Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#893451 2007-11-26 3:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 22,618
Your death will make me king!
15000+ posts
OP Offline
Your death will make me king!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 22,618
Yahoo! News

`Tin Man' re-imagines `Wizard of Oz'

By KINNEY LITTLEFIELD, For The Associated Press
Mon Nov 26, 8:44 AM ET

  • LOS ANGELES - No dancing down the yellow brick road for Zooey Deschanel, star of Sci Fi Channel's new Emerald City adaptation, "Tin Man." And no warbling "Over the Rainbow" a la Judy Garland, either.

    "It's postmodern, more like Indiana Jones than a fairy tale," said Deschanel, whose Dorothy — the role immortalized by Garland in "The Wizard of Oz" — is a disaffected, motorcycle-riding waitress called DG.

    Based on L. Frank Baum's novel "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz," which inspired the 1939 film classic, Sci Fi's six-hour "Tin Man" is not a musical but a brooding, special effects-driven fantasy.

    "The book was written in 1900 and its story still lives," said Robert Halmi Sr., one the executive producers.

    "It's a coming-of-age story," Deschanel said of the miniseries airing Dec. 2 through Dec. 4.

    "Here's DG acting out in a teenage way before she gets swept up by the storm," the actress said of her character's ride to the alternate universe of the O.Z., or Outer Zone, on the tail of a Kansas tornado. "Then she's forced to grow up a little bit and find out how brave she is and how smart she is. On this journey, she becomes an adult."

    Along the way DG meets creatures and crises that never crossed Garland's path.

    Still, fans of the 1939 film will recognize the classic scarecrow in zipper-headed Glitch (Alan Cumming), the cowardly lion in the wolverine-human psychic, Raw (Raoul Trujillo), and Dorothy's little dog in the shape-shifter, Toto (Blu Mankuma).

    There's a wizard of sorts in Richard Dreyfuss' vapor-sniffing Mystic Man.

    There's also a yellow brick road, although — in keeping with the O.Z.'s shadowy, retro-futuristic look — it barely glimmers.

    And the title character, ex-cop Wyatt Cain (Neal McDonough), called a tin man for his tin badge, is a far more embittered type than Jack Haley's metal man was in the movie musical.

    Yes, Halmi said, "Tin Man" is a "bit darker. To make a classic understood by young people today you have to talk an entirely different language."

    That language includes a wickedly witchy twist on family ties that "Oz" creator Baum never conjured.

    And the evil sorceress Azkadellia (Kathleen Robertson) gets far more screen time than her predecessor, Margaret Hamilton's cackling Wicked Witch of the West, did in the Garland film.

    "It's a very daunting prospect when you're asked to play one of the most iconic film villainesses in history," Robertson said. "As opposed to playing Azkadellia archetypal and loud, I played her internal and psychological. She's narcissistic. She has every personality disorder that you can figure."

    Although "Tin Man" is loaded with computer-generated creatures and settings, "most of the sets in Azkadellia's world were real," Robertson said.

    "I didn't do a lot of green screen," she said of acting in front of plain backgrounds that are digitally completed in post-production. "I didn't have to imagine what her world was like."

    Robertson also snagged the most glamorous wardrobe in "Tin Man," a clutch of sharply cut gowns with sinuous curves. Her necklines plunge to reveal chest tattoos that morph into flying Mobats, or monkey bats, which do Azkadellia's bidding.

    "You can't be in those costumes and speak casually," Robertson said. "Something our director, Nick Willing, told us was that in the massive, epic world of `Tin Man,' you can't be quiet and small. There has to be ferocity or you'll disappear.

    "So I deepened my voice a little. My performance was slightly stylized and elevated. Whereas Zooey's character is the opposite. She's the one character in the piece where you think, `Oh, that could be me.'"

    It was this normal aura that clinched Deschanel's casting as DG. "I couldn't find anybody else who's so innocent, with eyes so wide open," Halmi said.

    Wide-eyed or no, Deschanel didn't want to reprise Garland's pigtailed Dorothy in "Tin Man."

    "That was such an incredible performance that there's no need to repeat it," she said. "I wanted to make this role my own."

___

On the Web:

http://www.scifi.com

Jason E. Perkins #893463 2007-11-26 4:45 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,009
Inglourious Basterd!!!
15000+ posts
Offline
Inglourious Basterd!!!
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 28,009
Y'lost me at "Sci-Fi Channel."


Uschi said:
I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.

MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!

"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock

[Linked Image from i6.photobucket.com]
Joe Mama #893465 2007-11-26 4:55 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Offline
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
I guess Richard Dreyfus has finally blown all his residuals from "Jaws", "Close Encounters," etc. Too bad.

the G-man #893473 2007-11-26 5:10 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 19,633
I walk in eternity
15000+ posts
Offline
I walk in eternity
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 19,633
The Cowardly Lion looks like a failed Wookie.


"I offer you a Vulcan prayer, Mr Suder. May your

death bring you the peace you never found in

life." - Tuvok.

Beardguy57 #893559 2007-11-26 10:47 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 9,769
cookie monster
7500+ posts
Offline
cookie monster
7500+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 9,769
I dunno - this looks kinda interesting...



Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi

harleykwin #893600 2007-11-27 1:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385
Likes: 1
Regenerated
15000+ posts
Offline
Regenerated
15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385
Likes: 1
I'm willing to give it at least a single viewing. I like all the actors involved, and Zooey is silky...

Prometheus #893615 2007-11-27 4:01 AM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
rex Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
I'm gonna give it a try.


November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
Joe Mama #894030 2007-11-28 10:20 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,958
some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?
5000+ posts
Offline
some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?
5000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,958
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
Y'lost me at "Sci-Fi Channel."




Same here.

whomod #894262 2007-11-29 3:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Offline
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Been seeing the adverts for this for months now. Looks like it could be interesting.



whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
thedoctor #894263 2007-11-29 3:28 AM
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,433
Likes: 8
brother from another mother
15000+ posts
Offline
brother from another mother
15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 19,433
Likes: 8

Jason E. Perkins #895139 2007-12-02 2:04 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Offline
Officially "too old for this shit"
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 43,951
Likes: 6
AICN has a roundup of reviews from around the country for this miniseries. The general consensus seems to be a good cast (Zooey: ) and a "meh" story.

If anyone's still interested, remember that it starts tonight.

Joe Mama #895143 2007-12-02 2:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,153
Unbreakable
3000+ posts
Offline
Unbreakable
3000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,153
 Originally Posted By: Joe Mama
Y'lost me at "Sci-Fi Channel."




I was lost at "post-modern" and "special effects-driven".

I'm going to read the books instead.


"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller

"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
-Conan the Barbarian

"Well, yeah."
-Jason E. Perkins

"If I had a dime for every time Pariah was right about something I'd owe twenty cents."
-Ultimate Jaburg53

"Fair enough. I defer to your expertise."
-Prometheus

Rack MisterJLA!
Captain Sweden #895310 2007-12-03 5:16 AM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
rex Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Typical sci-fi channel crap. Calling everything by their initials made my want to vomit.


November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
rex #895352 2007-12-03 8:14 AM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,958
some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?
5000+ posts
Offline
some RKMB'ers are Obsessed with Black People Hmmm?
5000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,958
So how was it?

Was it the postmodern Wizard Of Oz I dream of?

Let's breakdown the Tin man to it's essence. Here's a guy with no heart, made out of metal who wields an axe.

Am I the only one who sees cold blooded killer cyborg?

whomod #895355 2007-12-03 8:36 AM
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
rex Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Offline
Who will I break next?
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
He was a Ray Liotta wanna be ex cop who was stuck in a tin suit for years while he watched his family get beat over and over again by people dressed as rejects from the last sci-fi crap fest movie.


November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
rex #895357 2007-12-03 9:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 18,080
He tastes of America
15000+ posts
Offline
He tastes of America
15000+ posts
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 18,080
...AND THERE ARE TWO MORE PARTS!!!

whoop-dee-shit.

I agree with the general consensus on the rumor sites... approve the Caprica prequel and keep the mini-series crap to a minimum. Not even an annual event. And don't be afraid to try original shit like The Lost Room.

But we all know that ain't ever gonna happen.


He fixes the cable?
TK-069 #895376 2007-12-03 1:16 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Offline
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Saw the replay. Too much emphasis on trying to be 'grown-up' and 'dark' rather than telling a good story. Munchkins turned into Indian-esque Ewoks. They had a good cast and a few good ideas, but the material just wasn't up to snuff. They should have realized that the original novel was pretty dark to begin with and stuck a lot closer to it.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
thedoctor #895778 2007-12-04 7:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 22,618
Your death will make me king!
15000+ posts
OP Offline
Your death will make me king!
15000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 22,618
Anything new after seeing the second ep?

thedoctor #895793 2007-12-04 8:29 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 680
=
500+ posts
Offline
=
500+ posts
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 680
 Originally Posted By: thedoctor
Saw the replay. Too much emphasis on trying to be 'grown-up' and 'dark' rather than telling a good story. Munchkins turned into Indian-esque Ewoks. They had a good cast and a few good ideas, but the material just wasn't up to snuff. They should have realized that the original novel was pretty dark to begin with and stuck a lot closer to it.


100% agree...you took the words out of my mouth

Sonhaven #896514 2007-12-06 4:29 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 19,633
I walk in eternity
15000+ posts
Offline
I walk in eternity
15000+ posts
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 19,633
Tin Man

The Enterprise encounters a "living" ship in the Neutral Zone, and risks breaking the Romulan Federation alliance in order to bring it into contact with a Betazoid emissary.

That was a great episode.

I watched a little of the Sci Fi channel " Tin Man" thing and it sucked.


"I offer you a Vulcan prayer, Mr Suder. May your

death bring you the peace you never found in

life." - Tuvok.

Beardguy57 #981054 2008-07-15 3:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,753
the Offline
Ignored by 3 users and 2 moderators
4000+ posts
Offline
Ignored by 3 users and 2 moderators
4000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,753
King Snarf User 7500+ posts Mon Jul 14 2008 11:59 PM Viewing a list of posts
Forum: PJP's Random Chat and Insurgency Roast

Beardguy57 #1003476 2008-09-12 1:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,753
the Offline
Ignored by 3 users and 2 moderators
4000+ posts
Offline
Ignored by 3 users and 2 moderators
4000+ posts
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,753
MisterJLA talkative Moderator Epic Take Maker
15000+ posts Thu Sep 11 2008 10:18 PM Checking who's online

the #1003513 2008-09-12 12:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Offline
Timelord. Drunkard.
15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
It still sucks.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5