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I'm having this discussion with a fellow board member, and we disagree. The answer is plain to me, but I wanna know what others say.
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The only way to know for sure is to stick Pariah in a vaccum and let him tell us.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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I don't think that's legal, or even physically possible.
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tan·gi·ble
Discernable by touch, palpable.
Possible to touch.
Possible to be treated as fact, real, or concrete.
Well, you can feel air.... differences in pressure, temperature, humidity, etc. are all very much tangible. Also, air is treated as fact... so, yes. Air is, by all applicable means, tangible.
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Well, everything is "possible to be treated as fact" by someone, so I vote we skip that definition.
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Well if by air you mean stuff like oxigen, hydrogen, and carbon dioxide then yes air is tangible.
Weigh a unflated balloon, then inflate it and weigh it.
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tan·gi·ble
Discernable by touch, palpable.
Possible to touch.
Possible to be treated as fact, real, or concrete.
Well, you can feel air.... differences in pressure, temperature, humidity, etc. are all very much tangible. Also, air is treated as fact... so, yes. Air is, by all applicable means, tangible.
you can't really feel air, you feel wind.
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 I was referring to changes in density, temperature, humidity, etc.
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I would have to say it is tangible. I can walk into a room and feel that the air inside is cooler or warmer than the air outside. I may not be able to touch it as one would a table or even a bucket of water; but I can still feel it.
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I'm flailing my arms around and not touching anything. Ergo, by scientific process of elimination, air is not tangible.
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Are you telling me that your sense of touch is not registering the passing of air around your skin as you quickly move them about?
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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ah, but you can feel the resistance of the air as you flail wildly...
The air is not moving in any definite pattern, yet you feel the resistance. it's tangible.
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I think this is an argument of semantics.
tangible: real, provable
tangible (the more common conception of the word): can be touched, felt.
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tangible (the more common conception of the word): can be touched, felt.
This is the definition I'm using. I can feel temperature. I can feel air passing over my body in certain situations. I can feel a change in pressure of air. Tangible.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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tangible (the more common conception of the word): can be touched, felt.
This is the definition I'm using. I can feel temperature. I can feel air passing over my body in certain situations. I can feel a change in pressure of air. Tangible.
but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
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Ok, what's the difference between air and wind?
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I'm flailing my arms around and not touching anything. Ergo, by scientific process of elimination, air is not tangible.
You're touching air.
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Are you telling me that your sense of touch is not registering the passing of air around your skin as you quickly move them about?
I too find this astounding.
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one is just air... the other is air, in motion. The motion is caused by.... changes in pressure, among other things....
I think.
It's been a while since I've studied meteorology...
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Wind is moving air. My point is also that we truly won't know if we in fact feel air or not without the ability to compare to an environment devoid of it and any other stimuli.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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So what r3x is trying to say is that motion gives air tangibility?
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but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
Humidity and wind do not account for why your ears pop as you ascend in an airplane.
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I gotta also add that you can, in fact, feel the air around you. It's just that you've been feeling it almost nonstop since you exited the womb, so you no longer register the feeling consciously. It's become white noise.
If you don't believe me, walk out into a vacuum, or, even easier, go underwater. You'll notice the difference.
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Why did you have to bring race into this?
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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tangible (the more common conception of the word): can be touched, felt.
This is the definition I'm using. I can feel temperature. I can feel air passing over my body in certain situations. I can feel a change in pressure of air. Tangible.
but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
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but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
Humidity and wind do not account for why your ears pop as you ascend in an airplane.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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Why did you have to bring race into this?
Just keepin' ya on your toes.
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I woulda put this in Deep Thoughts, but I really didn't think it would bring about this much discussion.
(And why am I speaking like a Brit?)
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but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
Okay, so I'm asking you: do you think motion gives air tangibility?
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but that's not the air itself. that's wind, and humidity.
Humidity and wind do not account for why your ears pop as you ascend in an airplane.
that's air pressure (atmosphere shifts), not air itself. you could argue that air is intangible by itself but becomes tangible when shifted suddenly (as in pressure or friction).
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Everything you feel you do because of the pressure it exerts against your skin.
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So you do admit that air does possess a tangibility, tough limited.
Why do you consider static air as not being tangible? Is it because you don't notice it?
I think Wednesday addressed that issue pretty well. I've known people who've lost their glasses because when their glasses had been resting on their head for the past hour. Are you saying eye glasses are also intangible?
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So you do admit that air does possess a tangibility, tough limited.
Why do you consider static air as not being tangible? Is it because you don't notice it?
I think Wednesday addressed that issue pretty well. I've known people who've lost their glasses because when their glasses had been resting on their head for the past hour. Are you saying eye glasses are also intangible?
but we're talking something you can feel on its own. air is there, but intangible unless acted on by something else (pressure, humidity).
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Everything you feel you do because of the pressure it exerts against your skin.
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Ever have a daddy-long legs spider crawling across your arm without you ever knowing it? Does that mean its legs are intangible?
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STOP IT!! Can't you see this air debate is tearing us apart?!
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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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the spider legs are there, you just have to realize that there is no spoon.
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Whatever you all smoked before you started this discussion while staring at the clouds and grinning, I want some. Doc, make sure that I'll get some of it at Drunken*Con.
Is air tangible? Yes. And blow jobs are adultery. And they should be an Olympic sport.
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the spider legs are there, you just have to realize that there is no spoon.
What does shootin' her..... uh...... I mean...... Nice dodge.
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Well if by air you mean stuff like oxigen, hydrogen, and carbon dioxide then yes air is tangible.
Weigh a unflated balloon, then inflate it and weigh it.
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