[quote=Wonder Boy]
Muslims moved to our country and should be, as a condition of immigration, be expected to assimilate to OUR culture, not we to theirs. Otherwise they should go back to their islamic nations, where their true loyalties are.
Nothing racist about that. Nothing at all.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a racist statement. Indeed, people immigrating to a different country with a different culture should accept that the local culture is the dominating one. They should adapt to that culture and accept that this is how it is done in whatever country they immigrate to.
That is not to say that they should adopt the culture and abandon their own, not at all. But at the very least, we should expect them to respect our culture, our laws and our way of living, and not interfere with it.
That their own culture can add and expand upon the culture they enter is not neccessarily a bad thing. Surely Islamic culture has many valuable facets that can be introduced into ours to create a more diverse and colourful society.
But they have to understand and accept that certain practises common in their homelands are not welcome in the western world, others even outright banned (stoning, slavery, honour-killing, etc.)
Let us take Honour killing as an example. While it may not be legal, as we understand legality, in various islamic countries, it is many countries generally accepted. Or at the very least, people turn a blind eye.
But honour killing is murder. And in our part of the world we don't do that (well, most of us don't) It is illegal. And if a muslim cannot, or will not understand such a simple principle, that in the western world we do not kill for honour, then there is no place for him here.
Raping. We've had quite a few cases here in Denmark where muslims have raped, even gang-raped danish women. And when they are caught, which they all eventually are, they are put before a judge. What is interesting to note is that the rapists are unable to understand what is they have done wrong.
They are either sick, twisted and highly in need of help, or they are indoctrinated to believe that if you do not conform with their culture/religion, then you are not worthy of respect.
In Islam women are generally taught to wear Burqas, to not smile in the public forum and to avert their gaze from other men. And the boys are taught that this is how a proper woman acts, a clean woman, a moral woman.
Whereas danish women are raised to be confident, to smile and laugh when they want to, to meet other people's gaze, to not look away and to be proud of who and what they.
This naturally conflicts with what these muslim boys are taught, so a natural development could be that these boys think of danish women, or even western women in general as whores who have no societal standing and thus raping cannot possibly be wrong.
But it is wrong!
Seriously Rex, would it be too much to ask for muslims, or even immigrants of other cultures and religions, to leave such facets of their culture at home when they come to our part of the world?
It's not racism, it's common sense.
Whether or not Wonderboy is a racist is a different discussion I don't much care to entertain
). Guess I just don't see what the big deal is.
