RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Sarah Palin for VP

So the Obamatarians are back to attacking Palin's family, including her 11 year old nephew and her daughter again?

Troopers who show bad judgement are supposed to get fired, whomod. They aren't supposed to blame the underaged victim.

Man, you people will step over anybody and betray every principle to get this guy into power, won't you?

Vince Foster, George Stephanopoulos and Dick Morris weren't available for comment.


Oh and Foster wasn't available because the Clinton's murdered him.

Reply to what?

your assertion that most candians and Brits Don't like free health care. Your assertion that Austin Powers is my "god"? Or your assumption, however uninformed and misguided that most people like the staus quo and that what they're clamoring for is not the solution but the status quo is.

Its utter nonsense what you're saying, incoherent or otherwise.

Yep. That explains all the polls showing Obama leading McCain.

Moron.

ALLRIGHT WHOMOD et al
I cant be arsed to read the other nonsense

I challenge you


I challenge you to show me how the rich elitist Democrats in Obama's newblood camp are better than McCain's experienced republican camp.

I am not and never have been a political pundit my wife has helped me to do so as we now have four children that will need to live in future American.

Tell me how the Democrats will affect the rich (which Obama certainly is and alwasy has been unlike Palin....an unfair compairision as he is the Presidential candidate and she the vice I know). And tell me how much Obama "fixed" Illinois with the corrupt Chicago machine.....I know P Diddy tells us that Palin cant be a good govenor because they aint no crackheads in Alaska but they alot of crackheads in Illinois under Richie Daley that Obama has done NOTHING to address, instead he focused on his presidential career. Hmmm Anyone have McCain's credentials handy?!?!?!?!

Whomod will never respond to any of your posts. He's too afraid to. He'll hide behind his propaganda and other people's words. He's nothing more than coward.

They both suck balls and they both have a bunch of dumb fucks who follow them (or their party) with blind zeal. No matter which one wins, America loses.

zactly


and I aint so sure how good mccain is either but I am sick of the Oprah/news/and NOW SNL crowd blindly sucking Obama's cock on live TV to the point that idiot whore Robin Whatever on CNN is buying in to this BULLSHIT


BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS are looking out for their rich friends IDIOTS its how bad they can SCREW middle class is what is TRULY an issue.


HEY DUMMIES REMEMBER HILARY AND YOU HATED THIS GUY A COUPLE MONTHS BACK

How hard could it be to govern Alaska, anyway? Isn't it the least populated state in the Union? She's governing all of 65 people.

How hard could it be to govern Alaska, anyway? Isn't it the least populated state in the Union? She's governing all of 65 people.

ALLRIGHT WHOMOD et al
I cant be arsed to read the other nonsense

I challenge you


I challenge you to show me how the rich elitist Democrats in Obama's newblood camp are better than McCain's experienced republican camp.

I am not and never have been a political pundit my wife has helped me to do so as we now have four children that will need to live in future American.

Tell me how the Democrats will affect the rich (which Obama certainly is and alwasy has been unlike Palin....an unfair compairision as he is the Presidential candidate and she the vice I know). And tell me how much Obama "fixed" Illinois with the corrupt Chicago machine.....I know P Diddy tells us that Palin cant be a good govenor because they aint no crackheads in Alaska but they alot of crackheads in Illinois under Richie Daley that Obama has done NOTHING to address, instead he focused on his presidential career. Hmmm Anyone have McCain's credentials handy?!?!?!?!

Wow. Slant the question much?

First you start off with the assumption that Obama is "elitist" and McCain is "experienced". That's pure talking point drivel from the right. How is the guy with one car and one home who just recently made his wealth by publishing a couple of books and just recently paid off his student loans, the silver spoon guy, the "elitist" and the guy married to the beer heiress who can't recall how many homes he owns nor how many of his 13 cars are foreign made, and who thinks anyone making less than 5 million a year is middle class, the everyman?

And Obama has already made his plans known. Especially his tax plan, which if you believe republican talking points, you probably believe involves YOU being taxed instead of you getting a tax cut and the other 5-10% making more than $250,000 a year would pay more..

But Both Obama and McCain's tax plans I think would need to be reevaluated in light of the recent crisis. I think it's fair to say that both candidates would reevaluate any position in light of changing circumstances. Still, Obama's plan sounds like change while McCain's plan, making Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, permanent, just sounds like more of the same.

McCain would make permanent most of the tax cuts President Bush has already enacted, including those that benefit the middle class, such as elimination of the marriage penalty and the increase in child credits. He would also keep cuts that benefit the wealthy, such as the elimination of the highest tax brackets. Obama would keep the breaks for the middle class but not the ones for the wealthy. That's per the 'Tax policy Center' analysis of both plans.

As for his accomplishments in Illinois:

* Voted to end $300 million worth of tax breaks for businesses. (2004)
* Voted for having Illinois endorse embryonic stem cell research. (2004)
* Voted against restrictions on public funding of abortion. (2000)
* Successfully co-sponsored a prescription drug discount buying club program for seniors and the disabled. (2003)
* Unsuccessfully co-sponsored ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation. The measure became law after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate. (2003)
* Successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform called the Gift Ban Act. (1998)


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

As per the article:

Obama took on tough issues and demonstrated he could work with the other side:



Listen, if you're predisposed to vote Republican and dislike Democrats as it sounds like in the way you phrased your question to me, then anything I say will just be a waste of time. I've already gone on and on about why McCain is not a good choice IMO, the whole selling out his integrity to win his party's nomination and now the whole lie based campaign he's running makes any claim of integrity he may cling to, laughable.

Obama inspires me and he inspires many many more. You can be a cynic and mock that, like a lot of Republicans do by trying to make him a messiah figure or you can just try something different after 8 years of GOP leadership that frankly has benefited a select few over the great many in this country. McCain reinforced that last when he said that the fundamentals of the economy were sound and his economic advisor and architect of his economic policy, Phil Gramm said we were in a mental recession and America was a nation of whiners. Of course they think that. This economy has benefited THEM these past 8 years.

Only when it was painfully obvious that McCain was tone deaf in the wake of a economic meltdown did he suddenly try to steal Obama's populist tone and rail against "greedy CEO's" He can change the tone and rhetoric but the record and philosophy of a deregulatory is there for anyone to see. Only in 2005 did he ever call for more regulation and that pretty much was it. Even after being a part of the Keating 5 did he still not learn the lesson of lax regulation, although at the time he claimed he had learned much.

Quick show of hands:

Does anybody there believe that, if McCain had chosen, say Fred Thompson over Palin, whomod would be talking up Thompsons age, wisdom and experience?

Does anybody believe that, if McCain had chosen any old white male, whomod wouldn't be here screaming about the need for "youth" and "new ideas"?

Anybody?

Anyone?

The difference is that "your" side is calling for a higher level of experience for the Vice-President than you expect for your presidential candidates.

Probably not a big deal for your party though since Bush had to rely on Cheney much the same way & your use to that type of thing.

Well to be honest I've chimed in on the issue and think it's less of an issue for the VP ...

How come you don't respond all nice and civil to me when I ask you questions? If you respond rationally to the rest of us we might actually be able to have real conversations here.

and now is showing increasing signs of mental confusion,

How much experience did George Washington have, hmm?

September 23, 2008
McCain camp tries to keep reporters out of Palin meetings
Posted: 02:45 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby


(CNN) — McCain-Palin campaign officials shifted course Tuesday after being informed by television news organizations that they would not broadcast footage of Sarah Palin’s meeting with Afghan leader Hamid Karzai Tuesday in New York — the Republican VP nominee’s first with a foreign leader — if a reporter was not allowed in to observe the pair.


The media was allowed to observe Palin and Karzai for less than 30 seconds.

CNN, which was the pool network for the event, informed the campaign of its decision. The network was then told a CNN producer would be allowed in the room to act as a media representative, just minutes before the photo op was scheduled to take place. However, print reporters and wire services were not allowed to observe the meeting, as they have been able to do at similar McCain events in the past.

The press only caught a brief glimpse of the vice presidential nominee. Palin was seated in a large chair a few feet from Karzai, with a table in between them. Seated slightly behind Palin were campaign foreign policy advisers Steve Biegun and Randy Scheunemann, who are accompanying the governor in her motorcade today.

As the pool entered, the Afghan president appeared to be telling Palin about his young son, who was born in January 2007.

Palin, her legs crossed and at one point patting her heart, was leaning in eagerly and smiling. Karzai, wearing his traditional clothes but without his trademark karakul hat, was also grinning while discussing the child. His remarks were mostly unintelligible as the noise from the clicking cameras drowned them out.

“What is his name?,” Palin asked.

“Mirwais,” Karzai responded. “Mirwais, which means, ‘The Light of the House.’”

“Oh nice,” Palin responded.

“He is the only one we have,” remarked Karzai.

After 29 seconds observing the meeting, CNN and other photographers covering the meeting were escorted out of the room.

Later, McCain-Palin press representatives chalked up the restrictions to a “mix-up, a miscommunication among staff.” The full pool — a print and wires reporter, along with a television producer — was then allowed in to observe Palin’s meeting with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe for 15-20 seconds.