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Fired Official: Governor Sarah Palin Did Not Tell the Truth to ABC Walt Monegan Says He Was Called to Gov.'s Office Over a "Private Family Matter" By RHONDA SCHWARTZ and JUSTIN ROOD September 15, 2008—
"She's not telling the truth when she told ABC neither she nor her husband pressured me to fire Trooper Wooten," said Walt Monegan, the Alaskan official whose dismissal by Sarah Palin is the focus of a state investigation known as "Troopergate". "And she's not telling the truth to the media about her reasons for firing me."
In an exclusive interview with ABC News.com, former Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan said he resisted pressure by the First Couple to re-open an old case against a state trooper, who was in a hotly contested divorce and custody battle with the Governor's sister Molly.
Alaskan lawmakers are investigating whether Palin and her husband used the power of the Governor's office to conduct a personal vendetta against their former brother-in-law, whose behavior during the 2005 divorce was described by the Palin family as " threatening."
In a 20/20 interview, Palin told ABC's Charles Gibson she dismissed Monegan for poor job performance and that neither she nor her husband pressured Monegan to fire State Trooper Wooten. "We never did. I never pressured him to hire or fire anybody," Palin said.
But Monegan told ABC News.com he was summoned to a meeting with Todd Palin in December 2006, shortly after Sarah Palin became governor.
"I was called to her Anchorage formal Governor's office to talk with Todd Palin about an issue that was a private family matter," recounted Monegan. Todd became "upset," Monegan recalled, when told the allegations had already been investigated and the case would not be re-opened.
"When Sarah later called to tell me the same thing, I thought to myself, 'I may not be long for this job.'" But, Monegan said, he stood by his position. "I held the public trust. As Chief, I was responsible."
Governor Palin initially agreed to "cooperate fully" with the Alaska state legislative investigation but since being chosen as John McCain's running mate both she and her husband have refused to testify voluntarily. Friday the legislature issued a subpoena for Todd Palin.
Monegan said he tried to persuade the first couple to drop the matter. "As a cop for 35 years I'm pretty familiar with issues that come up in divorce cases," and said his argument to both Todd and Sarah was, "if this was so egregious, why didn't you bring it up sooner? Why did you wait until several years later?"
Monegan, who gave sworn testimony behind closed doors for nearly eight hours last week, said he also provided the State's investigator with copies of e-mails he received from the Governor in which she referred in disparaging terms to her former brother-in-law.
"This is not a 'he said she said' situation. Others were contacted by Todd and Sarah as well," according to Monegan, who said he was confident the investigation would find adequate documentation to corroborate his testimony. ...
And, of course, the fact he was fired by her means he has no motive to lie whatsoever. Because, as we all know, disgruntled ex-employees never, ever, lie to get back at their former employers...especially when it might lead to a book deal and lawsuit.
And, of course, the fact he was fired by her means he has no motive to lie whatsoever. Because, as we all know, disgruntled ex-employees never, ever, lie to get back at their former employers...especially when it might lead to a book deal and lawsuit.
True but it sounded like he's not the only one the Palin's contacted. Hopefully they can resolve all this before the general election.
Given that the investigator is a partisan Democrat/Obama supporter I think we both know that the goal is not to get to the truth, but to smear Palin.
It's the oldest trick in the Democrat playbook: gin up some charges and then claim that "the seriousness of the charges warrants a full investigation," which investigation invariably is dragged out for years with lots of mud flung.
emails came out today that totaly verify what Palin was saying all along. She fired the douche because of budget problems.
But all this aside MEM.....did you know that this trooper tasered his own son who I think was 5 at the time. Shot a Moose in cold blood illegally when it wasn't in season and threatened to kill Palin's dad.
Does this sound like someone who should have a gun and be out there serving and protecting?
P, the Democrat party has spent the last seven years protecting terrorists because they think they can score political points against the GOP. Why would you think they wouldn't do the same with a crooked cop?
I agree that she was foolish to use a private email account for government work. Unfortunately, that's a common practice in a lot of government agencies, large and small. More often than not there's nothing nefarious about it, just a result of the average person's (including average politician's) misunderstanding of email laws and/or inability to access work email from home or similar.
For example, a year or so ago, there was a study in NY about Tompkins County, home to Cornell University and several other colleges. Despite the fact that the government employees there tended to be better educated than average (because of the universities), there was a big problem with public officials conducting personal business on private email accounts. Not because of an intent to deceive, but because of convenience.
Similarly, the New York Secretary of State's Committee on Open Government, which 'governs' the public access to local and state records, has recognized that its a common practice for politicians to use personal email accounts for convenience.
In any event, in Palin's case, from what I've read, the stuff in the account was primarily family stuff and other innoculous material.
Also, MEM, maybe I'm missing something but if the government material in the hacked email account was of interest to you or any other democrat don't you think the hackers would have put that up first?
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
emails came out today that totaly verify what Palin was saying all along. She fired the douche because of budget problems.
But all this aside MEM.....did you know that this trooper tasered his own son who I think was 5 at the time. Shot a Moose in cold blood illegally when it wasn't in season and threatened to kill Palin's dad.
Does this sound like someone who should have a gun and be out there serving and protecting?
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
emails came out today that totaly verify what Palin was saying all along. She fired the douche because of budget problems.
But all this aside MEM.....did you know that this trooper tasered his own son who I think was 5 at the time. Shot a Moose in cold blood illegally when it wasn't in season and threatened to kill Palin's dad.
Does this sound like someone who should have a gun and be out there serving and protecting?
please answer that.
I'm hearing alot of things. The guy she fired says that he & others also have emails. The brother-in-law cop was investigated for a year, some of the claims were determined to be unfounded. Palin has changed what she said about the investigation several times now. First she's for it, then she's not going to cooperate, she starts another investigation using her own people, now she doesn't want that. All the while she won't take a press conference. It just reminds me so much of the Bush & the GOP controlled years.
You're wasting your time, P. The Obamatarians are so determined to get their man into the White House that they will defend crooked cops, smear seventeen year pregnant girls and mock a war hero's disabilities if they think that's what it takes.
I'm seriously beginning to fear what will happen if their Messiah doesn't win in November. These people are nuts.
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
I never took you for a fool MEM. I would never defend a scum republican.
PJP this started out with a bipartisan committee launching the investigation. By bipartisan I mean mostly republicans & some democrats. It's not about defending a guy who tasered a 10 yr old. It's about Sarah Palin & how she used her office. Supposedly she's for better government accountability all the while she's trying to dodge this. If there's nothing really there it's foolish & damaging on their part to act like there is.
um.. so the reason she fired her brother in law was fired is now because as a lawman he was too aggressive against rapists?
Good luck with that one. Especially since Alaska ranks #1 in rape nationwide. It should fly well in tandem with Palin charging rape victims for their own rape kits.
Scumbags.
By the way, her public Yahoo e-mail got hacked. You'd think being the VP pick of the guy who invented the blackberry, she'd know better and be better protected by the technical wizardry of Ol John Boy..
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
attempted coup......I have faith in the American people. They will be pretty fucking upset on Nov. 5
That's part of what scares me. If you think the partisan attacks are bad now, just wait and see what happens in the Obamessiah doesn't get in the White House. The left, including the mainstream press, will do everything they can to destroy McCain and Palin and paralyze the country out of spite.
Originally Posted By: The New Adventures of Old PJP
I never took you for a fool MEM. I would never defend a scum republican.
PJP this started out with a bipartisan committee launching the investigation. By bipartisan I mean mostly republicans & some democrats. It's not about defending a guy who tasered a 10 yr old. It's about Sarah Palin & how she used her office. Supposedly she's for better government accountability all the while she's trying to dodge this. If there's nothing really there it's foolish & damaging on their part to act like there is.
you still didn't answer my question. Just toeing the party line as usual. Is the brother in law someone you would want to be a police officer?
um.. so the reason she fired her brother in law was fired is now because as a lawman he was too aggressive against rapists?
Good luck with that one. Especially since Alaska ranks #1 in rape nationwide. It should fly well in tandem with Palin charging rape victims for their own rape kits.
Scumbags.
By the way, her public Yahoo e-mail got hacked. You'd think being the VP pick of the guy who invented the blackberry, she'd know better and be better protected by the technical wizardry of Ol John Boy..
Sarah Palin has energized the Republican base since John McCain picked her as his vice-presidential running mate, but one prominent Republican is not impressed.hagelobama.jpg
Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, a Republican, is questioning whether Palin has enough foreign-policy experience to serve as the country’s second-in-command. “She doesn’t have any foreign policy credentials,” Hagel told the Omaha World-Herald. “You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don’t know what you can say. You can’t say anything.”
“I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, ‘I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,” he added. “That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.”
A conservative Vietnam War veteran and outspoken critic of the Iraq War, Hagel has cultivated a reputation as somebody unafraid to buck his party.
Hagel traveled with Democratic candidate Barack Obama to Afghanistan in July and was mentioned as a possible Obama running mate. He had kind words for Obama’s eventual pick, Delaware Sen. Joseph Biden.
“An Obama-Biden ticket is a very impressive and strong team,” Hagel said in August.
Apparently Sarah Palin is now putting her name before McCain's on campign tops. Might as well as the Politico reports that crowds leave en masse after Palin stops speaking and McCain comes onstage.
The understudy is trying to steal the leads thunder!!! it's so 'All about Eve'!!!
Wait'll the story that Palin wants to force victims of rape and incest to have their attackers babies, explodes.
In November 2006, then gubernatorial candidate Sarah Palin declared that she would not support an abortion for her own daughter even if she had been raped.
Granting exceptions only if the mother's life was in danger, Palin said that when it came to her daughter, "I would choose life."
It's not necessarily the choice I'd make. However, saying that she'd make the personal choice to want her daughter to keep the baby in that circumstance is obviously not the same as imposing it as a policy.
In November 2006, then gubernatorial candidate Sarah Palin declared that she would not support an abortion for her own daughter even if she had been raped.
Granting exceptions only if the mother's life was in danger, Palin said that when it came to her daughter, "I would choose life."
It's not necessarily the choice I'd make. However, saying that she'd make the personal choice to want her daughter to keep the baby in that circumstance is obviously not the same as imposing it as a policy.
So Sarah Palin is pro choice then.
I'll spread the word. that is unless she seeks to deny that same choice to everyone else.