"On Aug. 29, the Boston Globe reported that Palin was open to teaching creationism in public schools. That's true. She supports teaching creationism alongside evolution, though she has not actively pursued such a policy as governor."
So yes, the evangelical idiots DO finally have someone to vote for. Either Mrs. Palin is a closet creationist or she's gullible and uneducated enough to believe that there's some sort of "controversy" about evolution.
"On Aug. 29, the Boston Globe reported that Palin was open to teaching creationism in public schools. That's true. She supports teaching creationism alongside evolution, though she has not actively pursued such a policy as governor."
So yes, the evangelical idiots DO finally have someone to vote for. Either Mrs. Palin is a closet creationist or she's gullible and uneducated enough to believe that there's some sort of "controversy" about evolution.
she isnt a closet "creationist" only far left retards think people are ashamed to know evolution is pure BS.
So if she's not a pig, why is she squealing like one?
Because she has a cock in her ass?
Which, by the way, would be HAWT if true.
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
"On Aug. 29, the Boston Globe reported that Palin was open to teaching creationism in public schools. That's true. She supports teaching creationism alongside evolution, though she has not actively pursued such a policy as governor."
So yes, the evangelical idiots DO finally have someone to vote for. Either Mrs. Palin is a closet creationist or she's gullible and uneducated enough to believe that there's some sort of "controversy" about evolution.
So you're bitching that she has her own views, would like them to be expressed in the public school system, but she didn't force the issue or force it upon anyone else? Maybe if she'd tried to force it into the public curriculum, I'd see you point; but, as it stands, you're just bitching to be bitching.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
Republican Rep. Candice S. Miller says Barack Obama had only one shot at Palin-proofing the Democratic ticket — and he missed it when he passed over Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.
“Every woman in America knows what Barack Obama did to Hillary Clinton: He looked at her and thought, ‘There’s no way I’m doing that,’” said Miller. “If Hillary was on the ticket, he’d be in a much better position to win women voters.”
Sarah Palin’s presence — coupled with Clinton’s absence — may be altering one of the great verities of American politics: that women voters overwhelmingly favor Democrats.
A Washington Post-ABC News poll released this week showed white women swinging hard against the Democratic ticket. Obama left Denver with an 8-point lead among white women; by the time John McCain pulled out of St. Paul, Minn., with Palin at his side, he had taken a 12-point lead.
Former Clinton strategist and pollster Mark Penn on Tuesday said that it’s too soon to know where women will wind up in November, and he declined to engage in any “woulda, coulda, shoulda” speculation about how things might be different if Clinton were on the Democratic ticket.
But another former Clinton adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the “Obama people have got to be kicking themselves” for not putting choosing Clinton as his No. 2.
Julia Piscitelli of the American University’s Women and Politics Institute agreed.
“I don’t think Palin would be seeing these kind of gains if Hillary was on the ticket,” she said. “When Obama picked Biden, it gave Republicans an opening, and they are taking full advantage of it. ... The question is: How long will it last?”
The answer, some Democrats say, is not long.
“I don’t think this is a real swing [in the polls] until it’s been a week, said Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), one of Obama’s busiest female surrogates. “We’ll need to see whether Sarah Palin is willing to answer questions. ... No one will be a stronger advocate for Barack Obama and Joe Biden than Hillary Clinton.”
Sen. Blanche L. Lincoln (D-Ark.) also sounded the Palin-will-wilt-in-the-spotlight theme.
“Sarah Palin delivered a great speech, but we haven’t heard anything else about what she’s going to do,” Lincoln said. “American women are smart, they’re bright and this election isn’t just about Sarah Palin. This is about what they want to do for the country.”
The Obama campaign has denied that it has a serious problem with female voters.
On Monday, campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, “Your poll is wrong,” adding, “We certainly are not seeing any movement like that. Polls, time to time, particularly on the demographic stuff, can have some pretty wild swings.”
That view won support from two unlikely sources Tuesday: Penn and a Republican senator who backs the McCain-Palin ticket.
Penn said that women are going to be “the absolute swing vote in this campaign, and it’s not clear which direction they are going to go in.
“I don’t think it’s a Hillary backlash we’re seeing,” he added. “With Palin on the ticket, we’re going to be seeing this thing swing back and forth.”
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), who has had a strained relationship with her state’s governor, downplayed Palin’s power. “I find it difficult to believe that many of the Hillary supporters are going to come over just because of Sarah Palin,” Murkowski said. “It should be about strength of positions” and policy.
But Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is locked in a tough race of her own, says several women — former Clinton supporters — have come up to her in Maine to say Palin gives them a reason to back McCain.
“I have never seen such excitement in the Republican Party as we’re seeing in response to Sarah Palin,” Collins said. “I’ve had a lot of Democrats and independent women in Maine who say they’re happy to see a woman on the ticket. Many of them saw an Obama-Clinton ticket as unbeatable. ... That is significant and remarkable.”
Quinnipiac University Polling Institute Assistant Director Peter A. Brown said the Obama campaign is fooling itself if it discounts the importance of the problem. “This isn’t about Hillary; it’s about Obama’s problem with white women voters,” he said. “Hillary won about 10 million votes from women voters in the Democratic primaries — there are 52 million women voting in the general election.”
Clinton has said she’ll hit the road for Obama, but her team says she refuses to be an anti-Palin “attack dog.” Further complicating matters for Obama, Hillaryland fundraiser Susie Tompkins Buell is leading a group that will fight media sexism against the Alaska governor.
my favorite part of the story:
Quote:
On Monday, campaign manager David Plouffe told a Washington Post reporter, “Your poll is wrong,”
In all seriousness, I'm inclined to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was not an intentional attack on Palin, but simply another example of how he tends to flub his remarks when they aren't carefully scripted.
However, I must admit to enjoying the irony of watching the Democrat Party, after years of race baiting and faking sexism charges to the point where we all have to watch what we see most of the time, getting hoisted on a petard of their own creation.
What does that say of the right that they have quickly siezed on the comment when it's politically advantagous?
I am surprised that this is really has some traction but people seem to be really pissed at his comment. I could understand if Palin was unattractive or overweight but she's not.
I'll also have to admit to seeing some irony at having Obama who said he was troubled at the Clintons when it was politically advantagous to do so. What goes comes around.
And points have to go to McCain. He very early on hit people on his side who emphasized Obama's middle name so he has some credability in going after Obama on this.
Whomever you are for in this election you have to give the McCain campaign manager some serious credit, the lured Obama's into thinking they were going to make this a campaign about experience and lured Obama into choosing a Washington insider for VP, then they hit Obama on his strength which was change by making a VP choice that is actually a huge change. Obama was never going to win the experience debate no matter who he picked as VP, but he let McCain battle him on the change front, and McCain doesn't have to win the change debate, just offer enough attrition to swing some states.
And, even then, I think the whole idea of "change" is something of a misnomer.
People might want a "change" from Bush but that's due more to his seeming lack of attention to a number of problems and inability to demonstrate competency in various areas. I don't think it's a call for socializing the economy or surrendering overseas, as the Democrats seem to think.
It's a call for someone who has the experience and seeming smarts to do what he says he'll do. And, unfortunately for Obama, he looks more and more like a lightweight all the time.
Right people want not Bush, and despite Obama's hammering of McCain is Bush, people have over a decade of common knowledge that McCain has been a thorn in the side of Bush and the Republican establishment, if anything McCain's "brand" has always been that he is a Maverick and repetition otherwise isnt gunna break that. Obama needs to try and define himself rather than try and pigeon hole McCain in a way people dont buy.
In all seriousness, I'm inclined to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was not an intentional attack on Palin, but simply another example of how he tends to flub his remarks when they aren't carefully scripted.
However, I must admit to enjoying the irony of watching the Democrat Party, after years of race baiting and faking sexism charges to the point where we all have to watch what we see most of the time, getting hoisted on a petard of their own creation.
What does that say of the right that they have quickly siezed on the comment when it's politically advantagous?
I am surprised that this is really has some traction but people seem to be really pissed at his comment. I could understand if Palin was unattractive or overweight but she's not.
I'll also have to admit to seeing some irony at having Obama who said he was troubled at the Clintons when it was politically advantagous to do so. What goes comes around.
And points have to go to McCain. He very early on hit people on his side who emphasized Obama's middle name so he has some credability in going after Obama on this.
How would you feel if McCain said " You can take the monkey out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the monkey."?
It's an old expression and figure of speech. But when your opponent is black it doesn't make sense to use it. I think he knew what he was doing when he said the "pig" comment and he was prepared to try and fight the next day they way he is today. I think that whoever is running his campaign is going to lose it for him if they keep this up. Whether he meant it or not it was a really stupid comment. They talk about what they are going to say at these stump speeches before they do it and I'm sure that the saying was brought up. You're telling me not one adviser including Barack thought that it was a bad idea to say that? They fucked up. Palin has them reeling and they don't know how to fight this momentum.
the comment was a way to pacify the loony lefties like whomod and those nutjob blogs he quotes. with the comment he could call her a pig to them, and the next day claim it was an old expression to the mainstream. to the general populations credit, no one is buying his crap this time. it's going to be fun watching how he responds to the general public seeing through him more and more...
According to Reuters John McCain and Sarah Palin drew a campaign record 23,000 supporters at a stop in Fairfax, Virginia today. Further proof that McCain’s choice of Gov. Palin was a great choice.
The Ledger Independent in Maysville, Kentucky is running a poll on whether Mrs. Palin was a good choice for VP by John McCain, as of today the choice of “Yes” was winning by an overwhelming 64%.
The McCain/Palin campaign also launched an ad today responding to the false attacks made against Sarah Palin, in the ad they quote the FactCheck.org non partisan website’s finding we reported earlier today. Here is the ad:
A CNN reporter this week didn’t seem to know or care that a fake photo showing a bikini-clad, rifle-toting Sarah Palin had been widely debunked days earlier as a fraud, the latest in series of incidents involving apparent misstatements or inaccurate reporting by the news network.
“(John) McCain has been really good about painting (Barack) Obama as this lightweight … They don’t want that to come back on Sarah Palin, and people say, yes, she looks good in a bikini clutching an AK-47, but is she equipped to run the country?” CNN’s Lola Ogunnaike said in response to a question on the network’s “Reliable Sources” show, which aired Sunday. CNN correspondents and analysts have also recently misrepresented Palin’s stance on incorporating creationism into Alaska’s school curriculum and falsely reported that she cut funds for people with special needs in the state budget.
The infamous fake bikini shot first appeared during the early days of the Republican convention. But it was widely debunked within 24 hours, with bloggers and others quickly exposing the fraud by finding the original shot, reportedly taken in 2004 in Athens, Ga., by an amateur photographer of his then-girlfriend.
During the show, Ogunnaike went on to compliment Us Weekly’s coverage of Palin, which has been widely attacked as unfair by critics and reportedly thousands of Us Weekly readers.
Ogunnaike’s remarks are among several apparent misstatements made recently by CNN reporters.
On Monday night, senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said Palin wants “to have creationism taught in public schools.” But numerous stories –- including CNN’s own reporting from last week — have noted that Palin has made no effort to try and include creationism in the state school curriculum.
The morning after Toobin’s remarks on creationism, CNN correspondent Jessica Yellin reported that Palin vetoed funds not only for so-called “earmarks,” but “even for people with disabilities.”
But Factcheck.org, a non-partisan group affiliated with the University of Pennsylvania, is among those that have reported that Palin “did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent.”
In fact, the group said in a posting published on Newsweek’s Web site, “She didn’t cut it at all. She tripled per-pupil funding over just three years.”
No, whomod is convinced that Sarah Palin's good looks don't actually exist and are a product of "eevile right-wing image manipulators," designed to fool the "sheeple".
This, whomod thinks, is what Palin really looks like:
This is from a conservative blog, so I'm not going to vouch for its accuracy, but it seems to indicate that the Obama campaign (and certain supporters) had, in fact, been using the "Palin as lipstick on a pig" metaphor for a while before the annointed one used it in his speech.
Uschi said: I won't rape you, I'll just fuck you 'till it hurts and then not stop and you'll cry.
MisterJLA: RACKS so hard, he called Jim Rome "Chris Everett." In Him, all porn is possible. He is far above mentions in so-called "blogs." RACK him, lest ye be lost!
"I can't even brush my teeth without gagging!" - Tommy Tantillo: Wank & Cry, heckpuppy, and general laughingstock
People need to wake up and realize those cold bastards that support Obama and write that filth are the same people he was secretly meeting talking about common people clinging to their guns and religion.
It's like the Calybos alt and whomod, they post all this anti-family, anti-american shit and becasue they run in those circles believe the average American is liek that, but they arent. the average American is moderate but if forced to choose will take a conservative slant over a liberal one...
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