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Would anyone here say that they are to any degree racist, homophobic or prejudiced against a particular social group?
I don’t mean that you look forward to going out queer bashing, or are signed-up member of the KKK, or take every opportunity to spit on Muslims. What I mean is do you have the kind of prejudice that is just a part of your personality – the kind that you may even find unreasonable or unfounded and yet you still feel it?
Have you ever been prejudiced and either taken steps to overcome it or somehow had your opinion changed?
This isn’t the thread to go pointing the finger at other people.
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Honestly, yes. Deep down, I can't say that I hold everyone in the same esteem. There are groups of people for whom my initial gut feeling is that of contempt. It's a constant situation where I have to double check the motivations behind my opinions when dealing with others...'Do I genuinely disagree, or is my opinion responding to a bias?'
When I look back on my life, I can see that some of these opinions are the result of opinions held by my parents (racial biases). These are not so hard to ignore. Others (class and aesthetic biases) are my own. These I find require dilligence to constantly keep in check. This is perhaps why I try to reason with homophobes before I will attack thier dogma. They are responding to ingrained behavioral patterns rather than logic, as I am inclined to do when I am presented a case by or for a group of people that offend my own sensebilities.
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I judge people not by their skin color, but how they present themselves.
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Not even devout Christians?
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Cowgirl Jack said: I can't stand people who feel when they should think.
Me to. Which makes living in Eugene even harder.
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Another thing I judge people on is how they act in public. Since I ride the bus I hear all kinds of really horrible things about people that I don't want to hear and they really need to keep to themselves.
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There are two things in this world I can't stand: prejudice and the French.
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the G-man said: There are two things in this world I can't stand: prejudice and the French.
Sounds fair, as I've come to the realization that the French can't stand anyone either...it's more like returning a favor than predjudice. That and those fuckers need to learn the value of a (minimal) daily shower. Christ des français!
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Actually, you being from Montreal and everything makes you an honorary Frenchman in my book.
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I don't like really smart, bossy people and I don't like people who think they know everything. I don't care for mean people who have to put others down for themselves to feel good..... And I don't like those robots on Battlestar Galactica.
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Seriously, however...
I don't think it's possible for anyone to be completely without prejudice.
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the G-man said: Actually, you being from Montreal and everything makes you an honorary Frenchman in my book.
Take that back!! I can forgive your posturing and 'opinions' on these boards so far...but that, that was over the line! Quebecois and Français are two entirely different things!
Predjudiced asshole!
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Is that the only ethnic group you hate?
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racist, no...prejudiced, yes. I grew up in southern Ohio with people saying the N word all day and talking all kinds of goofy things. As much as I judge people on their actions I still find myself thinking weird things when I don't want to. Mostly when I'm driving , of course. I will think or say, learn how to drive "n*****" or "S***"...that kind of stuff. I know I don't believe it, but I think it and blurt it out in stressful situations...
So, I'm guilty and admit it...
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I just wanted to see if that was the only group you hated, thats all, bitch.
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Stop thinking and keep those refreshments coming.......make sure you bring some beers and maybe some Fresca for Rob also.
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gundamwingpilot said: I just wanted to see if that was the only group you hated, thats all, bitch.
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Pig Iron said: racist, no...prejudiced, yes. I grew up in southern Ohio with people saying the N word all day and talking all kinds of goofy things. As much as I judge people on their actions I still find myself thinking weird things when I don't want to. Mostly when I'm driving , of course. I will think or say, learn how to drive "n*****" or "S***"...that kind of stuff. I know I don't believe it, but I think it and blurt it out in stressful situations...
So, I'm guilty and admit it...
I lived in Dayton (82-92) when I went to elementary and middle school. I don't think I ever had a teacher straight out say that white people are better than black people, but I remember them saying that they are different. I also had a black teacher tell us that we should treat black people better than white people because of everything they went through. It was also socially unacceptable for whites and blacks to hang out together. I'm really glad I don't live there anymore.
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So, you hate wimmins?
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It boils down to getting to know people as people. Anyone can see someone as an other, but whne you get to know and like someone as a human being it changes your perspective...as much as possible barring 32 years of racist talk from peers and elders.
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the G-man said: Seriously, however...
I don't think it's possible for anyone to be completely without prejudice.
I concur!
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I think we all have some basic instincts that lead us towards prejudice. How you deal with it is what counts.
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Snobs.
When middle friends of mine say stuff about people just because they are working class and get on a middle class high horse, I get really pissed off, even if the people in question are arseholes, because I hate the British class division.
I think I kind of have a thing against the British middle classes due to an incredible smugness. Which is silly because I am one of them.
It may just be because my parents read the Daily Mail though!
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The concept of prejudice is beneath my dignity!
I care not for your skin colour, your religion, your sexuality, your nationality or your political orientation.
Neither do I care whether you are a racist or the most tolerant person in the world.
why?
I judge people on how they act, what they do and what they say.
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Chant said: I judge people on how they act, what they do and what they say.
Doesn't that one cover racism?
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Chant said: The concept of prejudice is beneath my dignity!
I care not for your skin colour, your religion, your sexuality, your nationality or your political orientation.
Neither do I care whether you are a racist or the most tolerant person in the world.
why?
I judge people on how they act, what they do and what they say.
I despise people who think they're above prejudice .
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Matter-eater Man said: I think we all have some basic instincts that lead us towards prejudice. How you deal with it is what counts.
I was just going to say that!......... You people are alwayse trying to take my idea. You're alll the same!
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Chant said: The concept of prejudice is beneath my dignity!
I care not for your skin colour, your religion, your sexuality, your nationality or your political orientation.
Neither do I care whether you are a racist or the most tolerant person in the world.
why?
I judge people on how they act, what they do and what they say.
I despise people who think they're above prejudice .
I never said I was above it!
I said that it was beneath my dignity. What I mean by that is that I don't want to be prejudiced.
We're all humans, and by default we're all prejudiced against something.
I despise that in myself
and on another note, you knew damn well what I meant Wednesday, I've told you this repeatedly!
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I judge people on how they act, what they do and what they say.
Doesn't that one cover racism?
I'm not quite sure I'm following you there Steve
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Matter-eater Man said: I think we all have some basic instincts that lead us towards prejudice. How you deal with it is what counts.
Some cognitive psychologists have argued that prejudices are "short hand" ways of processing information about others, especially when more substantive information isn't available about the person.
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If you judge people on how they act and say, presumably you will take account of whether that act/speak in a racist way.
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Some cognitive psychologists have argued that prejudices are "short hand" ways of processing information about others, especially when more substantive information isn't available about the person.
I agree with this, and thus agree with this:
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I don't think it's possible for anyone to be completely without prejudice.
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