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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
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 Originally Posted By: whomod
Still playing politics in the face of economic disaster.


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Hoo Boy. The bloodletting continues tonight on the CBS Evening News:



Katie Couric, in a segment to air tonight, asks Palin about her joke that she's been listening to Joe Biden's speeches since second grade, and whether that isn't an odd thing to say given her own running mate's age:

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"Oh no, it's nothing negative at all. He's got a lot of experience and just stating the fact there, that we've been hearing his speeches for all these years. So he's got a tremendous amount of experience and, you know, I'm the new energy, the new face, the new ideas and he's got the experience based on many many years in the Senate and voters are gonna have a choice there of what it is that they want in these next four years."


So Palin is now saying that she wasn't trying to say "don't vote for the old guy." Instead, she was trying to say "vote for the new guy, not the guy with the old face who's been in the Senate a really long time."

More fodder for Tina Fey. \:\)

Maybe McCain will rush to do another interview with Couric were he frames and answers all of Palin's questions for her again...



He was just a voter.

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It's really killing Katie that there's someone younger, prettier and more popular out there, isn't it?

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
It's really killing Katie that there's someone younger, prettier and more popular out there, isn't it?



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well, she certainly sounded much better in that video than the original interviews. really, i think the strategy of keeping palin less accessible to journalists is what hurt her most -- it then made what precious little she did say infinitely more important and noticeable, and thus open to internet criticism, the most vicious of them all.

it would have done her good to have more interviews and more time to get used to the process over the past few weeks. everyone has slip ups, but its the quantity of speeches that helps cover them.


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the danger in that too is the fact that for all intents and purpouses, Tina Fey, a comedian on TV has framed the image of Sarah Palin more in peoples minds than Sarah Palin herself did. And that is mostly due to the absence of the real deal to create her own image in peoples minds. In that vacuum, Fey becomes more 'real' than the actual person.

The fact that in her brief moments on TV she has created devastating gaffes would also be countered if you had even more positive interviews and press conferences to counter the bad ones. Quantity counters quality I would hope in this case. (playing devil's advocate mind you ;\) )

It's sort of a mess of McCain's own making right now, I think.




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The only people that SNL now are the people who watch it just to see tina fey make fun of sarah palin. Most people stopped watching that show years ago.


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whomod has a point, but only to the extent that he's admitting that the media is out to smear Palin for the sin of not being a traditional feminazi.

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What the hell are you talking about, Rush?

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i think SNL has the ability to characterize any famous individual, regardless of appearances. especially politicians (except, oddly, george dubya, really). dana carvey as bush 1 and perot was brilliant, darrell hammond as clinton (more so than hartman), etc. i think all of them have out-portrayed their inspirations to the point of blurring reality to the public. tina fey was perfect, so i don't think 1,000 palin speeches could have outweighed that, regardless.

still, palin should have (and still could be) throwing some more conversations out there to help spread the targets thinner


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
whomod has a point, but only to the extent that he's admitting that the media is out to smear Palin for the sin of not being a traditional feminazi.


Who is a tradional feminazi?

Any high level politician is going to get some rough treatment & she actually seems to be getting alot less than any of the others.


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Who is a traditonal feminazi?


Pelosi, Boxer, Hillary...

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Pelosi, Boxer, Hillary...


So really it's anyone a partisan republican would target anyways, but female.


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They're 'targeted,' in no small part, precisely because they are feminazis.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
They're 'targeted,' in no small part, precisely because they are feminazis.


Nope, when using such a Rush Limbaugh term don't even try to think you have chance of having a credible arguement.


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Rush is wrong on a lot of things but 'feminazi' is, quite possibly, his one lasting-and accurate-contribution to American political discourse.

There is a certain brand of 'feminist' who thinks that all women have to believe exactly the same, basically liberal, things to be considered 'liberated.' It doesn't matter what a woman might accomplish in her life, unless she embraces that liberal orthodoxy she's not worthy of respect according to 'those' feminsists.

Those are the feminazis.

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theyre usually ugly too.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081001/pl_politico/22742
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Michelle Malkin and World Net Daily have made a lot of noise today about the fact the Gwen Ifill, the moderator of Thursday's VP debate, has a new book coming on Inauguration day about Barack Obama and the politics of race -- it's now leading on the front of Drudge.

Fox's Greta Van Susteren reports that the McCain campaign didn't know about it.

"I am stunned….the campaign (actually both) should have been told before the campaign agreed to have her moderate. It simply is not fair -- in law, this would create a mistrial."

But one didn't have to go the lengths of oppo research to find out about a book that was hiding in plain sight on Amazon and the Random house website.

Not to mention, Ifill discussed it with Howard Kurtz last month in the Washington Post, in the only profile she's done before the debate. (And I'd imagine someone in the campaign should have read it).

To the extent she can carve out any spare time, Ifill is working on a book called "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama." She focuses on the Democratic nominee and such up-and-coming black politicians as Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

"We're very lazy when we think about race in this country," Ifill says. "We try to put it in a box. It's Jesse versus Al, or Jesse and Al versus everyone else," she says, referring to Jackson and Sharpton. "We love simplistic conflict. There's a whole group of people who have Ivy League degrees and immense accomplishments who actually benefited from the things their parents were fighting for."

Regardless, the story's getting major play on cable news, especially Fox.

This morning with Bill Hemmer, Fox analyst Juan Williams spoke admirably of Ifill as a journalist but admitted that "it looks like she has some investment" in the outcome of the election, and that "there's a perception problem." The FoxNews.com headline: "VP Debate Moderator Pens Pro-Obama Book."

I think Malkin and other critics have a right to raise questions about whether Ifill should be moderating, but at the same time, it's not as if the veteran PBS journalist has been keeping the book under wraps until now. It's also a logical question to ask whether an Obama book would sell better or worse depending on the outcome of the election. I don't think I'm going out on a limb to say that if Obama's sworn in on the Jan. 20 pub date, a book with "Obama" in the title will sell more copies.

Legitimate questions, indeed. So why is this coming up less than 36 hours before Palin and Biden hit the stage?

(h/t TVNewser who had this clip of Ifill discussing the book).

UPDATE: A spokesperson for PBS's NewsHour said that Ifill is en route to the debate in St. Louis. When asked whether Ifill might disclose that she's writing this book during the debate, the spokesperson said he had no knowledge that she would, and declined to comment further. I also have a call into the Commission on Presidential Debates, and will update if they have a comment.



I saw her on Meet the Press several times, she said some pretty inflammatory racist stuff about white people.

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I've always thought that feminists were quite pathetic. We have a rather famous feminist here in Denmark who is demanding that the government enact laws to ensure that ALL(!!!) companies have at least 25% ratio of female leaders on their board of directors...

Feminists are pathetic and useless to society. Why can't women just be women?




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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts

I saw her on Meet the Press several times, she said some pretty inflammatory racist stuff about white people.



Ifill or Malkin?

In any event, McCain still hasn't figured that the press, much like whomod, turned on his the second he clinched the nomination. He's still living under the delusion that the media will ever treat him fairly again.

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hi whomod, who's your friend?

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Yeah, I figured you meant Ifill, but I thought I would ask for clarification before whomod or somebody launched into a rant about how "Michelle Malkin hates white people" or something.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
theyre usually ugly too.


yes.

I typically just refer to them as the women in the flannel shirts.


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Y'know, The Flintstones wasn't a documentary.

The LA Times reports:

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Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.


After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.

The idea of a "young Earth" -- that God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago, and dinosaurs and humans coexisted early on -- is a popular strain of creationism.

Though in her race for governor she called for faith-based "intelligent design" to be taught along with evolution in Alaska's schools, Gov. Palin has not sought to require it, state educators say.


In a widely-circulated interview, Matt Damon said of Palin, "I need to know if she really think that dinosaurs were here 4000 years ago. I want to know that, I really do. Because she's gonna have the nuclear codes."



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That was already debunked as a complete lie. I can't believe the LA Times reported that as fact.....God Help Us.

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who debunked it?

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i cant believe that good will hunting is whomods politcal compass now!

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who debunked it?


Reality. You wouldn't know it.


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Debunked or not, the simple fact of the matter is that every single person who believes in a religion believes in something at odds with the conventional science. Every religion holds certain things as a matter of faith that are at odds with science.

Are we going to start banning all people who believe in religion from holding public office?

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except muslims, apparently.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Debunked or not, the simple fact of the matter is that every single person who believes in a religion believes in something at odds with the conventional science. Every religion holds certain things as a matter of faith that are at odds with science.

Are we going to start banning all people who believe in religion from holding public office?


That sounds like it hasn't been debunked yet. And a candidate's religion plays a role for most voters. The further away it gets from what the voter believes, the more of an issue it becomes. If that wasn't the case you & the others wouldn't waste so much time trying to turn Obama into a muslim.


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actually, as fun as it is to get a rise out of people by implying obama is a muslim, most republicans don't really believe he is. islamist sympathizer, quite possibly, but not a muslim. I feel the truth is much worse; obama's probably not a closet muslim, he's whatever his elite leftist handlers and the opinion polls tell him to be. he's a marxist hatemonger manufactured by marxist hatemongers and cleverly disguised as the liberal messiah.


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
actually, as fun as it is to get a rise out of people by implying obama is a muslim, most republicans don't really believe he is. islamist sympathizer, quite possibly, but not a muslim. I feel the truth is much worse; obama's probably not a closet muslim, he's whatever his elite leftist handlers and the opinion polls tell him to be. he's a marxist hatemonger manufactured by marxist hatemongers and cleverly disguised as the liberal messiah.


Yep.

Those kids singing in the video, the threats to charge critics. This shit is just beginning.

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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
actually, as fun as it is to get a rise out of people by implying obama is a muslim, most republicans don't really believe he is. islamist sympathizer, quite possibly, but not a muslim. I feel the truth is much worse; obama's probably not a closet muslim, he's whatever his elite leftist handlers and the opinion polls tell him to be. he's a marxist hatemonger manufactured by marxist hatemongers and cleverly disguised as the liberal messiah.


It's ok, I don't take you guys seriously so if your venom is pretend or fanatacism it doesn't really matter to me. It's just interesting that there is so much of it you guys spew collectively it's sort of impressive.


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