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I think it is actually a pretty good read. I know many here disagree with PJB on a lot, but I think this is one that many will agree with him about.


http://buchanan.org/blog/2009/01/pjb-obamas-choice-fdr-or-reagan/

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PJB: Obama’s Choice: FDR or Reagan

By Patrick J. Buchanan

Barack Obama, it is said, will inherit the worst times since the Great Depression. Not to minimize the crisis we are in, but we need a little perspective here.

The Great Depression began with the Great Crash of 1929. By 1931, unemployment had reached 16 percent.

By 1933, 89 percent of stock value had been wiped out, the economy had shrunk by one-third, thousands of banks had closed, a third of the money supply had vanished, and unemployment had reached 25 percent — among heads of households. And in those days, there was no unemployment insurance, no Medicare, no Medicaid, no Social Security, no welfare.

FDR’s answer: vast federal spending, tough new regulations on business and higher taxes — like Herbert Hoover before him, only more so.

The Depression lasted until war orders from the Allies brought U.S. industry back to life. Before 1940, not once did unemployment fall below 14 percent. In May 1939, Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau testified:

“We are spending more money than we have ever spent before, and it does not work. … I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. … I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started … and an enormous debt, to boot.”

Politically, the New Deal was a smashing success, with FDR’s landslides in 1932, 1934 and 1936 virtually wiping out the GOP.

Yet, economically, the New Deal was a bust, failing utterly to restore prosperity. Despite the indoctrination of generations of schoolchildren in New Deal propaganda, that is the hard truth.

Consider, now, how Ronald Reagan responded to the economic crisis of 1980, the worst since the Depression. In the “stagflation” of that Jimmy Carter era, interest rates had reached 21 percent and inflation 13 percent.

Reagan’s answer was the tight money policy of Fed Chairman Paul Volcker and across-the-board tax cuts of 25 percent, while slashing the highest rates from 70 percent to 28 percent.

While unemployment hit 10 percent in 1982 and Reagan lost 26 House seats, in 1983 the tax cuts kicked in.

From there on out, it was boom times until Reagan rode off into the sunset, having created 20 million new jobs. “The Seven Fat Years,” author Robert Bartley called them.

Reagan had followed the lead of Warren Harding and Cal Coolidge, who had cut Woodrow Wilson’s wartime tax rates of near 70 percent to 25 percent, resulting in “The Roaring ’20s,” a time of unrivaled prosperity.

The JFK tax cuts of the 1960s, also a Reagan model, were equally successful.

Harding, Coolidge, JFK and Reagan all bet on the private sector as the engine of prosperity. All succeeded. Franklin Roosevelt bet on government. And the New Deal failed. It was World War II that pulled the United States out of the Depression ditch of the 1930s.

Comes now the financial collapse and economic crisis of 2008, inherited by Obama, with 40 percent of all stock values wiped out in a year, foreclosures pandemic, and unemployment near 7 percent and surging.

In crafting his solutions, Obama seems to be brushing aside the Reagan, JFK and Harding-Coolidge models, and channeling FDR and the New Deal Democrats.

Already staring at a $1.2 trillion dollar deficit for the year ending Sept. 30, about 8 percent of the entire U.S. economy, Obama intends to add a stimulus package of $700 billion to $1 trillion, yet another 5 percent to 7 percent of gross domestic product. The resulting deficit would be twice as large as Reagan’s largest, 6 percent of GDP, which was the largest since World War II.

And how is this Niagara of money to be spent?

Hundreds of billions will go out in checks of $500 to $1,000 to wage-earners and individuals who do not even pay taxes. This is much like the George McGovern “demogrant” program of 1972, where every man, woman and child, if memory serves, was to get a $1,000 check from the U.S. government.

Other hundreds of billions will go to shore up state and municipal spending. Other hundreds of billions will go for “infrastructure” projects, another name for earmarks, which is a synonym for pork.

Now, as Obama does not intend to raise taxes, at least now, he is going to have to borrow this near $2 trillion from foreigners or U.S. taxpayers, or the Fed will have to create the money. Undeniably, this will have an impact upon the economy. But what will that impact be?

Where in history, other than World War II, is there evidence that such a mass infusion of spending restored prosperity?

Obama and the Democrats are taking a historic gamble, not only with their careers but with the country. If this monstrous stimulus package, plus the trillions in hot money, do not work; if the two ignite rampant inflation, rather than real growth, we are all out of options. The toolbox is empty.

And what will follow may truly resemble the 1930s.

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Just go away. There's already enough tards here.


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Anyone with a shred of intelligence knows better than to listen anything that racist homophobe has to say. Stop being brain washed and learn to think for yourself.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Just go away. There's already enough tards here.


Myself and many here would love it if you would go away, rex.

You bitter sock-fucking troll retard.


 Originally Posted By: rex
Anyone with a shred of intelligence knows better than to listen anything that racist homophobe has to say. Stop being brain washed and learn to think for yourself.


Buchanan qualifies as infinitely less brainwashed than you. He's an outsider in the Republican party because he does think for himself. And if you'd read any of his last four books DEATH OF THE WEST (2002), WHERE THE RIGHT WENT WRONG(2004), STATE OF EMERGENCY (2006) and DAY OF RECKONING (2007), you'd know that.

When I see the word racist, I mentally substitute: slander with emotionally charged label of a conservative by his enemies, since they have no intelligent argument or evidence to dispute his views.

Buchanan has been slandered by his liberal enemies, to throw anything said by him in a dismissive category. Despite his well-researched and valid arguments.
Slanderous liberal rhetoric and catch-phrases swallowed whole by schmucks like you.

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Thanks for proving my point.


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And:


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Thanks for proving my point.


Thanks for once again proving you're a troll, who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

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And you do? You blindly follow this guy like he's the next massiah. You're just as bad as all the obamanauts.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Just go away. There's already enough tards here.


I almost want to post "I win again." But, when all it takes is a single post to make you lose your shit and break like this, it almost makes you pitiable.

Don't worry, Rex. I'm not going anywhere.

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You think you broke me? Look who's defending you in this thread. You are now and will always be my bitch.


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Keep trying, Rexy. I don't need Wonder Boy (who, by the way, was defending Buchanan) to fight my battles. There are no battles. I post. You break and bitch about how you want me to leave.

Game.

Set.

Match.

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You and wondy think the same about buchanan. That means both of you are the same.




How does your insurgency butt buddies feel about that?


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 Originally Posted By: rex
And you do? You blindly follow this guy like he's the next massiah. You're just as bad as all the obamanauts.


I might have taken you halfway seriously if you'd spelled messiah correctly.

You're everybody's bitch here, rex.

I like a good percentage of what Buchanan has to say, but I also disagree with him on some issues. That hardly qualifies as "worship".

For example, the auto bailout. Buchanan advocates saving the industry to save millions of jobs for blue collar America. But I see that as continuing to subsidize an industry that will use the subsidy to remain inefficient, and is bound to fail anyway, at whatever point the subsidies end. It just prolongs the process with false security.
The only way for the industry to change is to declare bankruptcy, so they can escape all the union contractual obligations that render the U.S. auto manufacturers unable to compete with Japanese manufacturers. Getting out of their contractual obligations to excessive union demands would allow U.S. auto manufacturers to truly reform and become efficient.

(I would be more threatened by Japanese auto manufacturers, if they didn't have manufacturing facilities in the U.S., that create U.S. jobs and taxable individual and corporate income inside the U.S.)

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Retards unite! Quickly, get g-man, snarf, jermey and the others! To the special meeting place! Its time to coordinate the attack!


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rex is a good guy.. just angry!

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He's so dumb, it takes him an hour and a half to watch "60 Minutes"!

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Shut up Rex nobody takes you seriously. Your just like that nigger that just got chosen in the most recent sham election. Its sad to see inferior ethnic groups like Mexicans and niggers being allowed to illegally inflate the the numbers in MY COUNTRY! No we have some radical Muslim terrorist nigger whose gonna ruin our once great nation.

Pat Buchanan is all that stands between the grand ol' U.S. and these uppity minorities who think they deserve our rights. So you show him some goddamn respect rexy.

And as for Obama, as far as I am concerned,



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 Originally Posted By: Wonder_Boy
Shut up Rex nobody takes you seriously. Your just like that nigger that just got chosen in the most recent sham election. Its sad to see inferior ethnic groups like Mexicans and niggers being allowed to illegally inflate the the numbers in MY COUNTRY! No we have some radical Muslim terrorist nigger whose gonna ruin our once great nation.


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Official Admits: Stimulus Projects Not Chosen for Job Creation

  • SYRACUSE NY--President Barack Obama claims that the federal stimulus program is designed to create or save jobs. But at least one government official now says that's not how projects are chosen.

    According to the Syracuse (NY) Post-Standard, Sally Rockey, an acting deputy director at the National Institutes of Health, has admitted that the agency does not choose projects based on the jobs they would create:
    The National Institutes of Health, the country's top research agency, is awarding recovery money to projects proposed long before the recession. With $8 billion extra dollars to spend on research, agency officials went back to the list of projects that had been turned down.

    They looked for projects that could be done in two years, with no special emphasis on job creation and no requirement that the scientists buy equipment made in America.


    Locally, the federally-funded projects, the paper reports, include the sort of projects typically labeled as "pork," including:
    *$162,000 for a study that sends college students into the wild to collect ticks and plant them on lab mice.

    *$783,000 for a study that invites 100 malt liquor and marijuana users in Buffalo to call in and punch numbers on the telephone to record their habits each day.

    *$70,000-$130,000 for a Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs professor to study the health consequences of teenage childbirth.

    *$109,000 to study schizophrenia on the Pacific Island of Palau.

    *$3 million in equipment -- all manufactured in Germany and Japan--for Cornell University.


    According to the article, the scientists receiving the grants were reluctant to discuss specifics and money regarding their projects, and at least one was "defensive about explaining how his grant ... would stimulate the economy."

    It is not known how much of a role politics may have played in the selection process for the grants. However, studies show that employees of academia tend to vote (and donate) Democratic in overwhelming numbers. Therefore, it is quite possible that the selection of projects that have little, if anything, to do with job creation is simply an attempt by the Obama White House to repay supporters.


Not surprising that this is all about pork and special favors to Obama. More surprising is that someone in his administration would let slip and admit it.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
*$783,000 for a study that invites 100 malt liquor and marijuana users in Buffalo to call in and punch numbers on the telephone to record their habits each day.


Does the federal gov't provide the malt liquor and weed? If so, I want in on this bailout.

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*$783,000 for a study that invites 100 malt liquor and marijuana users in Buffalo to call in and punch numbers on the telephone to record their habits each day.


Does the federal gov't provide the malt liquor and weed? If so, I want in on this bailout.



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Today Joe Biden argues that the stimulus bill is misunderstood. He writes: "the act was intended to provide steady support for our economy over an extended period — not a jolt that would last only a few months."

However:
  • As recently as June, at a roundtable in New York, Biden called the Recovery Act "an initial big jolt to give the economy a real head start.''

    In March, the vice president said ''the Recovery Act, as we call it, provides a necessary jolt to our economy to implement what we refer as 'shovel-ready' projects.''

    And in November, as a new White House in planning was assembling its new economic team, President-elect Barack Obama said: "The most important thing to recognize is that we have a consensus, which is pretty rare, between conservative economists and liberal economists, that we need a big stimulus package that will jolt the economy back into shape and that is focused on the 2.5 million jobs that I intend to create during the first part of my administration. We have to put people back to work."


Oops!

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Does Biden really even know what he is saying most of the time?

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Having been a Senator for over thirty years (and, basically, his own boss), Biden can't handle trying to parrot--and keep straight in his head--all the various Obama lies talking points.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man of Zur-En-Arrh
Having been a Senator for over thirty years (and, basically, his own boss), Biden can't handle trying to parrot--and keep straight in his head--all the various Obama lies.



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So Much for Those Stimulus Funds: Tens of thousands of unsafe or decaying bridges carrying 100 million drivers a day must wait for repairs because states are spending stimulus money on spans that are already in good shape or on easier projects like repaving roads, an Associated Press analysis shows.

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Stimulus creates only 3.5 jobs in (NY Southern) Tier's 10 counties: In the 10 counties of the Binghamton-Elmira-Ithaca region, contracts for federal projects have created the equivalent of 3.5 jobs.

Wow. Less than one job per county. Those billions are being well spent.

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this Obama guy is a economic genius.

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According to the article, nationwide for $16,000,000,000 (that’s billions with a “B”) they “created” 30,000 jobs ....for a net cost of approximately $533,333.33 per job.


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