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Our focus here is the "What-If" genre of science fiction. What if such-and-such had happened; how would our current history be different?
Our first novel is Fatherland by Robert Harris, which presents a world in which Nazi Germany won World War II. Here's the jacket copy:
Berlin, 1964: Twenty years after Nazi Germany won World War II, Hitler's seventy-fifth birthday celebration is barely a week away. Good Germans throughout the Fatherland are looking forward to the big parades and festivals. Adding to the excitement: an announcement that President Joseph P. Kennedy will visit Berlin to initiate detente with the Reich.
Amid the hoopla, the body of a once-important Nazi official washes up on a river bank--and Detective Xavier March has the bad luck to take the call. March is divorced, disaffected, and more than a little tired of his Nazi masters, but he's too good a cop to let his investigation drop--even after the all-powerful Gestapo orders him to desist. Putting his freedom--and his life--on the line, March enlists the aid of a beautiful American journalist. Together, they unravel a conpiracy that began during World War II and now threatens Hitler's deal with President Kennedy--and the very underpinnings of the Nazi regime.
Fatherland is a breathtaking tour de force, a novel that conjures up a painstakingly detailed and chillingly plausible world. What would have happened had Hitler won? Guerrilla warfare throughout the eastern Soviet Union. An eight-lane autobahn from Berlin to Moscow. England, France, Holland, and the other European countries governed by Nazi puppet regimes. The implementation of "racial purity" laws throughout the continent. The realization of Albert Speer's grandiose architectural plans for a Fatherland meant to rule the world.
With this novel, Robert Harris enters the front ranks of such international suspense writers as Len Deighton, Martin Cruz Smith, and John le Carre. An international success, Fatherland is the most intriguing and talked-about novel of the year.
And yes, there is a movie. It was produced by HBO some years ago. I got it from the library on VHS; not sure if it's available on DVD. You may have to dust off the VCR for this one.
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i hope this is as successful as the other one!
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Has anyone read Fatherland?
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I've read it before. Good book.
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the movie was not very good or true to the novel............thebookwas phenomenal...............it should be required reading for all ungrateful Europeans.
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Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn Suicide remarks are torn From the fool's gold mouthpiece The hollow horn plays wasted words Proves to warn That he not busy being born Is busy dying.
Temptation's page flies out the door You follow, find yourself at war Watch waterfalls of pity roar You feel to moan but unlike before You discover That you'd just be One more person crying.
So don't fear if you hear A foreign sound to your ear It's alright, Ma, I'm only sighing.
As some warn victory, some downfall Private reasons great or small Can be seen in the eyes of those that call To make all that should be killed to crawl While others say don't hate nothing at all Except hatred.
Disillusioned words like bullets bark As human gods aim for their mark Made everything from toy guns that spark To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark It's easy to see without looking too far That not much Is really sacred.
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Advertising signs that con you Into thinking you're the one That can do what's never been done That can win what's never been won Meantime life outside goes on All around you.
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Although the masters make the rules For the wise men and the fools I got nothing, Ma, to live up to.
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When did this become the "quote song lyrics" thread?
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