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Son of Mxy #1123645 2010-07-29 3:51 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
I just saw Water of Mars for the first time (the supposedly complete torrent I downloaded before didn't have the specials except for the End of time), and holy shit, the ending was awesome.

Yeah but it never went anywhere. That was my problem with the Specials, they each had an interesting idea that was abandoned and forgotten. The Next Doctor seemed like they actually had the crazy 11th Doctor coming back to alter 10th's regeneration. Instead it was a guy with a balloon crying over his dead wife.
Waters of Mars was so so and heavily rehashed from older episodes until the end. It seemed like they were really going to address the idea of him being a "Time Lord" and making the rules, then she shot herself and it seemed like the perfect way to tie into his regeneration, but they didn't. They could have said that his altering of a fixed point opened the door for Galifrey to do everything they did in End of Time.
But they didn't. The Specials were such crap. Like extended versions of regular episodes that would be written off as filler in any other series.


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Has anyone seen this guy's work on Deviant Art?






Doctor Who Art

Gorgeous stuff!! I just ordered a print of his Eleven Doctors sepia montage, from his personal site:

Steve Caldwell's Shop

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Rowan Atkinson is the doctor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM loved the ending

Well done Llancethar. Not only did you once again fuck up the simple task of posting a video, you also managed to post a clip that SOM posted a few weeks ago.
At least when he posted it, it hadnt been posted for a while.


McCunty Poofface,that's a link not a clip.

I I didn't know it had been posted because I have not read all the thread.

Now,McCunty Poofface,say you're sorry and stop being gay.

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Got my Paul McGann and "serious" McCoy figures. That's all of them now. Finally, I have gained what my ten-year-old self would have killed for: all of The Doctors in "action figure" form...



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I've finished all the New Seasons and watched a few classic eps. How's the Mcgann movie? Are the effects as cheesy as the classic ones or passable enough like the new seasons, or something in between?

I am going to be frank. The low budget effects kind of mar the experience for me in the classic eps (only for the colored episodes. Black and white makes the low budget effects much more forgivable. Kind of like how exaggerated/unrealistic art styles compensate for the uncanny valley)

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Got my Paul McGann and "serious" McCoy figures. That's all of them now. Finally, I have gained what my ten-year-old self would have killed for: all of The Doctors in "action figure" form...






heh. I saw the Eleven Doctors box set in Previews this week and thought about you.

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Yeah I was about a day away from ordering a set just to get McGann. Luckily, I won him and McCoy individually for a reasonable price.

Naturally, I just ordered the 5th Doctor/Master (Ainley) two-pack and the Peter Davison regen figure where he's still got Tom's outfit on. Comes with unraveling scarf! (or a plastic scarf you can "unravel" with scissors. Whatever.)

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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
I've finished all the New Seasons and watched a few classic eps. How's the Mcgann movie? Are the effects as cheesy as the classic ones or passable enough like the new seasons, or something in between?


McGann's one-shot is considered to be the "marriage" episode between the Classic era and RTD's modern era. Which is to say, like all Who, it has some crap in it, but also some gold. The plus is that the budget is excellent (for 1996), MUCH bigger than the older stuff. The console room is the most elaborate and well-regarded version of the entire series, even out-classing the "organic corral" look. And, McGann is an excellent Doctor in his first outing. (opinion)

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Did you see "TimeCrash" with Tennant and Davison together? As for the Classic episodes, which ones have you seen? Which Doctors have you been exposed to? What's your take on the older guys? Just curious for a new fan perspective. I expected as much with the lack of budget, of course. I think if you weren't exposed to it at an early age, or lived through it, the only thing it would have going for it (for modern fans) would either be the plots or the Doctor, himself...

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I'm going to say again, not all of Eric Roberts as The Master was complete shit.

Alot of it was how shitty it was written.

Some of the scenes where he is just being "matter of factly" evil were quite entertaining.

It's not Eric's fault that they gave him that wardrobe.

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It was the sunglasses then the timelord robes that ruined that role.

Oh and the stupid eyes.

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Pro is fighting back his bile right now reading that.

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\:lol\: !!

Listen, time has mellowed me on Eric Roberts' Master. I am able to separate the shit he was given from the actor himself. In fact, those moments of calm you talk about, I can get into. And for fuck sake, after John Simm, Roberts is practically morbid...

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus


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I am going to be frank. The low budget effects kind of mar the experience for me in the classic eps (only for the colored episodes. Black and white makes the low budget effects much more forgivable. Kind of like how exaggerated/unrealistic art styles compensate for the uncanny valley)


Did you see "TimeCrash" with Tennant and Davison together? As for the Classic episodes, which ones have you seen? Which Doctors have you been exposed to? What's your take on the older guys? Just curious for a new fan perspective. I expected as much with the lack of budget, of course. I think if you weren't exposed to it at an early age, or lived through it, the only thing it would have going for it (for modern fans) would either be the plots or the Doctor, himself...


I haven't seen Time Crash yet, I wouldn't even know it exists if I hadn't seen the episode listings while I was tracking down the specials. I just saw the titanic crash into the tardis at the end of last of the timelords and assumed there was nothing in between that and voyage of the damned.

and as for the classic eps, you know which ones I have already seen. I got the links from you \:lol\:

I'm mostly going by episode summaries right now to get the whole story, since I don't have the time to watch all of the classic eps (if I can find them.) But yeah, the appeal mostly lies in the plot, and the doctor himself. I treat the Doctor Who franchise as one big story that has good and cheesy parts, but they all add up to an excellent story. I mean, the new seasons would probably suck if they didn't have all of the classic eps to give it added depth and history.

Part of the doctor's charm as per his multiple incarnations is because you can compare them with each other. There's bits and pieces that convince you that yes, they are the same person, yet they are so different from each other. I would probably find Hartnell creepy, but knowing that he's going to become Smith someday makes it all kinds of awesome.

Also, I love to wank off to Sarah Jane Smith (when she appeared in the new season).


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When I watched the Time Warrior, I was constantly expecting Edmund Blackadder and Baldrick to enter the scene \:lol\:

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\:lol\: I was waiting for a YOUNG ONES crossover...

Time Crash by Steven Moffat


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P.S. Sarah-Jane has been giving me wood since I hit puberty. What a milf.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
P.S. K-9 has been giving me wood since I hit puberty. What a milf.

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I think Sarah-Jane kept K-9 in her bedside drawer for those lonely nights. He has multiple settings, you understand...

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affirmative!

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BTW, has anybody tried the Doctor Who games provided for free on BBC's website? Roy, Nowhie?

It can't be downloaded by people with non UK IP Addresses. Even if you somehow manage to download the installer thru an anonymous browser, the installer still checks your IP and won't install.

The reviews I've seen don't mention the gameplay at all but were less than stellar. (How do you make a DW game anyway? the doctor doesn't fight. A myst style game would be boring. But something similar to Batman: Arkham Asylum minus the beat `em up aspects could work)

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http://www.direct2drive.com/9642/product...-and-2-Download

You can but them there for five bucks if you live in America and maybe some other places. I hear they're basically bonus episodes that you can play through. I'm sure they're on demonoid as well.


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Rex, you seen the Smith episodes?

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Not yet. I got two more weeks of classes then six weeks off. I'll have the time to catch up then.


My parents have watched all the Torchwood episodes on Netflix and have asked me what they should watch next. I asked them if they've seen any Doctor Who yet and they said it didn't look interesting. Now they're watching the dresden files. Its like they're trying to watch every crappy show on sci fi and skipping the one good show they've had.


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\:lol\: What about Battlestar Galactica? Have they tried that one? Or just show them the Doctor Who episodes that have Captain Jack in them (i.e. his first appearance in The Empty Child/Doctor Dances)...

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They loved battlestar but they also love horrible shit like the csi shows and shit like that.

I told them all they need to do is watch the Eccleston season. I told them that is where Captain Jack started. They keep asking me about how he was on it and I keep telling them its only 13 episodes and they should just watch that instead of the latest season of bones.


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Isn't Torchwood more adult than Who, like all that gay relationship shit and stuff that should be on Buffy.

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Yeah, which is probably why it did so much better here in the US than in the UK. \:lol\:

It's so big, they've gotten American backing. They're actually making the fourth season with Starz and it will be broadcast on that cable channel simultaneously with the UK...

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And yes Rex, that was smart trying to get them into Eccleston season. That's a perfect opener for newbies, as well as people interested in the origins of Jack. Tell them the finale explains why he's immortal...

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Is that from Twilight?

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Wife and I just finished season 2. Slowing the pace on season 3 to start Torchwood.

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Torchwood Season One is rough. Season Two is when it gets really good. So, your thoughts on Ten's first season?

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Questions, Lothar?

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i didn't say sparkling immortal gay

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 Originally Posted By: Son of Mxy
i didn't say sparkling immortal gay


\:lol\: "Thirsty, Rob Kamphausen? Try Sparkling Immortal Gay!"

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I am going to be frank. The low budget effects kind of mar the experience for me in the classic eps (only for the colored episodes. Black and white makes the low budget effects much more forgivable. Kind of like how exaggerated/unrealistic art styles compensate for the uncanny valley)


Just curious for a new fan perspective. I expected as much with the lack of budget, of course. I think if you weren't exposed to it at an early age, or lived through it, the only thing it would have going for it (for modern fans) would either be the plots or the Doctor, himself...


We also grew up in the era of Land of the Lost and similar shows. Doctor Who wasn't really that much worse than everything else at the same time. The video medium in a studio production it what makes it look bad without the polish of filmed TV shows.


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It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
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I am going to be frank. The low budget effects kind of mar the experience for me in the classic eps (only for the colored episodes. Black and white makes the low budget effects much more forgivable. Kind of like how exaggerated/unrealistic art styles compensate for the uncanny valley)


Just curious for a new fan perspective. I expected as much with the lack of budget, of course. I think if you weren't exposed to it at an early age, or lived through it, the only thing it would have going for it (for modern fans) would either be the plots or the Doctor, himself...


We also grew up in the era of Land of the Lost and similar shows. Doctor Who wasn't really that much worse than everything else at the same time. The video medium in a studio production it what makes it look bad without the polish of filmed TV shows.

yeah watching old clips it looks as good as what else was on. Hartnell's show looks like Lost in Space to Mccoy's show looking like early TNG. It only looks cheap and bad compared to today's fx.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Torchwood Season One is rough. Season Two is when it gets really good. So, your thoughts on Ten's first season?


It was good considering that Eccleston left big shoes to fill, IMO. Still, Tennant seemed to ease in to the role fairly well. A few weak episodes, but I love me some Cybermen. Of course, they left some big dangling storylines to get back to (the severed hand, for example, seems like it and Torchwood will be back. And, it seems Rose's story seems like there is more to it than being shunted off to parallel earth). Not sure I'll like the Bride.

Overall, 8 out of 10.

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Fuck the new Cybermen! Bring back the Cybermen proper!

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Fuck the new Cybermen! Bring back the Cybermen proper!


whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules.
It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness.
This is true both in politics and on the internet."

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