Palin was cleared in trooper gate, you really shouldn't be so bitter.
Whatever... Figures liars back up other liars.
Now you guys ever get the feeling that I'm on to something when I say that you guys are extremists and you follow extremists on the right? Extremists like this crazy bitch?
Originally Posted By: whomod
Originally Posted By: PJP
If nothing else this election has made prouder than ever to be a Republican. I know I am not alone either. I believe the sane part of the country will fight back these last 17 days and take back our country from these elitist snobs and stop this coup d'etat and attempted coronation of the weakest Presidential candidate in the history of this country.
Amen.
This election proved to me that the damage done by AM hate radio and FOX News has almost completely taken over the Republican Party to the point here it's now fringe loony central. Yesterday on hardball one of your lunatic right wing Representatives, Michelle Bachmann was on and spouting pure unadulterated hate for close to 10 minutes and casting aspersions on Democrats as being anti-American. Which echoes your charges PJP. That is the definition of extremism. Where any opposition is considered an enemy of the state.
This is why you guys need to lose this election. This is McCarthyism. This borders on fascism actually. And it's not isolated. This is what you guys here say, this is what AM hate radio spews daily an this is what FOX news encourages. And then they have the audacity to call themselves mainstream and the Democrats, Obama, "The left" the media" etc. etc., extremist, with a straight face too..
And as for the "elitists", you still need to explain to me how the guy with at least 7 houses and the heiress wife is the common man and the guy who has only one house, was raised by a single mother who at one point had to go on public assistance, just paid off his student loans and just recently made his money by writing books is the "elitist". It doesn't work, but that's ok, that's another common Republican talking point that they trot out election after election.
You'd think since the Obama camp is ready for all the gOp dirty tricks they employ over and over again, that you'd catch on by now as well.
Now of course Colin Powell endorsed Obama today. Wanna know what reasons he cited? Here's video and a transript, in case you still don't get it.
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Q: Sir, what role did McCain's negativity play in your decision?
POWELL: It troubled me. You know, we have two wars. We have economic problems. We have health problems. We have education problems. We have infrastructure problems. We have problems around the world with our allies. And so those are the problems the American people wanted to hear about, not about Mr. Ayers, not about who is a Muslim and who's not a Muslim. Those kinds of images going out on al Jazeera are killing us around the world. And we have got to say to the world it doesn't make any difference who you are or what you are. If you're an American you're an American.
And this business of, for example, a congressman from Minnesota who's going around saying let's examine all congressmen to see who is pro-America or not pro-America. We have got to stop this kind of nonsense and pull ourselves together and remember that our great strength is in our unity and in our diversity. And so that really was driving me. And to focus on people like Mr. Ayers, these trivial issues for the purpose of suggesting that somehow Mr. Obama would have some kind of terrorists' inclinations, I thought that was over the top. It was beyond just good political fighting back and forth. I think it went beyond. And then to sort of throw in this subtle Muslim connection. You know, he's a Muslim and a terrorist. And it was taking root. And we can't judge our people and we can't hold our elections on that kind of basis. And so yes, that kind of negativity troubles me and the constant shifting of the argument.
I was troubled a couple of weeks ago when in the middle of the crisis the campaign said we're going to go negative and they announced it. We're going to go negative and attack his character through Bill Ayers. And now I guess the message this week is we're going to call him a socialist. Mr. Obama is now a socialist because he dares to suggest that maybe we ought to look at the tax structure that we have. Taxes are always a redistribution of money. Most of the taxes that are redistributed go back to those who pay it in roads and airports and hospitals and schools. And taxes are necessary for the common good. And there's nothing wrong with examining what our tax structure is or who should be paying more, who should be paying less. And for us to say that makes you a socialist I think is an unfortunate characterization that isn't accurate. And I don't want my taxes raised. I don't want anybody else's taxes raised. But I also want to see our infrastructure fixed. I don't want to have a $12 trillion national debt and I don't want to see an annual deficit that's over $500 billion heading toward a trillion. So how do we deal with all of this?
You guys are fucking yourselves with the sane part of America and you guys are so far gone to the loony extreme right that you can't even see it. So it's sort of rich when the crazies call anyone else not like them, the 'extremists". A majority of Americans, and now General Colin Powell vehemently disagree.
I wonder how your hate radio stations and FOX will try to spin Powells comments to pivot back to Obama hatred and baseless smears, where they're the most happy.
He went on a lengthy interview after his Meet the Press appearance to denounce Palin's selection, to denounce the smears from the McCain camp regarding Ayers and calling obama a Muslim. He also denounced that sort of anti-Muslim bigotry and said that it hurts us internationally.
Must suck to have it thrown in your faces like that, eh? Especially since you guys wholeheartedly embrace all those things.
It might be a good idea for the folks from the McCain campaign to take a day off, take a breath, and then return to work. Republicans unaffiliated with the campaign tell me the "bunker" mentality there is really starting to hurt them.
To wit: McCain senior adviser Nancy Pfotenhauer on MSNBC today.
"As a proud resident of Oakton, Virginia, I can tell you that the Democrats have just come in from the District of Columbia and moved into northern Virginia," Pfotenhauer said, speaking of Democratic gains in that part of the state. "And that's really what you see there.
"But the rest of the state, 'real Virginia,' if you will, I think will be very responsive to Senator McCain’s message," she continued.
Somebody ought to tell Nancy that one of the McCain's many homes is in Northern Virginia - so I guess John McCain is somehow unAmerican too?
You crazed right wingers aern't going to be happy until you restart the Confederacy, i guess.
Just in case anyone is still wondering if these Republians are interested in doing anything but dividing us. Remember a few days ago, Sarah Palin made cracks about the parts of the country that aern't "Pro-America". That strongly implies that only red states or counties are "pro America" and anyone having a dissenting view from these crazies is of course "anti-American".
Joe McCain, John's brother referred to Arlington and Alexandria as "Communist country". This hatred, division, and extremism is what's most likely to make news, and help Team Obama drive up Democratic turnout in the battleground state.
I seriously doubt that the tone of you crazed lunatics is going to change since this is the stuff you feed on from FOX news and Rush Limbaugh. That only you guys are "pro-America and anyone not in agreement with you crazies is "anti-American". I read it here, I hear it in Palin speeches, I hear it in McCain crowds. It's the extremism and McCathyism that drives the gOP nowadays.
And you're losing more and more support from sane people because of it.
He went on a lengthy interview after his Meet the Press appearance to denounce Palin's selection, to denounce the smears from the McCain camp regarding Ayers and calling obama a Muslim. He also denounced that sort of anti-Muslim bigotry and said that it hurts us internationally.
Must suck to have it thrown in your faces like that, eh? Especially since you guys wholeheartedly embrace all those things.
October. Meet surprise.
I didn't give you permission to address me directly!
crazed hatred extremist right meme crazed right wingers Confederacy these crazies hatred, division, and extremism crazed lunatics FOX news and Rush Limbaugh. extremism and McCathyism
in case you happen upon a history book sometime, you might discover that the confederacy was founded by members of the democrat party who were considered fairly mainstream.
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And you're losing more and more support from sane people because of it.
He went on a lengthy interview after his Meet the Press appearance to denounce Palin's selection, to denounce the smears from the McCain camp regarding Ayers and calling obama a Muslim. He also denounced that sort of anti-Muslim bigotry and said that it hurts us internationally.
Must suck to have it thrown in your faces like that, eh? Especially since you guys wholeheartedly embrace all those things.
October. Meet surprise.
Yeah a black man endorsing another black man is a HUGE surprise. Quite honestly if I was Black I'd vote for Obama no mater what to.
But incidentaly Colin Powell is one of the main reasons we went to war with Iraq. He was the man that sold it to America. The Obama campaign now has more in common with Bush than McCain.
But incidentaly Colin Powell is one of the main reasons we went to war with Iraq. He was the man that sold it to America. The Obama campaign now has more in common with Bush than McCain.
But incidentaly Colin Powell is one of the main reasons we went to war with Iraq. He was the man that sold it to America. The Obama campaign now has more in common with Bush than McCain.
i'd not realised that, I find it quite interesting, because over here it was reported thatPowell was the strongest anti-Iraq war voice int he Bush administration. I suppose we didn't get the "selling the war" stuff over here, we had Tony Blair doing it.
Powell was the administration official here who went to the UN and explained the whole "Iraq and weapons of mass destruction" argument.
Until he endorsed Obama, he was an anathema to the left, who considered him a sellout for doing so.
Now that he wisely chose to supplicate himself before the new regime he is back in their good graces.
You really didn't listen to the Meet the Press interview did you? While it's true that Powell was instrumental in selling this war to the UN and the American public, he himself , to quote him thought the intel he was presenting was "bullshit ("i'm not saying this, this is bullshit"" but did it anyway out of loyalty to the office of the President. He has since admitted that and shown remorse for misleading the American public into war.
Here was one instance where his own press detail tried to censor him for doing so.
and one where he said he was misled:
So I can see why he did so complete a break with the gOp. It's devolved into something dishonorable and in his words "narrow". It's essentially a groupthink McCarthyite mob now that wants to investigate people for being "UnAmerican" and tries to smear people with "associations' no matter how limited. This is the 1950's redux.
McCain has always been a pragmatist centrist Republican and was no friend to the neoconservatives who ginned up the evidence for war and relied on Ahmed Chalabi and his informant "curveball" for their bullshit intel. Powell clearly stated his many reasons for endorsing Obama including one fact i've harped on here these past few days, this move to the far extremist right by the Republican party to the exclusion of any dissenting or contrary opinions. You may want to see the ENTIRE Meet the Press segment from yesterday. He didn't leave any ambiguity as to his reasoning.
Now I thought that part where he mentions Muslims in general and that one Muslim Iraq war soldier that is buried at Arlington specifically was powerful. Powerful and necessary to say since you guys on the far right routinely go on spiels about how just being Muslim in general is some great crime.
The gOp is fucking themselves with their extremism. I'm happy to see it but i'm unhappy that it is happening in this country at all Where roughly 1/4 of this country is under the thrall of all this hate that the prty has devolved to. And that's not just whomod and liberal opinion. This is also being echoed by more and more Republicans who haven't drank the extremist right wing kool-Aid.
Here he is after the interview even further clarifying his reasoning. And he mentioned that crazed right wing Congresswoman who wants to investigate "unAmericanism" in Congress specifically that helped influence his decision to endorse Obama:
Pretty soon the gOp is just going to be a small mob of crazed people convinced that everyone is being brainwashed by the Muslims!
Exactly. According to your version of events, Powell went out and lied to the UN even though he thought what he was saying was "bullshit," but now that he's endorsed Obama all is forgiven by the fellow travelers of the coming regime.
Smart move on Powell's part, to curry favor in advance of the upcoming loyalty trials.
Exactly. According to your version of events, Powell went out and lied to the UN even though he thought what he was saying was "bullshit," but now that he's endorsed Obama all is forgiven by the fellow travelers of the coming regime.
Smart move on Powell's part, to curry favor in advance of the upcoming loyalty trials.
If anything, I wish Dick Cheney good health so he won't die and be the next William Casey. And I hope Powell has further many many more pangs of conscience in the coming years. We may yet put away all these war criminals.
If anything, I wish Dick Cheney good health so he won't die and be the next William Casey. And I hope Powell has further many many more pangs of conscience in the coming years. We may yet put away all these war criminals.
You tell them, Brother whomod! Death to those that would oppose Obama and stay in the way of the new Muslim order!!!
“It looked like it had been shot in the head as best we can tell. A couple of Obama campaign signs had been stapled together and stuck over its head,” [Tom] Johnson [Johnson, chief of university police] said....
“This is certainly unacceptable,” Johnson said. “Someone was wanting to draw attention to the election. If we find out who they are, we’ll make sure they’ll get some attention themselves.”
At some point, the Republican party had better accept how base its base really is. This guy is the face of the new Republican party, and he's the reason many of us left, and more are leaving, the GOP.
Hey Rex, your next President is a.... um... whats the word you used? Oh yeah, "nigger".
Stop the racism, whomod.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
To be honest, I admire the fact that at least you're honest as to why you're against Obama. Well, as much as one could admire an ugly vile racist, of course Despite the bullshit you repeat about him being a terrorist, at least you acknowledge that you hate black people.
Like if the many many instances of race based stories or "reverse racism" white victimhood pieces I've seen obsessed about here wasn't clue enough that you're not alone here, at least you have stones enough to say it aloud.
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The Hate Talk Express rolls on. And the best part, the neanderthal Republican congressman who made the comments, Robin Hayes, now saying he never said any such thing. Yeah, too bad it was caught on tape, liar :
Wow. So sad to see the gOP descend into McCarthyism in these last days of their reign of terror.
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Despite the bullshit you repeat about him being a terrorist, at least you acknowledge that you hate black people.