DC Fans Who Love Cheese and the Gospel of Cheese - 2004-06-19 8:08 AM
After way too long a hiatus, I'm resurrecting one of my favorite topics from the old DC boards.
But first, I have to post it in something close to the context in which it was originally written. There were a number of conservatives/Christians -vs- liberals/non-Christians topics back in the day on the DC boards. Often laid into when topics arose about gay comic characters, or topics speculating about characters being gay, or other more overtly political and less comic-related discussions, where gay issues or Christian issues were raised.
Most of these topics lasted about two or three days before our beloved moderator mercifully deleted them.
But this one went on at some length:
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CHRISTIAN DC FANS topic
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Mike S. Miller, posted September 18, 2000, 4:55 AM:
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PLEASE, let's try this again without all you anti-Christians trying to start trouble.
Christ is rarely portrayed in comics. Actually, never, that I recall.
And Christians are rarely portrayed in a light that reflects what a true Christian soul is like.
Sure, you can have your sleazy tele-evangelist characters and your sin-enjoying priest characters.
But a calm, rational, loving, giving caring Christian character?
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In comics? At DC ? Anyone know of any ?
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I mean, besides Ma Kent.
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PLEASE, let's try this again without all you anti-Christians trying to start trouble.
Christ is rarely portrayed in comics. Actually, never, that I recall.
And Christians are rarely portrayed in a light that reflects what a true Christian soul is like.
Sure, you can have your sleazy tele-evangelist characters and your sin-enjoying priest characters.
But a calm, rational, loving, giving caring Christian character?
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In comics? At DC ? Anyone know of any ?
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I mean, besides Ma Kent.
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Drawin' for God
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Abin_Sur, posted September 18, 2000, 5:23AM:
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Well, I'm not really an expert or anything. But the whole entire concept of the Spectre is Christian. First he was about vengeance and punishing the wicked, and now he's about redemption and all of that.
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Other than that? Well, Zauriel is a Christian character. Besides that, Supergirl and Nightwing. And that doesn't even go into Nightcrawler from the X-MEN.
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Oh, BTW, nice to see you again, Mr. Miller, after that big flame war. If you ever get tired of this thread, here's another you can come and post about:
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What's the subject of it? Nothing at all. It's a constant evolving discussion about anything. Examples? You want to go talk about a movie you just saw and think it should be praised as the best thing around? Go ahead and do so. Only rules are:
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-Relaxing
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Well, I'm not really an expert or anything. But the whole entire concept of the Spectre is Christian. First he was about vengeance and punishing the wicked, and now he's about redemption and all of that.
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Other than that? Well, Zauriel is a Christian character. Besides that, Supergirl and Nightwing. And that doesn't even go into Nightcrawler from the X-MEN.
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Oh, BTW, nice to see you again, Mr. Miller, after that big flame war. If you ever get tired of this thread, here's another you can come and post about:
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http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/004155.html
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What's the subject of it? Nothing at all. It's a constant evolving discussion about anything. Examples? You want to go talk about a movie you just saw and think it should be praised as the best thing around? Go ahead and do so. Only rules are:
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-Relaxing
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-More relaxing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Abin_Sur - Because you gotta like a red alien in a GL suit...
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Member of the JSAAA Yahoo Club
Which was a very pleasant and tame beginning. But it got very ugly after that. And went on for 23 pages of about the most bitter and angry flame-war I've ever seen.
In response, Ubermisfit, one of the resident genius humorists of the old DC boards, started this topic a few days later:
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DC FANS WHO LOVE CHEESE AND THE GOSPEL OF CHEESE topic
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Ubermisfit, posted October 1 2000, 10:39 AM:
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PLEASE, let's try this again, without all you anti-Cheese people trying to start trouble.
Cheese is rarely portrayed in comics. Actually never, that I can recall.
And Cheeses are rarely portrayed in a light that reflects what a true Cheese product is like.
Sure, you can have your sleazy velveeta and your sin-enjoying blue cheese. But a calm, rational, loving, giving, caring Cheese? son?
In comics? At DC? Anyone know of any?
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I mean, besides Captain Marvel.
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PLEASE, let's try this again, without all you anti-Cheese people trying to start trouble.
Cheese is rarely portrayed in comics. Actually never, that I can recall.
And Cheeses are rarely portrayed in a light that reflects what a true Cheese product is like.
Sure, you can have your sleazy velveeta and your sin-enjoying blue cheese. But a calm, rational, loving, giving, caring Cheese? son?
In comics? At DC? Anyone know of any?
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I mean, besides Captain Marvel.
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Donnie's Mom, posted October 1, 2000, 10:53 AM:
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CHEESE IS EVIL !!!
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CHEESE IS EVIL !!!
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JerichoFan, posted October 1, 2000, 11:09 AM:
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I loved cheese, but I'm lactose intolerant. Ah, the good old days... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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But Gar ordered a grilled-cheese sandwich in TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS # 55 when he was having a heart-to-heart chat with Slade about Terra.
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I loved cheese, but I'm lactose intolerant. Ah, the good old days... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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But Gar ordered a grilled-cheese sandwich in TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS # 55 when he was having a heart-to-heart chat with Slade about Terra.
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Speedy, the smackhead, posted October 1, 2000, 11:09 AM:
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Hmmm, that's a good one...
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I have no clue who might worship Cheese in the DCU...
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except maybe
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Goudaman...
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Hmmm, that's a good one...
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I have no clue who might worship Cheese in the DCU...
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except maybe
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Goudaman...
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DavidEdwardMartin, posted October 1, 2000, 11:14 AM:
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Man, I am sitting here racking my middle-aged brain and I cannot recall a single depiction of cheese in any non-anthropomorphic DC comic !
Plainly, this is censorship of the worst order !
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So... what cheese does Superman eat?
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Man, I am sitting here racking my middle-aged brain and I cannot recall a single depiction of cheese in any non-anthropomorphic DC comic !
Plainly, this is censorship of the worst order !
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So... what cheese does Superman eat?
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"The thing about late night cookery was that it made sense at the time. It always had some logic to it. It just wasn't the kind of logic you used around mid-day."
Terry Pratchett, The Last Continent
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Ubermisfit, posted October 1, 2000, 11:22 AM:
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Look, just because you don't like cheese gives you no reason to be intolerant to those of us who do enjoy cheese!
To make a blanket statement like the one you made is ignorant and intolerable !
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I can respect your opinion, but when you start bashing our beliefs without any logical reason, you are being intolerant!
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The Book of Provolone clearly says: "I am the cheese. Those who do not believe me or any of my tasty products shall not be allowed into Cheesyland on Cheese Day!"
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Now, you can take chances if you want to, but I plan on being in Cheesyland on Cheese Day.
I can only hope you learn to accept cheese before it is too late.
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Donnie's Mom, posted October 1, 2000, 10:53 AM:
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CHEESE IS EVIL !!!
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CHEESE IS EVIL !!!
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Look, just because you don't like cheese gives you no reason to be intolerant to those of us who do enjoy cheese!
To make a blanket statement like the one you made is ignorant and intolerable !
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I can respect your opinion, but when you start bashing our beliefs without any logical reason, you are being intolerant!
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The Book of Provolone clearly says: "I am the cheese. Those who do not believe me or any of my tasty products shall not be allowed into Cheesyland on Cheese Day!"
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Now, you can take chances if you want to, but I plan on being in Cheesyland on Cheese Day.
I can only hope you learn to accept cheese before it is too late.
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Speedy, the smackhead, posted October 1, 2000, 12:32 AM:
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Let's not forget the main character of Preacher:
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Cheesy Custard...
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I can't believe I actually forgot him in my first post.
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Goudamit !
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Let's not forget the main character of Preacher:
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Cheesy Custard...
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I can't believe I actually forgot him in my first post.
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Goudamit !
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Stephanie, posted October 1, 2000, 12:41 PM:
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Can't we all just get along?
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It doesn't matter if you like natural cheese, goat cheese or soy cheese, processed cheese, spray can cheese, powder cheese, soylent cheese or whatever !
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We should put aside our differences and live in harmony.
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Can't we all just get along?
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It doesn't matter if you like natural cheese, goat cheese or soy cheese, processed cheese, spray can cheese, powder cheese, soylent cheese or whatever !
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We should put aside our differences and live in harmony.
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Zatara, The Magician, posted October 1, 2000, 12:52 PM:
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Has everyone forgotten the great religious tome, which revealed its truth to us all?
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Why, of course I refer to those blessed little scallywags, MILK and CHEESE !
Bow before their reckless chicanery, seek their truth, or surely you will die !
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! Scimoc CD daeR : eeht dnammoc I
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Has everyone forgotten the great religious tome, which revealed its truth to us all?
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Why, of course I refer to those blessed little scallywags, MILK and CHEESE !
Bow before their reckless chicanery, seek their truth, or surely you will die !
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! Scimoc CD daeR : eeht dnammoc I
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Soylent Green, posted October 1, 2000, 6:05 PM:
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Cheese is blatantly discriminated against in comics.
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I direct your attention to the ONI Double Feature # 1, starring Jay and Silent Bob. It features a short one-pager featuring the characters "Milk & Cheese".
However, both Milk and Cheese are portrayed as "dentally retarded", assaulting hapless people and stealing their teeth. Hardly a positive portrayal of dairy products.
I wrote to the editors protesting this but received no reply.
I urge ALL cheese lovers to follow my lead and boycott all ONI press publications.
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Another example. In an issue of Deadpool, Wade told Blind Al to give Zoe and Monty some cheese and crackers. We never saw whether she did or not. Another blatant case of discrimination against cheese.
If cheese is only going to get a token mention, then it's not worth it.
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And, of course, it's portrayed as a stereotype, as if all cheese has to be "with crackers".
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I also wrote to Marvel, but again, no response.
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In times like this, I find it best to ask: What would Cheesus do?
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Cheese is blatantly discriminated against in comics.
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I direct your attention to the ONI Double Feature # 1, starring Jay and Silent Bob. It features a short one-pager featuring the characters "Milk & Cheese".
However, both Milk and Cheese are portrayed as "dentally retarded", assaulting hapless people and stealing their teeth. Hardly a positive portrayal of dairy products.
I wrote to the editors protesting this but received no reply.
I urge ALL cheese lovers to follow my lead and boycott all ONI press publications.
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Another example. In an issue of Deadpool, Wade told Blind Al to give Zoe and Monty some cheese and crackers. We never saw whether she did or not. Another blatant case of discrimination against cheese.
If cheese is only going to get a token mention, then it's not worth it.
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And, of course, it's portrayed as a stereotype, as if all cheese has to be "with crackers".
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I also wrote to Marvel, but again, no response.
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In times like this, I find it best to ask: What would Cheesus do?
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CarrinaWinters, posted October 1, 2000, 8:32 PM:
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raptor, posted October 1, 2000, 8:33 PM:
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I like to eat a good Greek feta when reading WONDER WOMAN,
string cheese while reading PLASTIC MAN,
Cheese Whiz when reading THE FLASH,
hunter's cheese when reading THE HUNTRESS,
Monteray Jack when reading STARMAN,
and Bleu Cheese when reading BLUE BEETLE
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I like to eat a good Greek feta when reading WONDER WOMAN,
string cheese while reading PLASTIC MAN,
Cheese Whiz when reading THE FLASH,
hunter's cheese when reading THE HUNTRESS,
Monteray Jack when reading STARMAN,
and Bleu Cheese when reading BLUE BEETLE
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Captain Call, posted October 1, 2000, 8:38 PM:
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When you read NIGHTWING, you should try some Di...
Never mind...
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"Does he know he's your son?"
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"Your horse but not your nam? You haven't even given him your name?"
"I put more value on the horse..."
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When you read NIGHTWING, you should try some Di...
Never mind...
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"I hate a man that talks rude, I won't tolerate it."
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"Does he know he's your son?"
"I suppose he does --I give him my horse."
"Your horse but not your nam? You haven't even given him your name?"
"I put more value on the horse..."
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