RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Sarah Palin for VP

Or rather it's an example of debunking someone's affinity for hiding behind talking points in lieu of having no opinion of his own.

Would someone please post that quote reel of Whomod's steady metamorphosis from a McCain lover to a McCain hater? Don't forget to include how he all of a sudden thinks he's too old to be in politics (see also: he called him a "doddering fucker") even after saying how much he respected him.

No. Because while I think his mind is made up, he still essentially asks real questions and honest answers.

I'm still waiting for why 1) being a Muslim in general is bad and scary? 2) why an "America hater" runs for office, gives of his time and effort for decades to volunteerism, local office, state office and then national office when his Law degree basically opens the doors of the "elite' world and the elite bucks and 3) why the mainstream media has kept the lid on the fact that Obama hates America and wants to run for President to achieve his dastardly ends. I suppose they "Hate America" too.

Do you suppose the people who wrecked this economy and committed us to a preemptive war of choice based on cherry picked intel "Hate America" in any way? Or do they just make honest mistakes repeatedly? Me, I just think they're fundamentally wrong and dangerous to our county's future. but I don't subscribe anti-Americanism to them.

Now I can wait for these answers or frankly I can just think that you're a raving loony conspiracy nut who's swallowed too much far right kool Aid about how everyone not like a right wing Republican is "the enemy" and "hates America" and how the islamofascist obama wants to destroy America. That is if theres any America to destroy come January.

At the risk of me and everyone else who used to admire John McCain coming off like a broken record, let me repeat. McCain has reversed himself on HIS OWN positions, sometimes his own bills even since again seeking the GOP nomination.

You're just looking for anything to toss attack-wise as if that'll shut me up.

These McCain contradictions have been beyond well documented and discussed in the media.

It's amazing that this is still considered a credible line of attack. Many Americans in addition to myself, in fact a majority of them now, have reevaluated John McCain recently and they find him to be not so much "the maverick" now.

I actually agree with a lot of his opinions. My problem is that he's become an insufferable bitch, that's all. After finding out what he's made of during the botched raid his pals organized, I can't be arsed to read most of his posts because I have this image of him as a giant baby crying in a puddle of urine, so whatever it is he talks about all the time, it just sounds like whinning to me. Honestly, I see his name and I automatically hear a baby crying in my mind. I'm sure the exact same thing happened to a lot of the other posters here (and probably some of the ones in HIS board).

The problem with whomod is that he has blinders on to everything else when he makes up his mind about something. Everything he does no has to fall along party lines whether the conversation was about that or not. Franta, you may think that he's well researched, but that's only because he searches and posts those things that only back up his opinion even if they are from nutjob blogs. Let's not forget some of the highlights of whomod's posting past:

• Posting that our army would never capture Saddam Hussein, and then going back and editing his post to delete that statement after they did.

• Within a day or so after Hurricane Katrina devastated the coast, he decides that he needs to blame everything on George Bush. The levees didn't hold because of George Bush. Despite how many times other posters showed that Bush couldn't have prevented the levees from breaking no matter how much money he threw at it and constant requests not to politicize the event but to figure out a way to help those affected, whomod not only continued but actually insisted that the event be politicized so that he can take Kanye West style pot-shots at Bush. There's a personal 'fuck him' from me on that one.

• He insisted that National Guard troops fired at a crowd of black people and prevented them from leaving New Orleans after the hurricane as some show that Bush and Republicans hate the black folk and wanted to kill them. What was his research into this? He posted article after article that disproved his claims all while having a 'see there? I'm right' attitude about himself. When I pointed that out, he became pissy and still wouldn't admit to being wrong.

That's just off the top of my head right now. Forget the raid bullshit. whomod proved to me long ago that he's unable to see beyond his own prejudices. If you disagree with him on immigration or Obama, it's much simpler for him to say that you're a racist than to actually try and understand your difference of opinion. Thing is that before he went "Jack the 'lil Death" crazy on us, outside of the politics forum he, at one time, was able to pack away his insane political tirades and talk about other things like a normal, cool human being.

I can handle some razzing by either side, and that's what the 'praise allah crap' is. But I think there's a point where it stops being a jab and just starts being a bitter rant. I've voiced my displeasure with G-man about his posting style at times in the past. I've also told Sammitch that I think his little one sentence posts in an attempt to just hang on with the popular crowd without actually standing up and voicing an actual, thought-out opinion are weak and pathetic. PJP and I've gone head to head way back when he first got here over Gitmo. So this isn't about the fact that whomod is on the other side of the political aisle. It's about how he's presented himself here in the past. The multiple id's in an attempt to hide that it was him because he was too afraid to man up and admit that he couldn't quit coming to this board as he claimed in his last farewell post. Him editing his posts months after the fact to try to cover up that he said something wrong. The fact that people who even liked him in other forums about comics or music or even shared some of his political views were starting to get tired of him because of how he acted here is just further evidence that this isn't just about politics. If he agreed with me all of the time, I'd treat him the same way.

I can handle some razzing by either side, and that's what the 'praise allah crap' is. But I think there's a point where it stops being a jab and just starts being a bitter rant. I've voiced my displeasure with G-man about his posting style at times in the past. I've also told Sammitch that I think his little one sentence posts in an attempt to just hang on with the popular crowd without actually standing up and voicing an actual, thought-out opinion are weak and pathetic. PJP and I've gone head to head way back when he first got here over Gitmo. So this isn't about the fact that whomod is on the other side of the political aisle. It's about how he's presented himself here in the past. The multiple id's in an attempt to hide that it was him because he was too afraid to man up and admit that he couldn't quit coming to this board as he claimed in his last farewell post. Him editing his posts months after the fact to try to cover up that he said something wrong. The fact that people who even liked him in other forums about comics or music or even shared some of his political views were starting to get tired of him because of how he acted here is just further evidence that this isn't just about politics. If he agreed with me all of the time, I'd treat him the same way.

Forget the raid bullshit. whomod proved to me long ago that he's unable to see beyond his own prejudices. If you disagree with him on immigration or Obama, it's much simpler for him to say that you're a racist than to actually try and understand your difference of opinion. Thing is that before he went "Jack the 'lil Death" crazy on us, outside of the politics forum he, at one time, was able to pack away his insane political tirades and talk about other things like a normal, cool human being.

Palin's Pastor Problem
In the fine, new American tradition of presidential campaign "pastor disasters," Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin might have one she can call her very own, complete with its own sensational YouTube video and stunned cable TV commentary. You knew it was coming -- but probably didn't suspect it would involve witchcraft.

Back in the fall of 2005, when Palin was running for governor of Alaska, a Kenyan pastor named Thomas Muthee preached several times at Wasilla Assembly of God, Palin's church home for more than two decades. In one service, Palin joined Moothy onstage while he prayed for her.

"We say grace to be reigned upon her in the name of Jesus," Muthee prayed while Palin bowed her head. "We are asking you as the body of Christ in this valley make a way for Sarah even in the political arena . . . Bring finances her way even for the campaign in the name of Jesus . . . Give her men and women who will buck her up in the name of Jesus . . . Oh, Father, use her to turn this nation the other way around . . . "

So far, not that unusual. Intercessory public prayer is a common and often powerful form of encouragement and blessing in evangelical or Pentecostal settings, for politicians or anyone else. But Muthee goes on: "In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, every form of witchcraft is what you rebuke. In the name of Jesus, in the name of Jesus, father make away now."

Turns out, Muthee began his ministry with a witch hunt against a Kenyan woman who he accused of causing car accidents through demonic spells, according to the Christian Science Monitor, which first reported the story in 1999. Muthee publicly declared the woman "a witch responsible for the town's ills, and order her to offer her up her soul for salvation or leave Kiambu . . . The woman fled."

This past June, in a speech at Wasilla AOG, Palin gave credit to Muthee for her 2006 election victory. In another now-famous YouTube video, Palin says, "As I was mayor and Pastor Muthee was here and he was praying over me . . . He said 'Lord make a way and let her do this next step.' And that's exactly what happened."
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is this really the best they can come up with? let's see here - a vp candidate who heard a speaker rail about witchcraft once or twice versus a presidential candidate who spent two decades listening to a marxist hatemonger. that's a moral dilemma for you...

MEM is way behind the propaganda curb on this one. Whomod posted a YouTube clip about this b.s. a couple of days ago. And we pointed out how specious the left's argument on this was back then too.

As far as the witch Doctor, um I mean pastor...

It's pretty damn telling that your vaunted liberal 'sensitivity' for other races and cultures goes out the window when it gives you a chance to attack a Republican.

yes, thats more important than someones pastor hating america.

One trick pony, you are. Are you disappointed that you and a few extremists are the only people in America who still give a fuck about Reverend Wright?

Everyone else has moved on. You seem stuck in the primaries.

One trick pony, you are. Are you disappointed that you and a few extremists are the only people in America who still give a fuck about Reverend Wright?

Flounder all you want ...