 'safety' button on your shotgun...

Recognize Bakshi, but not Frazetta. But Frazetta is a good strong Italian name, so I trust him.

Okay...if not Gone with the Wind, how about reading Shardik? Like I said, the trailer really reminded me of the novel.

I thought we taught you better than that.

I've seen GWTW.

what's Shardik? I'm hip deep in Robert Howard collections right now.

Why doesn't CJ just realize older people know better?

We all love Gone With the Wind, Casablanca and Wizard of Oz.

And some of us more.

I nominate Yellow Submarine.

Well, what did you think of it?



Shardik's written by Richard Adams, who wrote Watership Down, but that's where the similarities end. It's a fantasy novel. It takes place somewhere around the Fertile Cresent (Mesopotania), but Adams doesn't go into much detail. It's about a simple hunter who stumbles across a giant bear that he thinks is Shardik, the bear god. The thinks the bear's return to his village so the natives can take over the capital city that they were driven out from. There's also a priestess who turns into quite the whore, and a creepy child slaver.

It's just so annoying because I found the book to be as good as Tolken, but no one's ever heard of it. The artwork from this Ice and Fire guy sort of reminds me of the book -- very epic fantasy. Hell, if he had done the novel's cover, the book probably would have been a hit.

Stephen King is apparently a fan of the book though. There's a robotic bear in his 'Dark Tower' series called Shardik -- I'm actually interested in reading that series.

casablanca will always be the movie. always...

Watched Ninja Scroll today (hey Harley, you can view it instantly on Netflix, fyi). Not my favorite anime. The snake lady was...interesting and the nudity was kind of ha-ha funny, but that's about it.

Yeahh.....

Done....

it's really not my thing.

Watched Fire and Ice last night. It rocked. Tacky and homoerotic, but still very awesome. Like a good version of The Black Cauldron (yeah, Disney should make more movies with armies of the dead). Yeah. I really liked it. That's exactly what a Shardik movie should look like. The Cowgirl is pleased.

and that makes it all worth it...

I saw that - I've been remiss in returning the last movies in, so mebbe I'll just watch it on the puter instead...

Gah!

Grimm, you just broke my heart a little bit...

"Frankly, kwin. . ."

great reply there mentor...

The 1977 version with Richard Harris as Gulliver, mixing animation and live action:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0076119/

Dave Fleischer's all-animated version from 1939:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0031397/