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Posted By: harleykwin Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 12:19 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/fashion/15Work.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

November 15, 2007
Life’s Work

Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss

By LISA BELKIN

I JUST booked a brief vacation, to a warm place, now that the weather is finally turning cold and the holidays loom. I clicked through all the usual disclaimers on the travel Web site — the hotel is nonrefundable; changes to flights can be made only with a hefty fee. Then I turned my attention to trip-cancellation insurance, and something new appeared.

Would I care to buy added insurance, I was asked, that allows me to cancel my trip if I have to work?

My first thought — now that’s a policy I can use — was followed quickly by my second — it’s official: nothing is sacred.

Time was when the words “I have nonrefundable tickets” were up there with “a death in the family” and “admitted to the hospital” as gold-plated reasons for not coming to work. In the last year, however, that venerable excuse has been rendered potentially moot by at least two insurers. AIG, which introduced its plan just a few weeks ago, charges $24 to add the “cancel for work reasons” option to a travel insurance plan, while Access America, which created the category just last year, charges $19.

I have had this feeling of loss before, when change, trumpeted as progress, has swept away familiar excuses. When pre-cellphone Caller ID meant I could no longer fudge my whereabouts. (No more telling editors I was at an interview when I had not managed to get my act together and leave home.) When I boarded a cruise ship and learned that not only was there an Internet cafe in the middle of the ocean, there was WiFi by the pool. (No more telling myself I couldn’t read my e-mail messages while at sea.) When I realized it was but a matter of time before cellphones are permitted on airplanes. (No more telling everyone “I am getting on a plane and can’t be reached.”)

I don’t mean to give the impression that I never work on vacation. I almost always do, which makes me all too typical. According to a survey this year of more than 6,800 workers by CareerBuilder.com, 33 percent stay in touch with the office while they are away. My most memorable work-infected vacation was in an era before laptops, when a deadline on a magazine article collided with two prepaid weeks at a beach house. So I dragged the computer and the printer and the fax machine and the dial-up modem to the beach.

And I also don’t mean to suggest that the existence of nonrefundable tickets means that no one has ever had to cancel a vacation for work. A recent Harris Interactive poll found that 19 percent of workers have done so at least once. Not all lost deposits. But I would wager that they all felt the unique frustration that comes when time off is snatched away.

David M. Grant, the president of the LVM Group, a Manhattan public relations firm, had to cancel his vacation because he’s the boss. He had his yearly two-week trip booked to the Caribbean about five years ago when he realized that one of the employees in his small company would be on maternity leave at that time. He canceled early enough that the hotel — where he and his wife went every year — was still refundable, but it was also full on the dates he was eventually free to take time off. “So we went to Mexico instead and were disappointed,” he said.

Kathleen Cosgrove, in turn, had to rearrange a vacation for work last April because she is not the boss. She had trained for months for the Boston Marathon, then learned that she would have to be in Hawaii on that date. Determined to race, Ms. Cosgrove, a publicist, flew to Hawaii and worked the week before the marathon. She flew back to Boston on Saturday and ran the race on Monday, despite having only 10 hours of sleep in the previous three days. Then she was back on a plane to Hawaii at 7 a.m. Tuesday morning, instead of taking the additional vacation days she had planned for recuperation. (Soon after, she left that employer, which she declined to name, and went to work for one with a more flexible vacation policy.)

Evo Watson was fired because she refused to cancel a vacation. Ms. Watson, who worked at a food distributor with plants in the United States and Canada, was about to leave for two weeks in Barbados — tickets paid for, time off approved — when her boss called and asked her to cancel. He didn’t tell her the reason, because he didn’t think he should have to, but in fact the company’s Florida office had been damaged in a hurricane and he needed to stay in the South rather than return to the North to replace her while she was gone.

Ms. Watson left on her cruise instead and came home to find that she did not have a job. She sued her Canadian employer, and in March a court there awarded her a year’s pay plus legal expenses. Vacation, the court said, “is a very important benefit, which should not be interfered with lightly.”

That is at the root of my sadness that one can now buy cancel-for-work policies. It is not the fact of it — after all, more expensive cancel-for-any-reason policies have long been available, so there was always a way to get your money back if you were properly insured.

What sobers me is the symbolism. The fact that scotching vacation for work has become so common, there is money to be made on it. We need those vacations. And now we can be $24 closer to leaping whenever work calls.

It makes Vicky Farrell sad, too, but she gratefully bought a policy nonetheless when AIG introduced it a few weeks ago. Ms. Farrell runs the Wee Can Dance studio for children in Hazlet, N.J., and is taking a six-week trip to South Africa starting in December.

“I wish I didn’t have to think about having to cancel, but I couldn’t book the trip if I didn’t know I had an out,” she said.

She feels reassured that not only is her $2,000 airfare completely refundable should she cancel before she leaves, but that the policy also pays for her to return home unexpectedly midtrip “if one of my teachers gets sick and I have to fly back and keep things from falling apart.” She added: “It’s not great to have to plan like that, but it’s the way life is.”

The market for such insurance makes Dan McGinnity a little sad, as well. He is the vice president of AIG Travel Guard, which created the latest cancel-for-work plan. “That’s what insurance is,” he said, “a measure of the risks we face, and I wish we weren’t all so busy that this was seen as a risk.”


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I think this is all too sad, but true. Like most people I know, I have a blackberry which makes me accessable 24/7. I have literally gotten e-mails at 2 a.m. on a Saturday morning and have had clients angry that I didn't respond until Sunday afternoon or Monday at 9 a.m. What the fuck could be so important that it has to be e-mailed on a weekend in the middle of the night? I'm sorry, but unless it is an utter emergency (in this instance it was a basic question, not very important), it can wait until the weekend is over, nevermind how I would feel if I were on vacation.

Unfortunately, with e-mail, crackberrys, and just basic cell phone, work seems to be able to encroach on free time without any barriers. It's ridiculous.
Posted By: K-nutreturns Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 2:07 AM
fuck work! that is all...
Posted By: sneaky bunny Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 2:28 AM
Eating at popeye's everday isn't work. We ax that you get a real job.
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 2:48 AM
Thats why you get your employer to get you a work only cell phone. That way you can turn it off when you're not at work. If they don't get you one, then tell them they can't bother you outside of work.
Posted By: K-nutreturns Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 4:27 AM
 Originally Posted By: sneaky bunny
Eating at popeye's everday isn't work. We ax that you get a real job.


its only everyother day thankyou very much...and quit complaining before i stop bringing you the red beans and rice...
Posted By: sneaky bunny Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 5:38 AM
but ah axed fo' mashed potatoes an' cajun gravy
Posted By: K-nutreturns Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 5:54 AM
woman your getting the red beans and rice and your gonna like it!
Posted By: Nöwheremän Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 6:00 AM
Is your wedding tackle really that small that you refer to them as beans and rice?
Posted By: Nöwheremän Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 6:27 AM
So you want a day off. Let's take a look at what you are asking for.

There are 365 days per year available for work.

There are 52 weeks per year in which you already have 2 days off per week, leaving 261 days available for work.

Since you spend 16 hours each day away fron work, you have used up 170 days, leaving only 91 days available.

You spend 30 minutes each day on coffee break which counts for 23 days each year, leaving only 68 days available.

With a 1 hour lunch each day, you used up another 46 days, leaving only 22 days available for work.

You normally spend 2 days per year on sick leave.

This leaves you only 20 days per year available for work.

We are off 5 holidays per year, so your available working time is down to 15 days.

We generously give 14 days vacation per year which leaves only 1 day available for work.

There's no way I'll let you take that day off!
Posted By: Jeremy Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 9:43 AM
There's always sick time...
Posted By: big_pimp_tim Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 10:30 AM
huzzah sick time.


speaking of which i have bout 15 hours burning a whole in my pocket. shit, i gotta use 40 vac hours or i lose them.....
Posted By: Jeremy Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 12:11 PM
Already using them...

The vacation...not the sick time.
My idiot employer does not give sick time. Does anyone here work full time and not get sick time?
Posted By: Pariah Carey Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 3:42 PM
Is that even legal?

Fucker.
Posted By: Beardguy57 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 5:13 PM
 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
My idiot employer does not give sick time. Does anyone here work full time and not get sick time?


That is just fucked up, Lothar. \:\(
Posted By: Uschi Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 9:19 PM
I was confused reading this, 'cause I thought the title was, "Hello, Vatican: it's the boss" and thought it would be something about the pope.
I thought it would be about Who's the Boss.
Posted By: sneaky bunny Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-16 9:42 PM
That old hag?
Take THAT Tony Danza!
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 1:54 AM
 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
My idiot employer does not give sick time. Does anyone here work full time and not get sick time?


Do you get vacation days? Most full time jobs I've had they just lump all time off in one category.
Posted By: Nöwheremän Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:11 AM
I dunno how it is in the US, but over here there are two types of sick pay, statuatory and company.
Statuatory sick pay is paid by the government and is quite minimal.
It also has to be accrued via tax payments on you weekly/monthly pay, and even then, you can only take so much in a year!

Company sick pay is completely voluntary by the company at hand, with the company under no legal obligation to provide anything!
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:13 AM
Thats called socialism. We don't have that here.
Posted By: Nöwheremän Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:49 AM
No thats right, you dont have sick pay, free health care and such!
Must be great when you are ill and you cant earn enough money to pay for you health bills!
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:51 AM
If thats what you want to believe.


I'm not discussing that here because I don't want "them" to invade this thread.
Posted By: whomod Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:56 AM
 Originally Posted By: rex



I'm not discussing that here because I don't want "them" to invade this thread.




Posted By: Beardguy57 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 2:59 AM


I remember that old horror movie

it ought to have been done on MST3K at some point..
Posted By: whomod Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 3:01 AM
And the funny thing was that i was going to add that Beardguy will probably appreciate that pic...
Posted By: K-nutreturns Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 4:08 AM
you know him too well....


















































IN THE ASS!!!
Posted By: allan1 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 7:57 AM
 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
My idiot employer does not give sick time. Does anyone here work full time and not get sick time?

Yup,that'd be me.I have 88 hrs. of paid time to use each year.80 vacation hrs. and 8 personal(same thing if you ask me).That's it.My wife accrues "x#" hours of sick time,flex time,vacation time and personal time each week.She's got time to burn and the bulk of it is "rollover" and she never loses it.I,on the other hand not only have to use it,but they only want me to use it between the months of April & September because October-March are the busiest times of the year.Fuck that I say.I work hard for my paltry time off and I'll use it when I goddamn well choose to.'specially since I have no sick time.
Posted By: allan1 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 7:59 AM
*side note* "Them" is an awesome movie.
Posted By: Beardguy57 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 8:09 AM
 Originally Posted By: allan1
*side note* "Them" is an awesome movie.


Very true!



Posted By: big_pimp_tim Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 11:32 AM
i get a crazy amount of time. i accrue mine bi-weekly. 3.75 vac, and 3.25 sick, every payday. it doesn't seem like much, but in a years time it builds up quickly. hell, i didn't even realize till i did the math just how much we were really getting.


plus, i have had 2 paid days off for holiday and i get 2 more. huzzah for columbus n thanksmas.... and yeah to okies being proud to be a waste of a state and making a holiday like statehood day a state holiday
Posted By: cross Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 11:06 PM
I get 6 months off a year, and time and a half/ double time if i work any of them. but i don't get vacation. unless I ask the previous quarter.
Posted By: cross Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-17 11:06 PM
or fall down a flight of stairs.
Posted By: Joey From Friends Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 12:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxXNP6uBHmU
Posted By: cross Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 12:15 AM
yeah kind of like that, only with steel, and landing on your ass
Posted By: Grimm Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 12:56 AM
steel ain't s'posed to land on your ass!
Posted By: Grimm Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 1:37 AM
 Originally Posted By: cross
yeah kind of like that, only with steel, and landing on your ass





-joey from friends
Posted By: Uschi Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 6:54 AM
 Originally Posted By: Grimm
 Originally Posted By: cross
yeah kind of like that, only with steel, and landing on your ass





-joey from friends


"Look at my Penis"
 Originally Posted By: rex
 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
My idiot employer does not give sick time. Does anyone here work full time and not get sick time?


Do you get vacation days? Most full time jobs I've had they just lump all time off in one category.
I get ten vacation days a year with no sick time. They do give us Keiser medical but i have to pay something like $155 a month for that. That's about it. Other than that they provide a free extreme amount of fighting, immaturity, and stupidity throughout the entire company. I stay there for the work schedule and that's probably gonna come to an end soon 'cause my cocaine snorting man hating dumb shit of a supervisor wants to give my job to her druggie friends who can't make it to work three days in a row due to being drunk all the time.
Posted By: Beardguy57 Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 9:21 AM
That really sucks.

Hope you have some good options in case you get the sack.
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 9:53 AM
The amount off sounds about right but you shouldn't have to pay anything for keiser. Its not worth it.
Posted By: whomod Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-18 11:27 AM
This is actually an issue that is near and ear to my heart as I'm not the type that thinks their work defines them. LIFE defines me, my family defines me. I define me. Not my work. So I'm not one of those workaholics. So i'll repost this piece.

 Quote:
Land of the overworked and tired

We're taking fewer vacations so the Joneses won't get too far ahead of us.

By Ezra Klein,

EZRA KLEIN is a staff writer at the American Prospect. His blog is at EzraKlein.com.

July 15, 2007

THE MOST astonishing revelations in Michael Moore's "Sicko" have nothing to do with healthcare. They're about vacation time. French vacation time, to be precise.

Sitting at a restaurant table with a bunch of American ex-pats in Paris, Moore is treated to a jaw-dropping recitation of the perks of social democracy: 30 days of vacation time, unlimited sick days, full child care, social workers who come to help new parents adjust to the strains and challenges of child-rearing. Walking out of the theater, I heard more envious mutterings about this scene than any other.

"Why can't we have that?" my fellow moviegoers asked.

The first possibility is that we already do. Maybe that perfidious Michael Moore is just lying in service of his French paymasters. But sadly, no. A recent report by Rebecca Ray and John Schmitt of the Center for Economic and Policy Research suggests that Moore is, if anything, understating his case. "The United States," they write, "is the only advanced economy in the world that does not guarantee its workers paid vacation." Take notice of that word "only." Every other advanced economy offers a government guarantee of paid vacation to its workforce. Britain assures its workforce of 20 days of guaranteed, compensated leave. Germany gives 24. And France gives, yes, 30.

We guarantee zero. Absolutely none. That's why one out of 10 full-time American employees, and more than six out of 10 part-time employees, get no vacation. And even among workers with paid vacation benefits, the average number of days enjoyed is a mere 12. In other words, even those of us who are lucky enough to get some vacation typically receive just over a third of what the French are guaranteed.

This is strange. Of all these countries, the United States is, by far, the richest. And you would think that, as our wealth grew and our productivity increased, a certain amount of our resources would go into, well, us. Into leisure. Into time off. You would think that we'd take advantage of the fact that we can create more wealth in less time to wrest back some of those hours for ourselves and our families.

But instead, the exact opposite has happened. The average American man today works 100 more hours a year than he did in the 1970s, according to Cornell University economist Robert Frank. That's 2 1/2 weeks of added labor. The average woman works 200 more hours — that's five added weeks. And those hours are coming from somewhere: from time with our kids, our friends, our spouses, even our bed. The typical American, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, sleeps one to two hours less a night than his or her parents did.

This would all be fine if it were what we wanted. But that doesn't seem to be the case. One famous 1996 study asked associates at major law firms which world they'd prefer: The one they resided in, or one in which they took a 10% pay cut in return for a 10% reduction in hours worked. They overwhelmingly preferred the latter. Elsewhere, economists have given individuals sets of choices pitting leisure against goods. Leisure doesn't always win out, but it is certainly competitive. Yet we're pumping ever more hours into work, seeking ever-higher incomes to fund ever-greater consumption. Why?

A possible answer can be found in Frank's work. He argues that the U.S. economy has set its incentives up so as to systematically underemphasize leisure and overemphasize consumption. Much of what we purchase are called "positional goods" — goods whose value is measured in relation to the purchases of others. Take housing. Would you rather live in a land where you had a 4,000-square-foot house and everyone else had a 6,000-square-foot house, or one in which you had a 3,000-square-foot house and everyone else had a 2,000-square-foot house? Given this choice, studies show that most respondents pick the latter.

Being concerned with one's relative position rather than one's absolute position is not irrational or merely motivated by envy. In order to retain your relative standard of living, you need to keep up with the purchases of others in your income bracket. Retaining your relative position also ensures that you don't send the wrong signals when a client comes over for dinner. Houses, cars, clothing — they all help send those signals. And because the rich in this country keep getting richer, we're caught in what Frank calls "expenditure cascades" in an effort to keep up with them. Their purchases raise the bar for the group right below them, which in turn increases the needs of the next income set, and so on.

This makes the purchase of positional goods more pressing and urgent than non-positional goods. And so they "crowd out" their less context-contingent cousins. People want to spend less time at work, but they also want to retain and improve their standard of living relative to their neighbors — and the latter triumphs, time and again.

This isn't because people are stupid, or irrational, or don't know what they want. Rather, it's because the incentives are all fouled up. Frank calls it a "smart for one, dumb for all" problem, but it's really just a classic failure of collective action. An individual would be made worse off were he to unilaterally opt out of the positional competition. But we would all be better off if we decided collectively to ratchet down the economic one-upmanship and instead devote a bit more time and resources to the leisure goods we claim to desire.

Here in the sweltering D.C. summer, there's nothing worse than wearing a necktie when the thermometer reads 95 and the humidity is so thick you could swim laps. But on your own, there's not much you can do about this state of affairs. If you're the only one who shows up dressed down, you'll look bad for it. But if your office, or meeting, were to collectively decide to ease the dress code, all would be better off.

This is what the European Union just did, imposing new regulations on its bureaucrats barring ties in the summer. Cutting down on air-conditioning costs was the rationale, but centralized action was the only way to end the practice. Otherwise, every individual would still have had the incentive to show his commitment by dressing in a tie. Only the collective could remove that spur.

So too with vacations. Very few individual workers in the United States can ask for four weeks of vacation. It is not only outside the benefits of their job but far outside the culture of our workplace. The incentives for most every individual, particularly if they want to keep their position and amass a reputation as a good employee, is to abide by those norms.

But if the crowd outside "Sicko" was any indication, most people would love a substantial increase in vacation time. This is what other advanced nations have pursued, using the government's role as an enforcer of collective sentiment to legislate the preferences that individuals could not, on their own, enact.

In this country, we've left it to the individuals, and thus the average American worker only takes 13 days of vacation a year, and many get none. We could do better, but that would require sidestepping American individualism for a moment and engaging in some American collectivism.


Yes yes, with all this bitching by the lower classes about how bad off we are, how on Earth will our capitalistic system ever survive?? Don't they realize that with hard work, one day they too might enjoy the spoils of overworking their own employees and denying them health care. Isn't it the American way??

Ok, sarcasm off. Now this topic is near and dear to my heart as well. I've had this conversation several times with my boss as well as co-workers. Every time they think i'm flat out lying about how much time off our counterparts in Europe (or any other industrialized nation for that matter) take off. That's how much we've been conditioned to see time off as either laziness or else adequate.

It's also stunning just ho ignorant we all are as to how the rest of the industrialized world lives. That's no accident I think. Whenever anyone like Moore tries to show us, it's attack attack attack and empty baseless rhetoric about how "USA is # 1" and how we have the best standard of living in the ENTIRE WORLD!". All being declared by people who know NOTHING about how the rest of the industrialized world is living as compared to us. Jingoistic fervor and slogans are fine if you're unilaterally invading a country that had done nothing to you. It's quite pathetic when it's about things that directly affect you and your family, and the quality of your lives.

Now I know Bush takes many vacations. And he's criticized for them. Rightly so. Why? Because decent vacation time shouldn't be the luxury of those better off than you and I. Just like health care shouldn't be a luxury for those with means. As I actually read some bullshit doctor who is buying up area hospitals and then dropping people with more expensive to treat condition's, argue in the local paper.

I dunoo... We can criticize Moore's "bias" all we want. What we're discussing though is what the right likes to call "class warfare". [Some people in this country] think health care and vacations are privileges, the rest of the modern world thinks otherwise. One day American's are going to wise up and they're not going to be too happy with those who say they don't deserve to be looked at, treated, or to simply relax with their families for a respectable amount of time if they can't afford it. Especially when countries that we say we're better than are doing it without batting an eye. The rich are always going to get richer. Do we really need the poor fighting their battles to their own detriment for them all to the tune of "socialism socialism"!!!???

I'm actually looking forward to December when i'm going to take [6 weeks] off to bond with my baby. It's a California law. One my boss knows nothing about. This is the same boss who tried to "have a talk with me" last week because I missed 4 days of work. Yes, I missed 4 days of work because I had a raging fever and nasty viral infection and had to go to Emergency room. I was too sick to even stand much less drive so my wife took me to the emergency room.

But of course all that didn't matter. What mattered was that I should go to work and not make excuses. God bless America. I was so pissed when I came back to work that i told him off as he was trying to "talk to me" about whether i wanted to "choose to hold on to my position or not". Y'know that slimy corporate doublespeak that is basically saying that if you want your title, you aern't allowed to get sick. Fuck that.
Posted By: THE Bastard Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-19 9:47 AM
I get 3.75 hrs. vacation time per pay period (every 2 weeks) that acrues and rolls over up 160 hours. I also get 5 days sick/bereavement time per year that does not roll over. Currently, I have just over 100 hours of vacation time and my sick time is all used up.

That is all.
Posted By: whomod Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-19 11:59 AM
Well, I get 4 weeks vacation. It would have been 5 weeks come next year but new management nixed that as apparently it was too generous a proposition for them to wrap their minds around.
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-19 12:04 PM
The last job I had when I lived in Sacramento gave everyone two weeks time off once you've worked there a month.

Since I liked that job I never took anytime off except for the week of Christmas. They also gave me the choice at the end of the year to either keep the time off or get paid for it. I would usually get two weeks worth of pay during Christmas and not working at all.
Posted By: big_pimp_tim Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-20 10:51 AM
 Originally Posted By: THE Bastard
I get 3.75 hrs. vacation time per pay period (every 2 weeks) that acrues and rolls over up 160 hours. I also get 5 days sick/bereavement time per year that does not roll over. Currently, I have just over 100 hours of vacation time and my sick time is all used up.

That is all.



i only have 65 vac, and 15 sick \:\(

and 40 is gonna be gone in the next month.
Posted By: Jeremy Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-22 9:25 AM
Posted By: Uschi Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-22 9:44 AM
I'm not sure I quite get it. Is the bush mooning the neighbor? Or did the pruner just want to show the neighbor what he (old man/neighbor) looks like, weeding the garden all the time? Or whatever?
Posted By: Jeremy Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-22 9:09 PM
Dood, it's an image. It's meant to make you chuckle then you go on with your life. No need to over anal-ize it.
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-22 11:30 PM
Maybe you should post it over and over again in every forum. Maybe then she'll get it.
Posted By: Uschi Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-23 12:53 AM
But I don't see the joke.
Than it's a good thing there are men around here to explain things to you women.
Posted By: Uschi Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-24 4:16 AM
Well, y'all have failed so far. When do you start to explain?
Posted By: rex Re: Hello, Vacation: It’s the Boss - 2007-11-24 10:08 AM
Jeremy posted it. You shouldn't give it much thought or you will turn into me.
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