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Almost as impressive as your about face on Obama on the flimsiest of excuses.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
Almost as impressive as your about face on Obama on the flimsiest of excuses.


What did I about face on? Even when Hillary was still in the race I stilled called your "Obama is a muslim" crap on a regular basis.


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You're so far in the tank for Obama now that you probably need SCUBA gear just to breathe.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
You're so far in the tank for Obama now that you probably need SCUBA gear just to breathe.


Oooh the coward ducks the question, whatever.


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No ducking. You asked what you did an about face on. I answered Obama.

If need be, I'll expand: you went from accusing him of being unqualified and inexperienced, and critical of his ties with people like Rezko, to being one of his main defenders here.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
No ducking. You asked what you did an about face on. I answered Obama.

If need be, I'll expand: you went from accusing him of being unqualified and inexperienced, and critical of his ties with people like Rezko, to being one of his main defenders here.


It doesn't really take much to be considered a main defender for Obama on this board G-man. Rezko & his lack of experience are still points against him in my book. On the other hand you have always said crazy shit about him that even when he was up against Hillary I called you on. I'm not worshipping him but he's shown he's smart & capable enough for the job. I don't have to attack a moderator or interviewer if he doesn't do well like you do with Palin.


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so what exactly convinced you, mem? you were pretty set against the guy, so it must've taken something impressive on his part to bring you over to his side. was it something he said? a decision he made? something in his voting record? do tell.


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Reread the part where I said Obama has shown he's smart & capable enough for the job Cap.


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And you please reread the part where Sammitch asked what, exactly, Obama did to show that.
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was it something he said? a decision he made? something in his voting record? do tell.

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i think it was stealing the nomination.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081002/ap_o..._iLN7iCjgCs0NUE
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A women's shelter on Wednesday cut headliner Sandra Bernhard from its annual benefit after she said Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin would be gang-raped if she ever visited New York.

Bernhard's made the remarks last month during her one-woman show in Washington before Palin visited New York to campaign. Bernhard said Palin would be "gang-raped by my big black brothers" during a diatribe in which she also criticized Palin for opposing abortion rights.

Many guests at Rosie's Place, a Boston shelter, have been victims of violence, public relations director Leemarie Mosca said.

"In light of our mission, we don't think violence against women is a laughing matter," she said.

Mosca said the shelter expected to book a replacement before the Oct. 16 luncheon "Funny Women ... Serious Business."

"Right now, our main focus is our event and making sure the event is a success," Mosca said. "And for us, that means not including Sandra Bernhard at this time."

A representative for Bernhard had no immediate comment on the cancellation.
It really must pain her that she is so fugly that she had to turn gay. But really lashing out at Palin isn't the answer for her internal pain.

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...stealing the nomination...


No, MEM was pretty bitter about that for a long time. I think it was the fact that Palin's nomination meant that Hillary would probably not be the first female VP in US history.

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I also think it was the moment mem realized there were no other choices with a (D) after their names.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
And you please reread the part where Sammitch asked what, exactly, Obama did to show that.
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His policies are closer to what I want. While I like McCain & reallize he's not Bush's third term, there's still something like a 90 percent agreement with Bush that I could only vote for him if I felt Obama wasn't up to the job where it would hurt the country.


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Repeating a premise is not the same as explaining it.

Sammitch asked what Obama said or did to make you think he was up to the job.

You still haven't explained that (or, to use your words, you "ducked the question, coward"). Instead you've merely repeated that you've decided he's up to the job. without explaining why.

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And you please reread the part where Sammitch asked what, exactly, Obama did to show that.
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was it something he said? a decision he made? something in his voting record? do tell.


His policies are closer to what I want. While I like McCain & reallize he's not Bush's third term, there's still something like a 90 percent agreement with Bush that I could only vote for him if I felt Obama wasn't up to the job where it would hurt the country.


you mean like having among his advisers a former fannie mae ceo who helped contribute to the subprime crisis? or something else that would hurt the country?


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sammitch
I also think it was the moment mem realized there were no other choices with a (D) after their names.


The D represents a party platform that has many things I value. I suspect you vote for anything with an R after it for much the same reason.


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GO PALIN!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait for the VP debates tomorrow night!


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that's it I'm voting Obama!

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actually, as fun as it is to get a rise out of people by implying obama is a muslim, most republicans don't really believe he is. islamist sympathizer, quite possibly, but not a muslim. I feel the truth is much worse; obama's probably not a closet muslim, he's whatever his elite leftist handlers and the opinion polls tell him to be. he's a marxist hatemonger manufactured by marxist hatemongers and cleverly disguised as the liberal messiah.


It's ok, I don't take you guys seriously so if your venom is pretend or fanatacism it doesn't really matter to me. It's just interesting that there is so much of it you guys spew collectively it's sort of impressive.
about as impressive as you being able to think for yourself(sarcasm)......how can you be for Hilary and then support this horrible person? why? because the DNC told you to.

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I also think it was the moment mem realized there were no other choices with a (D) after their names.


The D represents a party platform that has many things I value. I suspect you vote for anything with an R after it for much the same reason.
I don't. I'm for gay rights...abortion rights....and amnesty for illegal aliens. I also would be not voting or voting for Nader if Romney was the nominee with an R after his name.

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if the Mormon dude had won the GOP and Hilary the Dem, I would have been voting Dem, most reasonable people aren't bound by party.

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Debunked or not, the simple fact of the matter is that every single person who believes in a religion believes in something at odds with the conventional science. Every religion holds certain things as a matter of faith that are at odds with science.

Are we going to start banning all people who believe in religion from holding public office?



did you catch the latest Couric segment? Palin was asked about Roe V Wade and she said she thought it was a state matter. Then Couric asked her about if she thinks the right to privacy is in the Constitution. And she replied in the affirmative. Then Couric had to tell her that that pretty much is the cornerstone of Roe V Wade.

Seriously, this woman is a complete moron.

I don't know which one this is. It might be the one where she asserts that she reads "all of them" in response to what newspapers she reads. She couldn't name one in particular of course.



Then back to Roe, she also couldn't name any other SC decision in addition to roe V Wade. She really should have been paying attention in the 9th grade.

Oh ok this is also the one where she makes a dig at Biden's age and then gets confronted about McCain's.

It's amazing to me how some Republicans are attracted rather than repelled and appalled at stupidity in charge of their country.

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Seriously, this woman is a complete moron.



"We are the ones we have been waiting for"

That's a quote from obama. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard and that's including everything you and the insurgency have said. It makes no damn sense.


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As far as it being discredited, (dinosaurs), I see not ONE source was cited. So it was just more talking out of ones ass.

She could deny it, her supporters could deny it, but that coupled with video of her getting the witch excorsized out of her by her witch doctor lends credence to it being true. She has wacky extreme beliefs outside the mainstream of this country and even the mainstream of Christianity.

Plus she's an idiot.

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As far as it being discredited, (dinosaurs), I see not ONE source was cited. So it was just more talking out of ones ass.

She could deny it, her supporters could deny it, but that coupled with video of her getting the witch excorsized out of her by her witch doctor lends credence to it being true. She has wacky extreme beliefs outside the mainstream of this country and even the mainstream of Christianity.

Plus she's an idiot.
So Biden will kick her ass tomorrow and Obama should win easily! Lighten up starting tomorrow you'll get your way. All the polls show Obama winning easily so you shouldn't be so mean to us. Maybe less venom since you are going to win!

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if not threads like this one will elicit quite a bit more lulz than they do now!


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 Originally Posted By: whomod
Palin was asked about Roe V Wade and she said she thought it was a state matter. Then Couric asked her about if she thinks the right to privacy is in the Constitution. And she replied in the affirmative. Then Couric had to tell her that that pretty much is the cornerstone of Roe V Wade.

Seriously, this woman is a complete moron.


The fact that one acknowledges a right does not mean that one has to agree with every court decision based on the claimed right.

For example, the right to Free Speech is clearly enunciated in the First Amendment of the US Constitution. Few would argue it doesn't exist.

However, over the years there have been court cases based on that right with which not everyone agrees. For example, campaign finance reform.

The same could be said for most other constitutional rights. Reasonable people can recognize a right but disagree on how the courts apply that right.

Accordingly, there is nothing particularly controversial, or ignorant, of Palin (or anyone else) acknowelding a privacy right but disagreeing with decisions interpreting it. In fact, such disagreements are often more common than not even among constitutional scholars and legal professionals.

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I also think it was the moment mem realized there were no other choices with a (D) after their names.


The D represents a party platform that has many things I value. I suspect you vote for anything with an R after it for much the same reason.
I don't. I'm for gay rights...abortion rights....and amnesty for illegal aliens. I also would be not voting or voting for Nader if Romney was the nominee with an R after his name.


I stayed home when Dukakis was on the ticket & I've voted Indy when Ventura ran, so we're not that different in that way actually.


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As far as it being discredited, (dinosaurs), I see not ONE source was cited. So it was just more talking out of ones ass.

She could deny it, her supporters could deny it, but that coupled with video of her getting the witch excorsized out of her by her witch doctor lends credence to it being true. She has wacky extreme beliefs outside the mainstream of this country and even the mainstream of Christianity.

Plus she's an idiot.
So Biden will kick her ass tomorrow and Obama should win easily! Lighten up starting tomorrow you'll get your way. All the polls show Obama winning easily so you shouldn't be so mean to us. Maybe less venom since you are going to win!


I'm not assuming anything about the debate nor do I think Palin's an idiot. My guess is there will be lowered expectations on how well Palin will do & she'll probably do much better than expected. This isn't her first time at a debate.

As an aside, I think it's recognized that President Bush lost most of his debates.


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Oh I understand perfectly that they'll declare a win if she just manages to answer coherently and not pass out or else give that deer in headlight look in the entire 90 minutes.

Plus the whole Gwen Ivers controversy is just IMo an attempt to get another moderator, i'm thinking a MALE one. It's much harder to lob accusations of sexism, or to have Palin appear as the victim of two mean men against her , when you have a woman asking you the hard questions.

Already today you had G-Man basically say that Palin's disastrous performances on TV were the fault of Charles Gibson and Katie Couric. Never mind the fact that they were pretty much puff pieces compared to a real press grilling that McCain has shielded her from for weeks already.

And how then if it was the bad biased reporters making her look bad do you explain her sounding just as hapless on Sean Hannity's fawning softball questions interview?

So if she does bad, expect more of G-man's tack from today blaming Gwen's evil liberal bias. I expect her to do pretty decent-wise as far as basic repeating McCain policy points goes. Hopefully she'll be challenged to clarify on the whole rape kits, religious beliefs VS public policy, and 'Putin rearing his head over Alaska' stuff. Plus it'd be nice if see could name just 1 Supreme Court case that she's aware of besides Roe V Wade. Especially since she's had time to mull it over some. Or just get some left field policy questions that won't be able to be answered by simply repeating memorized stump speech lines.

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As far as it being discredited, (dinosaurs), I see not ONE source was cited. So it was just more talking out of ones ass.

She could deny it, her supporters could deny it, but that coupled with video of her getting the witch excorsized out of her by her witch doctor lends credence to it being true. She has wacky extreme beliefs outside the mainstream of this country and even the mainstream of Christianity.

Plus she's an idiot.
So Biden will kick her ass tomorrow and Obama should win easily! Lighten up starting tomorrow you'll get your way. All the polls show Obama winning easily so you shouldn't be so mean to us. Maybe less venom since you are going to win!


I don't think it's so much venom coming from any glee as it is anger that John McCain who talks repeatedly of putting 'country first', foisted this clown upon us in the 1st place because he was looking for a stunt to quicken his comatose campaign rather than actually putting country first.

Despite your pessimism, there is still a very real possibility that McCain can win and given the fact that he's very old and even though some of you discount all the reports of his deteriorating health, he doesn't appear to be doing so well in some peoples eyes. Plus statistically, he's not looking at great odds either. So this numbskull, chosen for political theatre rather than for basic competence may very well be our next President. And that's starting to scare people both on the left and on the right.

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He could still win but he is definitely the underdog from here on out. I am preparing myself for a loss this way I am not disappointed the next day. I am leaving for vacation with my wife on election day....we are voting and getting on a plane ......so whoever wins the next few days afterwards I will be getting sun and r and r and not really care either way.

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As far as it being discredited, (dinosaurs), I see not ONE source was cited. So it was just more talking out of ones ass.

She could deny it, her supporters could deny it, but that coupled with video of her getting the witch excorsized out of her by her witch doctor lends credence to it being true. She has wacky extreme beliefs outside the mainstream of this country and even the mainstream of Christianity.

Plus she's an idiot.
So Biden will kick her ass tomorrow and Obama should win easily! Lighten up starting tomorrow you'll get your way. All the polls show Obama winning easily so you shouldn't be so mean to us. Maybe less venom since you are going to win!


I'm not assuming anything about the debate nor do I think Palin's an idiot. My guess is there will be lowered expectations on how well Palin will do & she'll probably do much better than expected. This isn't her first time at a debate.

As an aside, I think it's recognized that President Bush lost most of his debates.
totally he looked like an idiot compared to Gore....he did better against Kerry but at the most you could call those a draw. But people are voting on the issues and not who is a better speaker so in those cases that is why he did well at the voting polls.

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Fatwa Issued on Pakistan President for Flirting With Palin

"Finally, religious extremism I can get behind!
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Fatwa Issued on Pakistan President for Flirting With Palin

"Finally, religious extremism I can get behind!
Sincerely,
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Oh I'm sorry G-man, I didn't know those crazies needed an excuse to try to kill the Pakistani President. I thought they blew up a Mariott hotel recently just on old info that he was holding a meeting there that day.

But never let it be said G-man (or the right for that matter) ever pass up an opportunity to try to link their "liberal" foes to terrorists.

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Never let it be said the left passed up a opportunity to launch their political careers in the home of a terrorist.

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Oh I understand perfectly that they'll declare a win if she just manages to answer coherently and not pass out or else give that deer in headlight look in the entire 90 minutes.

Plus the whole Gwen Ivers controversy is just IMo an attempt to get another moderator, i'm thinking a MALE one. It's much harder to lob accusations of sexism, or to have Palin appear as the victim of two mean men against her , when you have a woman asking you the hard questions.

Already today you had G-Man basically say that Palin's disastrous performances on TV were the fault of Charles Gibson and Katie Couric. Never mind the fact that they were pretty much puff pieces compared to a real press grilling that McCain has shielded her from for weeks already.

And how then if it was the bad biased reporters making her look bad do you explain her sounding just as hapless on Sean Hannity's fawning softball questions interview?

So if she does bad, expect more of G-man's tack from today blaming Gwen's evil liberal bias. I expect her to do pretty decent-wise as far as basic repeating McCain policy points goes. Hopefully she'll be challenged to clarify on the whole rape kits, religious beliefs VS public policy, and 'Putin rearing his head over Alaska' stuff. Plus it'd be nice if see could name just 1 Supreme Court case that she's aware of besides Roe V Wade. Especially since she's had time to mull it over some. Or just get some left field policy questions that won't be able to be answered by simply repeating memorized stump speech lines.

Here's Palin's Greatest Hits Vol. I



Vol. II, an even funnier or scarier one depending on how close you think this race actually is, was aired tonight on Olbermann's show. His Greatest Hits clips were more of the disastrous interviews she's done of late rather than of her 'misstatements' on the campaign trail that this one had.

As soon as it's YouTubed, I'll post it for your (or rather, MY) entertainment.




PALIN'S GREATEST HITS VOL. II










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