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He was rich, and he just died. So people are mourning him like the next Christ has fallen.

RIP Steve Jobs. Congrats on getting rich.

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People on Twitter are like "Oh he was such a visionary Tony Stark"! over-dramatic nonsense. The world has lost perspective. A capitalist billionaire died. RIP fellow human. What's the tragic loss?

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He became obsolete once the two button mouse was invented. Fucked him and his over priced crap. At least this will devastate all the hippies trying to take down new york.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
He became obsolete once the two button mouse was invented.


Agreed.

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At least this will devastate all the hippies trying to take down new york.


Aaaaand now we're back into wonderrexville! \:lol\:

Keep the politics in the Poli forum, you whiny bitch.

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Keep the tech stuff in the tech forum.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Keep the tech stuff in the tech forum.


This is the tech forum.

...looks around...

Isn't it?

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OH! You mean the "GAMES" forum. That's silly, Rex. Why would we post a celebrity obit in the tech forum? Silly reax. \:lol\:

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
People on Twitter are like "Oh he was such a visionary Tony Stark"! over-dramatic nonsense. The world has lost perspective. A capitalist billionaire died. RIP fellow human. What's the tragic loss?


Oh, somebody died. I hate these people that go on about Jobs like he made every product Apple ever produced with his own two hands.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
OH! You mean the "GAMES" forum. That's silly, Rex. Why would we post a celebrity obit in the tech forum? Silly reax. \:lol\:


The games and tech forum. Its ok if you didn't read that far into the name. Simpletons like you have trouble reading that many words.


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Yeah, I failed to see the report where he gave all his "great scientific achievement" to the medical and science field for free. You know, to "improve humanity", as people keep saying.

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 Originally Posted By: rex
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OH! You mean the "GAMES" forum. That's silly, Rex. Why would we post a celebrity obit in the tech forum? Silly reax. \:lol\:


The games and tech forum. Its ok if you didn't read that far into the name. Simpletons like you have trouble reading that many words.


\:lol\: \:lol\: \:lol\: How many degrees do you have, Rex? How many? I have two Bachelors, plus an Associates for certification purposes. I mean, you want to talk about reading comprehension, WonderRex, you better bring some man-sized balls to the table if you want to go a few rounds with me on educational levels...

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Do I think 9/11 was caused by the government?

no

Do I think a bunch of hippies clogging up New York is a good thing?

no


That makes me better than you.


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 Originally Posted By: rex
Do I think 9/11 was caused by the government?

no


Okay. Who said you had to?

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Do I think a bunch of hippies clogging up New York is a good thing?

no


That just shows your ignorant intolerance. A sure sign of a lack of mental acuity. Stick to pictures.

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That makes me better than you.


...screamed the basement virgin into his pillow, over, and over, and over again, until finally devastating it in a fit of rage-pillow-fucking!

\:lol\: \:lol\: \:lol\:

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P.S.

 Originally Posted By: rex


\:lol\:

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I win again!


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 Originally Posted By: rex
I'm broken again


You used to be a cool guy. Now, you've gone full WonderPariah...

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You went full on g-tard. Its been fun watching your nervous breakdown.


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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
 Originally Posted By: rex
I'm broken again


You used to be a cool guy. Now, you've gone full WonderPariah...

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
A capitalist billionaire died.


Why do you dislike successful people so much?

Whether you, personally, like his products or not, he made his money by creating things that many people found enjoyable and useful. He wasn't an investment banker or the usual occupation you rail against.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
A capitalist billionaire died.


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Why do you dislike successful people so much?


Talking Points 101. Keep the politics in the Poli forum, G.

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Whether you, personally, like his products or not, me made his money by creating things that many people found enjoyable and useful.


Yes, he created a lot neato entertainment gadgets. His company created everything else of any actual importance. Besides that, what level of importance should I give to his passing? 70k other people died today, too. Why aren't we mourning them the same?

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He wasn't an investment banker or the usual occupation you rail against.


I'm not railing against him. I'm railing against the ridiculous overly dramatic sainthood people on Twitter are going on about. Like I said before, I don't remember him being some great humanitarian whose purpose was to "improve humanity". He was a guy that got rich off being a good salesman, and then famous off the back of his Apple engineers. Like I said before, Rest In Peace fellow human. But, you know....big deal.

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Talking Points 101. Keep the politics in the Poli forum, G.


You're the one who made it a point to describe him with rhetoric equally, if not more, political.

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I don't remember him being some great humanitarian whose purpose was to "improve humanity".


Making useful products and services doesn't improve humanity?

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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Talking Points 101. Keep the politics in the Poli forum, G.


You're the one who made it a point to describe him with rhetoric equally, if not more, political.


In your opinion, but neither in intent or fact. You see what you want.

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I don't remember him being some great humanitarian whose purpose was to "improve humanity".


Making useful products and services doesn't improve humanity?


Only as a side-effect of keeping his bottomline looking profitable. Once again, he didn't give the needed advancement for free, so that we could have affordable holo-imaging-systems to find cancer, or to scientific circles to help find the Higgs-boson Particle. He used his "great genius" to sell new cell phones and make people think they need to have something to watch on them at all times. Fun tech? Yes. Worthy of deification? Nope.

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Is this the wrong time to also point out the shady side of Apple...

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-20055700-17.html

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Apple iPhones and 3G iPads running iOS 4 might be tracking their owners' movements, a new report from O'Reilly Radar claims.

Alasdair Allan, senior research fellow in astronomy at the University of Exeter, and writer Pete Warden say they have found evidence that the iPhone, 3G iPad, and backups on users' computers contain detailed location information, including latitude, longitude, and time stamps, that show where the mobile devices have been. In addition, the information is "unencrypted and unprotected, and it's on any machine you've synched with your iOS device," they claim.

The information is reportedly stored in a file called "consolidated.db." The writers claim that the information, which isn't "always exact," started being collected around the time of the launch of iOS 4 last year. They say that they have found "tens of thousands of data points in this file" that, they believe, were collected via cell-tower triangulation.

The fact that the iPhone or 3G iPad can be tracked isn't all that surprising. Apple currently offers a free app, Find My iPhone, that lets users track their smartphone from another device. The service is also available to iPad and iPod Touch owners.

However, the claims made by Allan and Warden are a bit different. For one, in their findings, users don't know that they're being tracked. Moreover, exactly why that information is reportedly being tracked is unknown at this point. And as they rightly noted, "cell phone companies have always had this data, but it takes a court order to access it."

Although the alleged findings will raise some red flags in the privacy and security community, it's worth noting that the information the writers allegedly came across is not being leaked out over the Web.

People who are concerned that their iPhone or iPad is tracking their locations can find out with the help of an application Allan and Warden released, named iPhone Tracker. The open-source application maps all the points of location information saved in the user's devices.

I ran the application on my computer to find out if my iPhone has been tracking me. It returned a detailed map showing the many places I've been with my smartphone.

Allan and Warden plan to discuss their findings in more detail later today at the Where 2.0 conference in Santa Clara, Calif.

Apple did not immediately respond to CNET's request for comment.

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he didn't give the needed advancement for free, so that we could have affordable holo-imaging-systems to find cancer, or to scientific circles to help find the Higgs-boson Particle


So, you believe that people should give away their work and not sell it?

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NO!! IGGY!! A CAPITALIST SAINT HAS JUST DIED!! HAVE YOU NO SUDDEN FEELINGS OF DEEP PERSONAL LOSS IN YOUR LIFE???

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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he didn't give the needed advancement for free, so that we could have affordable holo-imaging-systems to find cancer, or to scientific circles to help find the Higgs-boson Particle


So, you believe that people should give away their work and not sell it?


Won't work, Old Man Lawyer. Nice clip of my words, setup, and then "WHY DIDN'T PRO GET ANGRY ABOUT THIIIIIIISSSSS?!?!? (links to thread from seven years ago). My words are right in front of you. If you have nothing, just accept it and stop posting.

Like I told you recently, Pariah Sr., get some new tricks. Some of us have been here for all of them...

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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he didn't give the needed advancement for free, so that we could have affordable holo-imaging-systems to find cancer, or to scientific circles to help find the Higgs-boson Particle


So, you believe that people should give away their work and not sell it?


Won't work, Old Man Lawyer. Nice clip of my words, setup...My words are right in front of you. If you have nothing, just accept it and stop posting.


Why do you bring things if you don't want to discuss them?

You keep going on about him being (like probably 99% of the country) "a capitalist." You complain he should have given his work away instead of charging people for his labor (again, like 99% of the country, if not world) and, when asked about what you said, you retreat to non-responsive answers.

Obviously, you're under no obligation to engage in a conversation but if you have no interest in doing so why post at all?

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Because YOU aren't interested, G. How many decades do we have to do this? You're in no place to hear anything anyone says besides what you, yourself, already believe. Since when has this changed?

No, I don't believe he should charge for work that should benefit humanity. Funny thing about old tv that showed a future where everyone benefited from futuristic tech. Of course, they forgot to mention that only the commercial class may enjoy the advantages. Third-world countries where they don't even have clean drinking water? Sorry! You're not rich enough.

Medicine. Universal Technological achievement. These things should be a right of the species, not the rich.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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he didn't give the needed advancement for free, so that we could have affordable holo-imaging-systems to find cancer, or to scientific circles to help find the Higgs-boson Particle


So, you believe that people should give away their work and not sell it?


I gotten a hold of a lot of cool freeware and open-source software on these here interwebs. Just sayin'.

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No, I don't believe he should charge for work that should benefit humanity.


But how can anyone create things if they don't charge for them? If nothing else, there'd be no money to pay for the engineers and other employees.

Or are you assuming the employees should donate their time too because it's work on an invention that benefits humanity?

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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No, I don't believe he should charge for work that should benefit humanity.


But how can anyone create things if they don't charge for them? If nothing else, there'd be no money to pay for the engineers and other employees.


Selective reading. Again, I don't believe he should charge for work that can benefit humanity. I didn't say all of it. I didn't say most of it. I was specific in what I said.

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Or are you assuming the employees should donate their time too because it's work on an invention that benefits humanity?


See? You do selective reading first, which helps you set up your "point", which was never accurate in the first place...

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It's not selective reading. It's a discussion.

You say he shouldn't charge for work that benefits humanity. How would that work in the real world? Where would he (or anyone else) get the funds to pay the employees for those products if he didn't charge? Who would decide what work "benefits humanity" and is, therefore, to be free?

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Jobs seemed like a nice guy.
Sorry to hear he died.

If some of you on this thread hate him you may take comfort in the knowledge that cancer never takes anyone fast or easy or pretty.


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\:lol\:

At least, we still have the onion to remind us of our need to not take everything so damn seriously all the time.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
It's not selective reading. It's a discussion.


So sayeth G-Man. And yet, you keep missing exactly what I'm saying.

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You say he shouldn't charge for work that benefits humanity. How would that work in the real world? Where would he (or anyone else) get the funds to pay the employees for those products if he didn't charge?


What he sells in entertainment technology.

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Who would decide what work "benefits humanity" and is, therefore, to be free?


Create tech that creates devices. Make those devices for entertainment purposes. Take revenue from said sales, and pay to have new tech developed for beneficial human science and medicine.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
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Who would decide what work "benefits humanity" and is, therefore, to be free?


Create tech that creates devices. Make those devices for entertainment purposes. Take revenue from said sales, and pay to have new tech developed for beneficial human science and medicine.

That is exactly what I'm saying.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! HOLY SHIT--HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

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 Originally Posted By: Pariah


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