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No. Sarah Palin is. Credibility. By the second.  This is the woman you think is fit to lead. Sequestered like the embarrassment she is.
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Wow, CNN grew a few. Good for them. AP apparently protested as well. Yes, Virginia, there is a media. And it's starting to wake up. I'm really shocked that CNN did this. CNN was the network providing television coverage for all the networks, and after McCain's people said there would be no coverage of Palin's actual substantive (if you'd call it that) conversations with world leaders, CNN pulled the plug. Wow. Here's AP's coverage, it's good: Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who has not held a press conference in nearly four weeks of campaigning, on Tuesday banned reporters from her first meetings with world leaders, allowing access only to photographers and a television crew.
CNN, which was providing the television coverage for news organizations, decided to pull its TV crew, effectively denying Palin the high visibility she had sought.
Palin planned to meet Afghan President Hamid Karzai and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe in New York on Tuesday as the United Nations General Assembly convenes this week. She also was expected to meet with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
Those sessions and meetings scheduled for Wednesday are part of the Republican campaign's effort to give Palin experience in foreign affairs. She has never met a foreign head of state and first traveled outside North America just last year. has more, and notes that the media also seems to have gotten ticked at McCain this morning for refusing to take questions. Well here's an idea: Stop covering him. Pull your reporters on the McCain's bus (well, they're no longer in the bus at all, now they follow in vans) and stop covering McCain as clearly there is nothing to cover. That will get his attention.
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Oh boy. It goes on.... McCain permitted the press to observe Palin meeting with the Colombian president, for a whole 15 to 20 seconds, then kicks them out.  Wow, brave media. After treating the press like dirt this morning and refusing to let anyone cover Palin's meetings with foreign leaders at the UN, leading CNN to cancel its camera coverage of Palin's phony photo opps, the Palin/McCain campaign promised the media that it was all a misunderstanding. So during the next event, the media was let in to cover it. All for a grand total of 15 to 20 seconds. Then they were told to get out. At this point you'd start to think the McCain camp is trying to hide something about Palin...  Have none of these people ever watched any Charlie Brown? Are they stupid or something? The press never had any clue that Palin/McCain woud pull the football out from under them again. And again and again.  Seriously, stop covering these phony photo opps. Stop sending people on McCain's bus and plane (when you're not even on McCain's bus anyway, real journalists were kicked off of that thing long ago). It's like the Stockholm Syndrome with you people. I'm expecting the Palin/McCain campaign to release a photo any day now of Candy Crowley with a Tommy Gun.  September 23, 2008 McCain camp tries to keep reporters out of Palin meetingsPosted: 02:45 PM ET From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby (CNN) — McCain-Palin campaign officials shifted course Tuesday after being informed by television news organizations that they would not broadcast footage of Sarah Palin’s meeting with Afghan leader Hamid Karzai Tuesday in New York — the Republican VP nominee’s first with a foreign leader — if a reporter was not allowed in to observe the pair. The media was allowed to observe Palin and Karzai for less than 30 seconds.CNN, which was the pool network for the event, informed the campaign of its decision. The network was then told a CNN producer would be allowed in the room to act as a media representative, just minutes before the photo op was scheduled to take place. However, print reporters and wire services were not allowed to observe the meeting, as they have been able to do at similar McCain events in the past.
The press only caught a brief glimpse of the vice presidential nominee. Palin was seated in a large chair a few feet from Karzai, with a table in between them. Seated slightly behind Palin were campaign foreign policy advisers Steve Biegun and Randy Scheunemann, who are accompanying the governor in her motorcade today.
As the pool entered, the Afghan president appeared to be telling Palin about his young son, who was born in January 2007.
Palin, her legs crossed and at one point patting her heart, was leaning in eagerly and smiling. Karzai, wearing his traditional clothes but without his trademark karakul hat, was also grinning while discussing the child. His remarks were mostly unintelligible as the noise from the clicking cameras drowned them out.
“What is his name?,” Palin asked.
“Mirwais,” Karzai responded. “Mirwais, which means, ‘The Light of the House.’”
“Oh nice,” Palin responded.
“He is the only one we have,” remarked Karzai.
After 29 seconds observing the meeting, CNN and other photographers covering the meeting were escorted out of the room.
Later, McCain-Palin press representatives chalked up the restrictions to a “mix-up, a miscommunication among staff.” The full pool — a print and wires reporter, along with a television producer — was then allowed in to observe Palin’s meeting with Colombian President Alvaro Uribe for 15-20 seconds.Wow. what a substantive conversation. I'm now convinced she has what it takes!  And you wonder why the press isn't allowed to see her in action.
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basically someone who thinks they are better than you. Gob darn it, I see my brilliant reply to the qouted text didn't make it through. Apparently my connection cut out a split second before I hit "submit" The gist of that reply was: Calling someone an elitist because they "think" they're better than you is just sad. What if he actually IS better than you? What if he really does understand politics, economics, etc. better than you? So you call him an elitist because he's smarter than you? I'd call Einstein an elitist because he was smarter than me. But that would just make me look silly.
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basically someone who thinks they are better than you. Gob darn it, I see my brilliant reply to the qouted text didn't make it through. Apparently my connection cut out a split second before I hit "submit" The gist of that reply was: Calling someone an elitist because they "think" they're better than you is just sad. What if he actually IS better than you? What if he really does understand politics, economics, etc. better than you? So you call him an elitist because he's smarter than you? I'd call Einstein an elitist because he was smarter than me. But that would just make me look silly. well that seems to be what some people want. not someone who understand economics and foreign policy better than you. No, we want the guy who is cool to have a beer with. Not the smart guy. Hence the past 8 years.
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NEW YORK — Former President Bill Clinton said Monday he understands why Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is popular in the American heartland: because people relate to her.
“I come from Arkansas, I get why she’s hot out there, why she’s doing well,” said Clinton, who supports the Democratic ticket headed by Barack Obama.
Speaking to reporters before his Clinton Global Initiative meeting, the former president described Palin’s appeal by adding, “People look at her, and they say, ‘All those kids. Something that happens in everybody’s family. I’m glad she loves her daughter and she’s not ashamed of her. Glad that girl’s going around with her boyfriend. Glad they’re going to get married.”‘
Clinton said voters would think, “I like that little Down syndrome kid. One of them lives down the street. They’re wonderful children. They’re wonderful people. And I like the idea that this guy does those long-distance races. Stayed in the race for 500 miles with a broken arm. My kind of guy.”
Palin, the governor of Alaska, became an overnight star when Republican presidential candidate John McCain tapped her for his running mate. Her family, including her Down syndrome baby, Trig, her pregnant 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, and her husband, Todd, four-time winner of the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race, have garnered intense media interest.
“I get this,” Clinton said. “My view is … why say, ever, anything bad about a person? Why don’t we like them and celebrate them and be happy for her elevation to the ticket? And just say that she was a good choice for him and we disagree with them?”
The global initiative, a project of Clinton’s foundation, will hold its four-day annual meeting in Manhattan starting Tuesday.
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basically someone who thinks they are better than you. Gob darn it, I see my brilliant reply to the qouted text didn't make it through. Apparently my connection cut out a split second before I hit "submit" The gist of that reply was: Calling someone an elitist because they "think" they're better than you is just sad. What if he actually IS better than you? What if he really does understand politics, economics, etc. better than you? So you call him an elitist because he's smarter than you? I'd call Einstein an elitist because he was smarter than me. But that would just make me look silly. But that's not what 'elitist' means. Einstein was smarter than you and most around him. That doesn't mean that he was an elitist. Had he said that you were dog shit and that your opinion didn't matter because you weren't as smart as him, that's being an elitist.
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Well, the previous government here in Denmark was a left-wing government. The Minister of Finances understood politics and economics better than all of us here. He was a complete ass. Everyone hated him. But everyone also acknowledged that he was better than them when it came to his area of expertise.
Seriously. The man might be a complete asshole. But would you really rather have a president who is a complete asshole but actually knows his stuff. Or would you have a president who's a clueless, hypocritical, rapture-ready, nice guy/gal? (I'm exxagerating, I know!) (and I also know I spelled exxagerating incorrectly)
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would you have a president who's a clueless, hypocritical, rapture-ready, nice guy/gal? No I would not want Obama.
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That's not fair, BSAMS. Muslims don't call it the rapture. They call it the Shia Messianic Mission
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well, isn't that the same thing?
On a more serious note though. I thought it had been established that obama is in fact a christian, and not a muslim? (yes, yes, I know about those stupid laws that the muslims have where everyone who's born into a family where there's a muslim is also automatically a muslim)
Oh, and speaking of messianic. Didn't Palin say something about the war in Iraq being a messianic mission from god? Or were she just preaching to the choir in the church because she knew it was what they wanted to hear?
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Oh, and speaking of messianic. Didn't Palin say something about the war in Iraq being a messianic mission from god? Or were she just preaching to the choir in the church because she knew it was what they wanted to hear? She said no such thing. It was a gross distortion of what she actually said by the liberals in this country in an attempt to further enrage their own kind who might be willing to vote for McCain.
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ALLRIGHT WHOMOD et al
I cant be arsed to read the other nonsense
I challenge you
I challenge you to show me how the rich elitist Democrats in Obama's newblood camp are better than McCain's experienced republican camp.
I am not and never have been a political pundit my wife has helped me to do so as we now have four children that will need to live in future American.
Tell me how the Democrats will affect the rich (which Obama certainly is and alwasy has been unlike Palin....an unfair compairision as he is the Presidential candidate and she the vice I know). And tell me how much Obama "fixed" Illinois with the corrupt Chicago machine.....I know P Diddy tells us that Palin cant be a good govenor because they aint no crackheads in Alaska but they alot of crackheads in Illinois under Richie Daley that Obama has done NOTHING to address, instead he focused on his presidential career. Hmmm Anyone have McCain's credentials handy?!?!?!?! Wow. Slant the question much? First you start off with the assumption that Obama is "elitist" and McCain is "experienced". That's pure talking point drivel from the right. How is the guy with one car and one home who just recently made his wealth by publishing a couple of books and just recently paid off his student loans, the silver spoon guy, the "elitist" and the guy married to the beer heiress who can't recall how many homes he owns nor how many of his 13 cars are foreign made, and who thinks anyone making less than 5 million a year is middle class, the everyman? And Obama has already made his plans known. Especially his tax plan, which if you believe republican talking points, you probably believe involves YOU being taxed instead of you getting a tax cut and the other 5-10% making more than $250,000 a year would pay more.. But Both Obama and McCain's tax plans I think would need to be reevaluated in light of the recent crisis. I think it's fair to say that both candidates would reevaluate any position in light of changing circumstances. Still, Obama's plan sounds like change while McCain's plan, making Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy, permanent, just sounds like more of the same. McCain would make permanent most of the tax cuts President Bush has already enacted, including those that benefit the middle class, such as elimination of the marriage penalty and the increase in child credits. He would also keep cuts that benefit the wealthy, such as the elimination of the highest tax brackets. Obama would keep the breaks for the middle class but not the ones for the wealthy. That's per the 'Tax policy Center' analysis of both plans. As for his accomplishments in Illinois: * Voted to end $300 million worth of tax breaks for businesses. (2004) * Voted for having Illinois endorse embryonic stem cell research. (2004) * Voted against restrictions on public funding of abortion. (2000) * Successfully co-sponsored a prescription drug discount buying club program for seniors and the disabled. (2003) * Unsuccessfully co-sponsored ban on discrimination based on sexual orientation. The measure became law after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate. (2003) * Successfully co-sponsored major ethics reform called the Gift Ban Act. (1998) http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html?_r=1&oref=sloginAs per the article: Obama took on tough issues and demonstrated he could work with the other side: During his last two years, Democrats controlled the chamber and he was the go-to guy on a variety of issues. He helped pass legislation overhauling Illinois' troubled capital punishment system and was a key figure in requiring a massive statewide study of traffic stops to look for signs of racial profiling. Although police groups opposed the legislation, they say Obama listened to their concerns and accepted some of their suggestions to improve the bill.
Even when he was in the political minority, Obama sometimes played a critical role. He helped write one of the rare ethics laws in a state known for government corruption and worked on welfare reform with Republicans. Listen, if you're predisposed to vote Republican and dislike Democrats as it sounds like in the way you phrased your question to me, then anything I say will just be a waste of time. I've already gone on and on about why McCain is not a good choice IMO, the whole selling out his integrity to win his party's nomination and now the whole lie based campaign he's running makes any claim of integrity he may cling to, laughable. Obama inspires me and he inspires many many more. You can be a cynic and mock that, like a lot of Republicans do by trying to make him a messiah figure or you can just try something different after 8 years of GOP leadership that frankly has benefited a select few over the great many in this country. McCain reinforced that last when he said that the fundamentals of the economy were sound and his economic advisor and architect of his economic policy, Phil Gramm said we were in a mental recession and America was a nation of whiners. Of course they think that. This economy has benefited THEM these past 8 years. Only when it was painfully obvious that McCain was tone deaf in the wake of a economic meltdown did he suddenly try to steal Obama's populist tone and rail against "greedy CEO's" He can change the tone and rhetoric but the record and philosophy of a deregulatory is there for anyone to see. Only in 2005 did he ever call for more regulation and that pretty much was it. Even after being a part of the Keating 5 did he still not learn the lesson of lax regulation, although at the time he claimed he had learned much. How come you don't respond all nice and civil to me when I ask you questions? If you respond rationally to the rest of us we might actually be able to have real conversations here. It may have something to do with some people here trying to make every discussion about me and not the issue. I generally have no experience with Franta being a dick or piling on afterwards in support of a dick that wants to discuss me rather than the issues at hand. Plus as Franta said, it was a challenge. An honest question. So I gave him an honest answer. i've tried to ask you real questions. i would honestly like to have a civil discussion with you and everyone else here.
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WHOMOD I cant be arsed to quote your list of Obama's feats......
Lets be honest
A WHOLE LOTTA NOTHING
THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE
INSTEAD HE FOCUSED ON HIS CAMPAIGN
CHICAGO IS STILL A CORRUPT MACHINE
Yeah maybe Palin only had small little Alaska to change and as the guru P Didddy said "They aint NO crackheads there" but is that a fault or an accomplishment?
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That said Whomod I give you more credit than the MAJORITY of Obama supporters.
You at least see the issues and research
and I dont disrespect your views that differ from mine
Whether I agree with your opinions or not you arent the blind sheep that many of Obamma supporters are....and hope you can see that ...and not give the standard these people WANT CHANGE....as these people really are media guided
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just so you know, Franta my boy, I don't support Obama, I support McCain. It's not going to effect me in major way anyway. I merely think that McCain is making a monumental mistake by picking Palin as his running mate.
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I thought you lived in Denmark and, therefore, can't vote here?
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he supports McCain, not voting for...
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...I dunno, maybe he plans to download a registration form off a video game like Pro and Snarf did.
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...I dunno, maybe he plans to download a registration form off a video game like Pro and Snarf did. That'd be awesome, if I could do that then I would be your new president 
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We already have one foreign agent with socialist tendencies running. We don't need another.
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Oh trust me, if I were president the last thing you'd need to worry about was socialism
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This is Ray's problem. Everyone he knows is a fucking left wing lunatic: - An organic wine from Chile has oenophiles in San Francisco turning up their noses. But there’s nothing wrong with the wine. It’s the name that bothers them:
Palin Syrah.
The wine from a boutique vineyard in Chile was once a strong seller, but now it’s an outcast in the City by the Bay because its name comes way too close to a certain governor from the state of Alaska, says Celine Guillou, co-owner of the Yield Wine Bar.
The wine's got nothing to do with the Republican VP candidate, it's organic and used to sell well, but the mere fact it's name sounds like a Republican's means people in San Francisco won't drink it. Geez. This would be like me refusing to go to any of the businesses in our town located on Clinton Street.
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...I dunno, maybe he plans to download a registration form off a video game like Pro and Snarf did. I picked up my form from the local Department of Transportation office, thank you.
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You eediot. That wasn't a voter registration form. It was an application to operate heavy machinery.
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You eediot. That wasn't a voter registration form. It was an application to operate heavy machinery. depending on the heavy machinery, couldn't that be a form of voting?
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depending on the heavy machinery, couldn't that be a form of voting? I don't wanna know what kinda machinery snarf's into operating. Figures as soon as someone mentions the word "heavy", Sammitch comes running to join the thread....
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depending on the heavy machinery, couldn't that be a form of voting? I don't wanna know what kinda machinery snarf's into operating. Figures as soon as someone mentions the word "heavy", Sammitch comes running to join the thread.... 
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depending on the heavy machinery, couldn't that be a form of voting? I don't wanna know what kinda machinery snarf's into operating. Figures as soon as someone mentions the word "heavy", Sammitch comes running to join the thread.... Truly, the highest honor that can be given to a post made by me. Thank God for PJP. Thank God indeed!
Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!
All hail King Snarf!
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King Snarf content User 10000+ posts Wed Sep 24 2008 10:15 PM Reading a post
Forum: Politics and Current Events
Thread: Sarah Palin for VP
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Im sure there is anotheer thread about this but I cant be arsed to find it
regarding McCain's postponeing [sp] the debate
Mccain is actually going to GO TO WORK and forgo the campaign?!?! So he can do his job and try to figure this out for Americans?
While Obama continues to avoid his duties as he has been doing since elected to office and continue the campaign partying with micheal moore et al.
Its High School all over again Mccain is just delaying coz he ascared.
YOU PUT SOUP IN IT!
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Im sure there is anotheer thread about this but I cant be arsed to find it
regarding McCain's postponeing [sp] the debate
Mccain is actually going to GO TO WORK and forgo the campaign?!?! So he can do his job and try to figure this out for Americans?
While Obama continues to avoid his duties as he has been doing since elected to office and continue the campaign partying with micheal moore et al.
Its High School all over again Mccain is just delaying coz he ascared.
Actually it sounds that negotiations on this were going along fine but have now stalled because McCain has decided to grandstand & needs to be seen having a hand in shaping this rescue package. Serious question, can anyone explain how this will speed things up?
Fair play!
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