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People respect John McCain, the only possible way to beat him is on issues and ideas, Obama has neither, attacking him personally is seen as bad taste by everyone but the extreme fringe, and since they love it they don't even see it. Attacking Palin's experience is seen as sexist given the lack of experience Obama has.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
People respect John McCain, the only possible way to beat him is on issues and ideas, Obama has neither, attacking him personally is seen as bad taste by everyone but the extreme fringe, and since they love it they don't even see it. Attacking Palin's experience is seen as sexist given the lack of experience Obama has.


Yep. That explains all the polls showing Obama leading McCain.

Moron.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
People respect John McCain, the only possible way to beat him is on issues and ideas, Obama has neither, attacking him personally is seen as bad taste by everyone but the extreme fringe, and since they love it they don't even see it. Attacking Palin's experience is seen as sexist given the lack of experience Obama has.


Oh by the way you did read the quote i put up from McCain's campaign manager. They don't want to run on ideas. They want to run on personality. It's Obama who wants to run on ideas. McCain just wants to remind everyone he was a POW and Palin was a photogenic soccer mom.


Do try to keep up, numbnuts.

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 Originally Posted By: whomod
 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
People respect John McCain, the only possible way to beat him is on issues and ideas, Obama has neither, attacking him personally is seen as bad taste by everyone but the extreme fringe, and since they love it they don't even see it. Attacking Palin's experience is seen as sexist given the lack of experience Obama has.


Oh by the way you did read the quote i put up from McCain's campaign manager. They don't want to run on ideas. They want to run on personality. It's Obama who wants to run on ideas. McCain just wants to remind everyone he was a POW and Palin was a photogenic soccer mom.


Do try to keep up, numbnuts.



Did you just read what I wrote? I just said attacking McCain's personality wont work, people like him. Do you want to argue so bad that you argue against yourself?


The only ads I see from Obama are ones trying to link McCain to Bush and no one is buying. He'll have to campaign on ideas to stand a chance.

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Why are you so mean whomod? Why call basams a moron or a dumbfuck?

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Racism is the reason why obama is leading in the polls. All the namby pambies are too afraid to be called racist if they say they're voting for McCain.


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Democratic Sen. Bill Wielechowski of East Anchorage said...


Well, that settles it. A democrat senator gave his opinion. Can't argue with that. He would never make the claim on partisan grounds, after all.

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Not only didn't she say no to the bridge to nowhere, shealso said YES to the road to nowhere!!


This should be fun.

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Sarah Palin said yes, thanks, to a road to nowhere in Alaska

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By Erika Hayasaki, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
September 19, 2008

GRAVINA ISLAND, ALASKA -- The 3.2-mile-long partially paved "road to nowhere" meanders from a small international airport on Gravina Island, home to 50 people, ending in a cul-de-sac close to a beach.

Crews are working to finish it. But no one knows when anyone will need to drive it.



That's because the $26-million road was designed to connect to the $398-million Gravina Island Bridge, more infamously known as the "bridge to nowhere." Alaskan officials thought federal money would pay for the bridge, but Gov. Sarah Palin killed the project after it was ridiculed and Congress rescinded the money. Plans for the road moved forward anyway.

Some residents of Ketchikan -- a city of 8,000 on a neighboring island where the bridge was to end -- see the road as a symbol of wasteful spending that Palin could have curtailed. Some of them even accuse her of deception.

"Surely we won't have to commute on the highway if there won't be a bridge," said Jill Jacob, who has been writing and calling the governor's office for the last two years to protest the road. "It's a dead-end highway, a dead-end road."

Since Palin was named the Republican vice presidential nominee two weeks ago, she has been boasting that she told Congress that Alaska didn't want the hundreds of millions that had been earmarked for the bridge.

But in 2006, Palin stood before residents in this region during her gubernatorial campaign and expressed support for the bridge. It became apparent after she was elected that the state's portion would be too costly, and Palin ordered transportation officials to abandon the project.

She held on to the $223 million in federally earmarked funds for other uses, such as the Gravina road, approved by her predecessor.

"Here's my question," said Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein. "If Sarah Palin is not being truthful on an issue like the Gravina bridge project, what else is she not being truthful about?"

Alaska transportation officials say construction of the road began in June 2007 because the state was still hoping to build a bridge, and "you need that highway access," said Roger Wetherell, a department spokesman.

But Weinstein, who backed the bridge project, said that Palin should have redirected the money. "If the bridge was canceled, give the money back, or get the earmark removed, or redesign the road so it's better for development," he said. "Especially if you're opposed to earmarks, and now you're telling the world you're opposed to earmarks."

His frustration came to a head after he heard Republican presidential nominee John McCain and Palin tout her reputation as a reformer focused on saving taxpayer money. He didn't feel much better when a campaign ad called them "the original mavericks," and said: "She stopped the 'bridge to nowhere.' "

Weinstein need only glance across the salmon-rich waters separating his city from Gravina Island to see what he believes are millions of dollars being spent unnecessarily. Why, he asks, didn't she stop that?...

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What a surprise. The politican quoted as the source in that article is a Democrat.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
What a surprise. The politican quoted as the source in that article is a Democrat.


So there is no road being built? So it serves a real need? So it will connect to a real bridge?

Your evasions are predictable already. Funny how you didn't blame the liberal media as well.

or does that come a few posts later?

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch


that is predictable as well.

The squealing hyeanas of the RKMB's.

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that is predictable as well.

The squealing hyeanas of the RKMB's.


what's a hyeana? is it anything like a hyena? are they as predictable as you logging out as soon as you run out of your 'best' material?


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Democratic Sen. Bill Wielechowski of East Anchorage said...


Well, that settles it. A democrat senator gave his opinion. Can't argue with that. He would never make the claim on partisan grounds, after all.


Sure you can.


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that is predictable as well.

The squealing hyeanas of the RKMB's.


what's a hyeana? is it anything like a hyena? are they as predictable as you logging out as soon as you run out of your 'best' material?


No, that's called having a real life to get back to. As opposed to you whose only real life ditched you and didn't even "come".

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You know who used to laugh of his own jokes?


beardguy. You're getting close to his insanity.


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I wasn't laughing.

I was mocking.

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Republicans don't ever seem to learn, it's not so much the crime as it is the coverup.


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ANCHORAGE, Alaska - The Alaska lawmaker directing an abuse-of-power investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin promised Friday the probe will be finished before the election, despite refusals by key witnesses to testify, including the governor's husband.


After waiting 35 minutes for Todd Palin and two state administrative employees to appear under subpoena before the state Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Hollis French condemned their refusal to testify and the attorney general's broken promise that seven other witnesses would testify who were not subpoenaed.

French said the retired prosecutor hired by the Alaska Legislature to investigate Palin, Stephen Branchflower, will conclude his investigation by Oct. 10. Still, that report will not include testimony from the Republican vice presidential nominee, her husband or most of the top aides Branchflower hoped to interview.

Sarah Palin's allies hoped the investigation would be delayed past the election to spare her any troublesome revelations — or at least the distraction — before voters have made their choice. Palin's reputation as clean-government advocate who takes on entrenched interests is central to her appeal as Republican John McCain's running mate, and possibly at risk in the probe...


And they claim that they're different than the Bush White House, how exactly?

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Given that the Democrat running the investigation already has his orders from Obama on what the report's findings should be, why wait until October? Just issue the smears now.

Oh, wait, it's "October surprise," not "September surprise." I forgot.

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So the Democrats are now running the investigation?

you guys really are desperate now, huh?


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Republicans don't ever seem to learn, it's not so much the crime as it is the coverup.


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By MATT VOLZ, Associated Press Writer 51 minutes ago

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - The Alaska lawmaker directing an abuse-of-power investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin promised Friday the probe will be finished before the election, despite refusals by key witnesses to testify, including the governor's husband.


After waiting 35 minutes for Todd Palin and two state administrative employees to appear under subpoena before the state Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Hollis French condemned their refusal to testify and the attorney general's broken promise that seven other witnesses would testify who were not subpoenaed.

French said the retired prosecutor hired by the Alaska Legislature to investigate Palin, Stephen Branchflower, will conclude his investigation by Oct. 10. Still, that report will not include testimony from the Republican vice presidential nominee, her husband or most of the top aides Branchflower hoped to interview.

Sarah Palin's allies hoped the investigation would be delayed past the election to spare her any troublesome revelations — or at least the distraction — before voters have made their choice. Palin's reputation as clean-government advocate who takes on entrenched interests is central to her appeal as Republican John McCain's running mate, and possibly at risk in the probe...


And they claim that they're different than the Bush White House, how exactly?


I've been reading about this & unless there is proof that Palin fired this guy for not firing her ex-brother-in-law that they know would really hurt them if it got out, I can't figure why they have ran from this. They just made themselves look like the GOP did right before the last election.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Given that the Democrat running the investigation already has his orders from Obama on what the report's findings should be, why wait until October? Just issue the smears now.

Oh, wait, it's "October surprise," not "September surprise." I forgot.


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So the Democrats are now running the investigation?

you guys really are desperate now, huh?



From MSNBC: "Sen. Hollis French, the Democrat overseeing the investigation..."

Please note that I used a large font and MSNBC as a source. Would you like a dancing nana and unrelated YouTube clip to go with it?

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Given that the Democrat running the investigation already has his orders from Obama on what the report's findings should be, why wait until October? Just issue the smears now.

Oh, wait, it's "October surprise," not "September surprise." I forgot.


Any substantiation for saying that Obama is giving the orders?


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I'll rephrase: the Obama campaign.

I doubt that he's dumb enough to make the call himself.

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Internal Government Document Contradicts Sarah Palin, Campaign
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September 19, 2008

An internal government document obtained by ABC News appears to contradict Sarah Palin's most recent explanation for why she fired her public safety chief Walt Monegan, the move which prompted the now-contested state probe into "Troopergate."
(ABC News Photo Illustration)Fighting back against allegations she may have fired her then-Public Safety Commissioner, Walt Monegan, for refusing to go along with a personal vendetta, Palin on Monday argued in a legal filing that she fired Monegan because he had a "rogue mentality" and was bucking her administration's directives.

"The last straw," her lawyer argued, came when he planned a trip to Washington, D.C., to seek federal funds for an aggressive anti-sexual-violence program. The project, expected to cost from $10 million to $20 million a year for five years, would have been the first of its kind in Alaska, which leads the nation in reported forcible rape.

The McCain-Palin campaign echoed the charge in a press release it distributed Monday, concurrent with Palin's legal filing. "Mr. Monegan persisted in planning to make the unauthorized lobbying trip to D.C.," the release stated.

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Palin Wants End to Probe She Requested Suit Filed to Stop Palin Troopergate Probe More from Brian Ross and the Investigative TeamBut the governor's staff authorized the trip, according to an internal travel document from the Department of Public Safety, released Friday in response to an open records request.

The document, a state travel authorization form, shows that Palin's chief of staff, Mike Nizich, approved Monegan's trip to Washington D.C. "to attend meeting with Senator Murkowski." The date next to Nizich's signature reads June 18.
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I'll give her credit for telling a lie with gusto.


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I'll give her credit for telling a lie with gusto.


I can see how that would appeal to you, given your crush on Hillary.

But, seriously, it looks like the Chief of Staff was rubber stamping practically blank request forms. It does not prove the governor approved or wanted this clown running off to Washington.

If she's guilty of anything, it's not keeping the CoS on a shorter leash.

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...But, seriously, it looks like the Chief of Staff was rubber stamping practically blank request forms. It does not prove the governor approved or wanted this clown running off to Washington.

....


How do you come by the rubber stamp excuse? From what I've read so far Palin & McCain have refused to comment on this.


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It's always important to read the parts of an article that whomod cuts out:

  • In Palin's court filing Monday ... her lawyer, Thomas V. Van Flein, included numerous emails from her staff expressing confusion and incredulity over Monegan's planned D.C. trip. None of those emails were sent by or to Nizich, although he was cc'd on several.

    Contacted Friday, Monegan confirmed the travel authorization was to pursue funding for the anti-sexual-violence program. He said the travel authorization form was completed in a fashion consistent with practice, even though it showed no expenditures. The signed form approved the travel, he said, and authorized him to use a government credit card or seek reimbursement for expenses he incurred during the trip.

    Monegan said he didn't know why Palin's chief of staff approved a trip that confounded her other aides. "It sounds like it's a breakdown of communication internal to the governor's staff," he said.


I've seen government employees fired and even indicted for submitting and/or approving incomplete travel vouchers. The Chief of Staff shouldn't have approved it, even it was 'past practice'.

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It's always important to read the parts of an article that whomod cuts out:

  • In Palin's court filing Monday ... her lawyer, Thomas V. Van Flein, included numerous emails from her staff expressing confusion and incredulity over Monegan's planned D.C. trip. None of those emails were sent by or to Nizich, although he was cc'd on several.

    Contacted Friday, Monegan confirmed the travel authorization was to pursue funding for the anti-sexual-violence program. He said the travel authorization form was completed in a fashion consistent with practice, even though it showed no expenditures. The signed form approved the travel, he said, and authorized him to use a government credit card or seek reimbursement for expenses he incurred during the trip.

    Monegan said he didn't know why Palin's chief of staff approved a trip that confounded her other aides. "It sounds like it's a breakdown of communication internal to the governor's staff," he said.


I've seen government employees fired and even indicted for submitting and/or approving incomplete travel vouchers. The Chief of Staff shouldn't have approved it, even it was 'past practice'.


You do understand Monegan is the guy you just called a bozo just a post ago right? He seems to be the only honest one in the bunch. He was just guessing so we probably should wait for McCain's campaign to get something better sounding for Palin to say.

BTW this be MEM your talking to, I know Whomod is your favorite but try to pay attention.


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The fact that the bozo had to admit that the approval process was flawed doesn't make him less of a bozo.

And sorry, about assuming it was a whomod post. However, the fact you cut the part of the article I was talking about and then feigned ignorance as to the basis of my conclusion is rather whomodian.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
The fact that the bozo had to admit that the approval process was flawed doesn't make him less of a bozo.


I think the real bozo would be Palin, who just made alot of noise about his trip being unauthorized. McCain really needs to get the campaign to fact check things first before sending her out with the script.

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And sorry, about assuming it was a whomod post. However, the fact you cut the part of the article I was talking about and then feigned ignorance as to the basis of my conclusion is rather whomodian.


I wasn't feigning, Palin & company aren't talking about it (surprise surprise) & Monegan was just guessing since his first comment was that he didn't know.

It's ok about the name mix up btw, your an asshole & it's just parr for the course.


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your an asshole & it's just parr for the course.




Wow. SOMEone's got that not so fresh feeling tonight. Still, I suppose that being confused with whomod could make anyone cranky.

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that is predictable as well.

The squealing hyeanas of the RKMB's.


what's a hyeana? is it anything like a hyena? are they as predictable as you logging out as soon as you run out of your 'best' material?


No, that's called having a real life to get back to. As opposed to you whose only real life ditched you and didn't even "come".


it took you how long to come up with that? halo coulda beat you to that one.


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At least whomod took a few hours to spend time with his kids. That makes him, like, father of the year in the insurgency world.

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Now, now, I'm sure Sammitch will spend time with his soon-to-be child, assuming the paternity test comes back positive.


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10000+ posts Fri Sep 19 2008 11:13 PM Reading a post
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Thread: Sarah Palin for VP

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