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The McCain campaign is now saying that the Keating Five investigation was 'a political smear job' on John McCain!

Holy crap.

I'm listening to the McCain campaign conference call about John McCain's involvement in the Keating Five scandal. McCain's lawyer just said that the Keating Five investigation was "political" as it concerned John McCain. He shouldn't even have been admonished by the Senate, his lawyer says.

Then McCain's lawyer dropped the real bomb.

The Keating Five Investigation was "a political smear job on John [McCain]." WTF? He called Howell Heflin, who led the hearings, a "stooge" of the Democratic machine out to get poor, innocent John McCain.

This opens up the entire question of McCain's supposed contrition. If McCain thinks he did nothing wrong, and that it was wrong for the Senate to scold him for his actions during the Keating Five Scandal, then he isn't contrite at all, he isn't sorry at all. He's learned nothing. You can't turn a new leaf when you don't think you did anything wrong. This is one hell of an admission. Get more on the Keating Five Scandal at the new Obama campaign Web site, KeatingEconomics.com And here is the Obama campaign's new documentary about McCain's involvement in this ethics scanda (if the video isn't loading well, it may be because of the absurd amount of traffic trying to watch it - use this link instead if you're having a problem):


Ben Smith at Politico.com weighs in on this shocking news that McCain is now saying the Keating Five investigation was a set-up, a witch hunt, a partisan smear job, and that he did nothing wrong.

Iggy correctly pointed out last night that the other guys involved were Democrats. Someone should have sent the McCain team the memo though. It was actually 'a witch hunt conducted by a "stooge of the Democrats'! Just goes to show what miserable desperate, unrepentant, lying fucks the McCain campaign is.

But if McCain did nothing wrong, then why did he admit all these years to making a giant mistake during the Keating Five fiasco, a mistake that supposedly made McCain the maverick he is today? Or was McCain's giant mistake admitting guilt and taking ownership of his character flaws?

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I'd always thought McCain's great strength in defending the Keating affair was that he'd acknolwedged making a huge mistake, and spent his career repenting by recasting himself as a reformer.

So when his campaign puts his lawyer on the line with reporters to contest the details of a congressional inquiry that, largely, let McCain off the hook, doesn't that cloud the sin-confession-atonement dynamic a bit?

In Halperin's account, McCain lawyer John Dowd described McCain's "former relationship with Charles Keating as 'social friends,'" and called the situation a "classic political smear job on John."

Dowd also "thinks that the committee went too far in suggesting that McCain’s intervention with regulators was poor judgment," Halperin writes.

But if so, what's this giant mistake that transformed McCain into a reformer?


And as Ben noted earlier, McCain's Keating Five admission is the ENTIRE basis of his maverick brand:

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[I]n his 2002 autobiography, "the worst mistake of my life." He remade himself as a reformer in reaction to the scandal. McCain's case isn't that you should ignore his sin, or that it isn't a sin; it's that he's expiated it.


Not any more. It's George Bush all over again. Don't own up to anything. Deny everything. There are no facts that can' be disputed - even 20 year old facts that you've already copped to. Amazing.

Well so much for today being about Ovbama and Ayers. It's still the economy and John McCain's failure to understand or learn from his own mistakes.

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It's actually looking real sad, what you guys fall back to when your candidate is imploding.

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I'm a little with Whomod on this one. The McCain Campaign probably shouldn't have come straight out and attacked this and McCain's involvement with the scandal as a political smear job. They would've been better off letting outside supporters attack that way while McCain just stayed cool and said, "Yeah, I fucked up. I'm sorry. But, I've changed in the past twenty years."

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McCain's strategist said today to the NY Daily News: "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose.".
The McCain campaign just does not want to talk about the economy. In their world view, it's a bad political issue that with some political maneuvering can be side-stepped. But that ignores the fact that in the real world, the economy is THE issue. Seriously, there is no comprehension on the GOP side over how the failing economy is directly affecting the American people. The Republicans think by going negative they change the subject:

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McCain's course correction reflects a growing case of nerves within his high command as the electoral map has shifted significantly in Obama's favor in the past two weeks.

"It's a dangerous road, but we have no choice," a top McCain strategist told the Daily News. "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."


Stop talking about the economic crisis and you're going to lose, too.

And, as I write this, the Dow is down over 600 points, so I think, and this is just a guess, that people are still going to be talking about the economy for the next couple weeks and not so much about Reverend Wright and some vague acquaintance with Ayers.

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I'm becoming more and more convinced that McCain is the sacrificial lamb by Republicans to make up for the past eight years. I guess that is what you get for being a "maverick."

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yeah we discussed this earlier, let the moderate sink, so that when Barack tries to destroy the country they can get a neocon in, the problem is what if Barack's damage is irreversible?

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Geez, even we independent/third party voters are screwed?

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Wait'll the senior citizens get a load out of this....

The Wall Street Journal writes that McCain plans to pay for his bogus health care plan by cutting Medicare/Medicaid. Again, from the Wall Street Journal, no less:

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John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs....

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain's senior policy adviser, said Sunday that the campaign has always planned to fund the tax credits, in part, with savings from Medicare and Medicaid. Those government health-care programs serve seniors, poor families and the disabled.


I mean, it's not like seniors need health care. Look at McCain, he's 72 and fit as a fiddle. Well, an erratic angry fiddle that's had cancer 4 times and can't remember what he just said, where he's going, or what continent Spain is located in. Of course though, McCain gets a different kind of socialized health care anyways. So as far as he's concerned, seniors can go eat cake.

They need to run this in Florida along with ads abut Palin's anti semetic pastors.

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Wait'll the senior citizens get a load out of this....

The Wall Street Journal writes that McCain plans to pay for his bogus health care plan by cutting Medicare/Medicaid. Again, from the Wall Street Journal, no less:

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John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs....

Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Sen. McCain's senior policy adviser, said Sunday that the campaign has always planned to fund the tax credits, in part, with savings from Medicare and Medicaid. Those government health-care programs serve seniors, poor families and the disabled.


I mean, it's not like seniors need health care. Look at McCain, he's 72 and fit as a fiddle. Well, an erratic angry fiddle that's had cancer 4 times and can't remember what he just said, where he's going, or what continent Spain is located in. Of course though, McCain gets a different kind of socialized health care anyways. So as far as he's concerned, seniors can go eat cake.

They need to run this in Florida along with ads abut Palin's anti semetic pastors.


That's okay. Obama gets the same health care that many dead people in attendance at his rallies get.

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Oh boy, better look out for yet another erratic stunt by McCain. Even his business supporters aren't impressed with the McCain health care plan that will cost even more and do nothing to help the uninsured. Does anyone even care about "tax credits" anymore? That has to be the oldest trick in the book in Washington because it does so little to even impact taxes, unless maybe you're worth hundreds of millions and have the serious tax credits. What good is a stingy $5,000 tax credit when family coverage is over $12,000 per year? Only an aloof millionaire sitting on a dozen houses and teams of attorneys and tax accountants would think this plan is good for regular families.

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Over the weekend, Mr. Obama more accurately characterized the McCain plan as a swap but one that would work to the detriment of millions. Middle-class families, he said, would “watch the system they rely on begin to unravel before their eyes.”

The business leaders said that was also their fear. Despite steady declines this decade, employers still provide coverage to 62 percent of Americans younger than 65. Surveys show that they want to continue doing so to attract and maintain a productive workforce.

The business leaders forecast that Mr. McCain’s free-market approach would impose particular burdens on small businesses and old-line manufacturers that are already struggling.

“To some in the business community, this is very discomforting,” said R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president for government affairs at the Chamber of Commerce. “The private marketplace, in my opinion, is ill prepared today with an infrastructure for an individual-based health insurance system.”

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Action star, and Republican, Chuck Norris said this, this past January, which Mike Huckabee looking on and not objecting:

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"Chuck Norris brought his tough-guy approach to the campaign trail Sunday, taking aim at John McCain's age and suggesting the Arizona senator might not last even a single term. Norris, an ardent supporter of Mike Huckabee, told reporters he believes serving as president accelerates the aging process 3-to-1. 'If John takes over the presidency at 72 and he ages 3-to-1, how old will he be in four years? Eighty-four years old — and can he handle that kind of pressure in that job?' Norris said, as Huckabee looked on. 'That's why I didn't pick John to support, because I'm just afraid the vice president will wind up taking over his job within that four-year presidency.' added the action star."


President Palin taking over the reins of the finance crisis, anyone? It's okay, you don't need to retire anyway.

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if elected Obama would be President right off the bat, he has the experience of a toddler.

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 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
if elected Obama would be President right off the bat, he has the experience of a toddler.




I can see why you like Sarah Palin. Both of you talk in nonsensical run on's.

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i can see why you like Obama, youre a racist...

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Action star, and Republican, Chuck Norris said this, this past January, which Mike Huckabee looking on and not objecting:

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"Chuck Norris brought his tough-guy approach to the campaign trail Sunday, taking aim at John McCain's age and suggesting the Arizona senator might not last even a single term. Norris, an ardent supporter of Mike Huckabee, told reporters he believes serving as president accelerates the aging process 3-to-1. 'If John takes over the presidency at 72 and he ages 3-to-1, how old will he be in four years? Eighty-four years old — and can he handle that kind of pressure in that job?' Norris said, as Huckabee looked on. 'That's why I didn't pick John to support, because I'm just afraid the vice president will wind up taking over his job within that four-year presidency.' added the action star."


President Palin taking over the reins of the finance crisis, anyone? It's okay, you don't need to retire anyway.


I must have missed the episode of Walker: Texas Ranger where Chuck got his MD.


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it was right after the one where the MSNBC debate coverage team got their doctorates in political science.


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i can see why you like Obama, youre a racist...


and hate America...

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and whomod got his Associates Degree in Fuckbitchery.


I've heard about that one. It's an online program full of Youtube videos and super-bold text given by one teacher who uses multiple ids to pretend to be several different instructors who deny they even know each other.


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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During the first presidential debate, John McCain repeatedly emphasized his love of veterans — and their fondness for him in return. “I’ll take care of them. And they know I’ll take care of them,” he said. McCain frequently exaggerates his level of support for and from veterans groups, claiming to have “received the highest award from literally every veteran’s organization in America” and to have “a perfect voting record” on veterans’ issues. Watch a compilation:



Today, the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America released its congressional scorecard for the 110th Congress, and awarded McCain a grade of “D” for his votes against veterans’ priorities. The grade makes McCain one of only four Senators to fall on IAVA’s “D List” — and marks a repeat performance for him, after receiving a “D” for his 109th congressional voting record as well.

IAVA hammered McCain for refusing to co-sponsor Sen. Jim Webb’s 21st Century G.I. Bill. In fact, the IAVA highlighted the weaker alternative proposed by Sen. Lindsey Graham — and endorsed by McCain — as “an effort to derail the popular and bipartisan” GI Bill proposed by Webb. “Thankfully,” the IAVA writes, “the Senate voted forcefully, 55-42, to kill” the Graham-McCain proposal.

IAVA’s score adds to other groups who have criticized McCain’s abysmal record on veterans’ issues. McCain has received a 20 percent vote rating from the Disabled Veterans of America, while the Vietnam Veterans of America noted McCain had “voted against us” in 15 “key votes.”

So to recap:

— Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave McCain a grade of D for his record of voting against veterans. (By contrast, Obama got a B+.)

– Disabled Veterans of America noted McCain’s dismal 20 percent voting record on veterans’ issues. (Obama had an 80 percent.)

– In a list of “Key Votes,” Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) notes McCain “Voted Against Us” 15 times and “Voted For Us” only 8. (Obama voted for VVA 12 times, and against only once.)

McCain frequently cites his own experience as a POW in Vietnam as the ultimate evidence of his dedication to his fellow veterans. Unfortunately, his record belies his rhetoric.

McCain Speech Disrupted by Iraq War Vet - Adam Kokesh


Y'know simply LYING about your record with vets and chanting "USA" like a bunch of mindless automatons doesn't make you a friend of veterans. It's funny how Obama who has a much better record according to veterans groups doesn't try to wrap himself and leech off their patriotism. McCain wraps himself with the generic "support the troops" slogan that most right wingers do and then just votes against them and then lies.

"USA! "USA"!"


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I've never heard of that group. Are you sure it wasn't made up specifically to support Democrats?

Where do the VFW and American Legion Stand?

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I've never heard of that group. Are you sure it wasn't made up specifically to support Democrats?

Where do the VFW and American Legion Stand?


The VFW and American Legion do not compile congressional voting records nor do they endorse candidates.

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So, I was right. This is some specially created interest group, created to "hit" McCain. Thanks for admitting it.

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"group"?

I listed various well respected and well known veterans groups. But of course if they say McCain voted against vets, they must be partisan because Republicans having a slogan like "support the troops" and a car magnet automatically makes it so.

Now if I wanted to put the opinion of a "partisan" group, then I would have listed VoteVets.com But I didn't.

But go ahead and try to obfuscate for McCain. It's what right wingers do best.

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It only took about 60 seconds of research to find out that the founder of the 'Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America' group is a frequent contributor to Air America....you know, the openly liberal radio network.

You still want to claim it isn't a liberal "hit" group?

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It only took about 60 seconds of research to find out that the founder of the 'Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America' group is a frequent contributor to Air America....you know, the openly liberal radio network.

You still want to claim it isn't a liberal "hit" group?


Uh huh.

And Juan Williams is a frequent contributor to FOX news but today I heard him being called a "liberal" by PJP.

Pat Buchanan is a frequent contributor to MSNBC, the "left wing" news channel according to conservatives, but I still hear him being called a conservative Republican.

obfuscate, G-Man, obfuscate.

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Yesterday, from the McCain campaign:

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"If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose."


McCain desperately wants to change the subject from the economic crisis. Not going to happen.

The Dow dropped another 500 points today. I may be going out on a limb here, but I think people are still talking about the economic crisis. In fact, I think people are talking about it more this week than last week. After Bush signed the bailout bill, there was an expectation that things would at least start to get better -- but no one is seeing that yet.



So much for this week being about William Ayers.

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