|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
|
OP
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308 |
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Timelord. Drunkard. 15000+ posts
|
|
Timelord. Drunkard. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593 |
Yeah, I'd read that the network's been down since last Wednesday. Now we know why.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
They revealed a couple days ago that somebody hacked the admin accounts for the network.
Anywho, how is this a Sony fuck up?
Every time someone gets hacked, it's their own fault?
I'm more curious about who could have done this. Anonymous is the most likely culprit even though they say they're not responsible for it. But I suppose that it could be someone capitalizing on Anonymous' current temper tantrum to draw attention away from their digital trail.
But....Nah. It's probably Anonymous.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
|
|
OP
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308 |
Every time someone gets hacked, it's their own fault?
yes
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593
Timelord. Drunkard. 15000+ posts
|
|
Timelord. Drunkard. 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 24,593 |
I'd have to agree with rex on this one. If you're going to pool people's information like that, you're responsible to keep it safe.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
I didn't say they weren't responsible for keeping info safe. I'm saying that there's nothing to suggest their security was sub-par. Granted I don't know how beefed up their security is, but neither does anyone else making the claim that this is entirely their fault.
No system is unhackable. I mean, you think this couldn't happen to XBL? In which case, if it could, wouldn't that mean they're being negligent simply by the mere act of consolidating consumer information on their network?
If this happened to Microsoft, lord knows I'd be rubbing it in the X-bots' faces over at Gamespot just because they have penchant for spinning any scenario in the negative for rival companies. But in all seriousness, I wouldn't necessarily be holding Microsoft responsible. It's impractical to blame them for being hacked simply because they were hacked.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,801
terrible podcaster 15000+ posts
|
|
terrible podcaster 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,801 |
But....Nah. It's probably Anonymous. FREE WEEV!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,625
Sikkbones 1500+ posts
|
|
Sikkbones 1500+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,625 |
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/
I'm glad I only use those prepaid PSN cards. me too.. if and when if it ever omes back online... feel free to add sikkbones... just got a ps3.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
|
|
OP
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308 |
comes*
And no one wants to add you. We get enough sikktard here.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
Actually, George Hotz proved that Sony has piss-poor security for this generation, in the sense that they only need to decrypt a single key and they will be able to run any code they want on the PS3 like it was officially signed software.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
Now now. The system turned out more resilient than it's competition to be sure. 360 was hacked and conditioned for pirated software within months. It took the better part of the generation thus far for someone like Hotz to find the weakness in the PS3's code to do something similar.
So really: "piss-poor" compared to what?
Don't get me wrong though. It's a valid point. Variable declarations should be a tad more creative.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
piss poor compared to the other consoles from its generation  The other consoles, before you could pirate games, you need to crack the encryption (or find a way to run the copy) per title. With the PS3, you just need the encryption key for your console and you can burn any title you want and it will run like an officially licensed copy. The only deterrent to piracy is that downloading 50gb dumps would be more trouble than just buying a 2nd hand copy. And that's just for pirating titles. With the other consoles, you can't go online without risking your console from being outed (and bricked/updated?). With the PS3, there's no way for Sony to find out if the console that's online has illegal code running on it (including non-game ones, like say, a rootkit that will help an individual access their servers), since the approach is not "trick the console into thinking that my unlicensed code is official" BUT "turn my code into an official one".
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
BTW, the PSP-3000 uses the same type of security, which led to the HEN exploit being updated into something that works 100% everytime you run it.
P.S.
I'm Asian. Piracy is my area of expertise.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
You have a very good point, though. The hackers had a bit of a problem with exploiting the PS3. Took them some time, compared to the other consoles.
The problem was just that Sony's engineers probably didn't expect their ingenious security to be cracked, and had no plan Bs (which was stupid on their part. Everything gets cracked, especially now).
As soon as the doors were opened, they had no easy way of closing it again (even recalling the consoles and changing things at the hardware level could have negative results, as it means old titles will not work on new consoles without updating the games as well)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1
Regenerated 15000+ posts
|
|
Regenerated 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1 |
piss poor compared to the other consoles from its generation The other consoles, before you could pirate games, you need to crack the encryption (or find a way to run the copy) per title. With the PS3, you just need the encryption key for your console and you can burn any title you want and it will run like an officially licensed copy. The only deterrent to piracy is that downloading 50gb dumps would be more trouble than just buying a 2nd hand copy. And that's just for pirating titles. With the other consoles, you can't go online without risking your console from being outed (and bricked/updated?). With the PS3, there's no way for Sony to find out if the console that's online has illegal code running on it (including non-game ones, like say, a rootkit that will help an individual access their servers), since the approach is not "trick the console into thinking that my unlicensed code is official" BUT "turn my code into an official one". ...someone programs for a living...  I'm Asian. Piracy is my area of expertise. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
|
|
OP
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308 |
I just got an e-mail from Sony saying that my account may have been hacked. Its good that they care enough to send an e-mail a week after they got hacked.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
...someone programs for a living... ....Or just uses Linux.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,801
terrible podcaster 15000+ posts
|
|
terrible podcaster 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 17,801 |
don't question pro's knowledge of hacking! the iconolasts made that mistake and they suffered for it. oh, did they suffer...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1
Regenerated 15000+ posts
|
|
Regenerated 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1 |
don't question pro's knowledge of hacking! the iconolasts made that mistake and they suffered for it. oh, did they suffer...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1
Regenerated 15000+ posts
|
|
Regenerated 15000+ posts
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 33,385 Likes: 1 |
http://the360gamers.com/forums/xbox-360-discussion/32371-every-single-banned-xbox-unbanned.html http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428614360gamers.com users and Neogaf users are reporting a networking error on Microsoft's Live service end which has unbanned all previously banned consoles. Misery loves company, eh Sony?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
|
|
Society's Discontent 6000+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 7,040 Likes: 24 |
http://www.wherethefuckdidourforumgo.com http://the360gamers.com/forums/xbox-360-discussion/32371-every-single-banned-xbox-unbanned.html http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428614360gamers.com users and Neogaf users are reporting a networking error on Microsoft's Live service end which has unbanned all previously banned consoles. Misery loves company, eh Sony?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,625
Sikkbones 1500+ posts
|
|
Sikkbones 1500+ posts
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,625 |
i await the "nintendo's online is now the best online" comments.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
|
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
Nintendo's online service had a security breach and my amazing Mario Kart score was leaked.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
his amazing pirated Mario Kart score.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
|
|
devil-lovin' Bat-Man 15000+ posts
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 33,919 |
Actually I have a legal copy of Mario Kart, since I wanted to have the wheel.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
Your wheel obsession is tearing the boards apart!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
|
|
OP
Who will I break next? 15000+ posts
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 46,308 |
Central components of the “Welcome Back” program will include:
Each territory will be offering selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download. Specific details of this content will be announced in each region soon.
All existing PlayStation Network customers will be provided with 30 days free membership in the PlayStation Plus premium service. Current members of PlayStation Plus will receive 30 days free service.
Music Unlimited powered by Qriocity subscribers (in countries where the service is available) will receive 30 days free service. Its what I expected they would do. I'm hoping the free download isn't something shitty and they give us a choice. I don't care much about PSN plus and music service.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
|
|
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15 |
This deserved its own thread...
"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?" [center] ![[Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/captainsammitch/boards/banners/blogban3.jpg) [/center] [center] ![[Linked Image from i13.photobucket.com]](http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a275/captainsammitch/boards/banners/jlamiska.jpg) [/center]
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
|
|
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15 |
"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?" [center] [/center] [center] [/center]
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
This isn't rough for me at all since I've never been stupid enough to attach my debit card to such networks. I just feel sorry for the retards who do put their financial info on unaccountable networks....JLA.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820
cobra kai 15000+ posts
|
|
cobra kai 15000+ posts
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820 |
the video game debate has finally reached the issue truest to every fanboy's heart: "my console's information is more secure than yours". coupled with the might of web article links where the internet agrees, some spirited and defensive "nuh uh!"s for retorts, a punctuated laughy emoticon sprinkled here and there, a graphic or comic book-style representation of your feelings (optional), bake for 2 hours (pro!) and we're golden.
the era of political rivalry and green lantern division are over. rise, gamer fanboy security force!
one can only hope each combatant is boldly and proudly wearing a t-shirt of their respective corporation, amongst a field of company pennants, whilst assuring colleagues that, despite staying up all night to prepare additional statements, and /or research the competitor's previous comments, they don't take it too seriously. "it's the other guy."
my friends... welcome!
giant picture
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
|
|
The conscience of the rkmbs! 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 30,833 Likes: 7 |
Basically.
Right now, a bunch of amateur server gurus are commenting on all these 'PSN breach' articles trying to make credible commentary on contrasts between Sony's and Microsoft's security.
JLA has become a pretty good example of this: "My lord god Microsoft didn't suffer a breach! Their security is miles ahead of Sony's!"
These retards don't know jack shit about either one's security and yet they pick and choose between either one based on their own anecdotal expertise.
I, personally, have no fucking clue what kind of servers Sony or Microsoft are using--nor do I know what kind of software they use to secure them. As such, I will never in a million years attach my financial info on either network.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
ladies and gentlemen... "the message board!"
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
|
|
Son of Anarchist 15000+ posts
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 17,853 Likes: 3 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
|
|
"Hey this is PCG342's bro..." 15000+ posts
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 34,236 Likes: 15 |
Basically.
Right now, a bunch of amateur server gurus are commenting on all these 'PSN breach' articles trying to make credible commentary on contrasts between Sony's and Microsoft's security.
JLA has become a pretty good example of this: "My lord god Microsoft didn't suffer a breach! Their security is miles ahead of Sony's!"
These retards don't know jack shit about either one's security and yet they pick and choose between either one based on their own anecdotal expertise.
I, personally, have no fucking clue what kind of servers Sony or Microsoft are using--nor do I know what kind of software they use to secure them. As such, I will never in a million years attach my financial info on either network. The meltdown continues!
"Are you eating it...or is it eating you?" [center] [/center] [center] [/center]
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820
cobra kai 15000+ posts
|
|
cobra kai 15000+ posts
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 45,820 |
ladies and gentlemen... "the message board!" heh.
giant picture
|
|
|
|
|
