RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events 17 year old Trayvon Martin shot by Neighborhood watch guy Zimmerman

It makes it less likely that you're biased against Irish. That's what the article is pointing out. Nowhere does it justify killing. It simply points out that the 'facts' about Zimmerman have been wrong. Just like your 'fact' about him being an ex-cop.



Zimmerman didn't disobey police orders. The 911 dispatcher, who is not a cop, said that he didn't have to follow Martin. Zimmerman, having been told the same thing in another incident where the thief (as he was caught days later) got away, decided that he wasn't chancing another one disappearing before the police showed up.



Martin/ Weapon = possibly fist. Again, you've left our a lot of the real fact to concentrate on the ones that support the decision you've already made. You neglect that the neighborhood had been suffering from a rash of robberies and vandalism for years. What would you do if you suddenly saw someone you didn't know walking around your neighborhood at night after repeated instances of burglary? I'm guessing you'd probably say, "Well, he's black; and I can do anything that might be considered racist. I'll just have to ignore this whole episode."




You have just shown your own stubbornness and ignorance in this one rant. You've made a decision and require bullshit evidence to change it. Martin can't just be a kid who could brawl with his hands and fists. He has to have 'advanced' training to be a danger to anyone. I guess anyone who has beaten anyone else to death must have been military trained or spent years in isolated Shao Lin temples.

It's those last two lines of yours that echoes with me. I remember having a discussion with this uber partisan chick once who, when I brought out honest to god facts, told me, "I don't care what the facts are. The facts won't change my mind."



So Zimmerman was following Martin with his gun drawn and waving it about? My god, Pro, if you witnessed this crime, why the hell haven't you come forward and given testimony? You cruel motherfucker.



You're claiming to know that Zimmerman is guilty without knowing if he was the aggressor or Martin was. There is a legal process to show if self defense is credible. You've made up your mind before that process has taken place.



You're the one concerned with race since you're okay with foregoing due process to penalize a 'racist'.



Thank you for proving my point.



And no facts.



Guilty of what? Murder? Bad judgement? That's the question. Zimmerman shouldn't be let loose if he killed Martin when he could have avoided it. Again, if Martin attacked Zimmerman, Zimmerman shouldn't just lay on the ground and let someone fucking hammer him. A man has a right to defend himself. The question is whether Zimmerman's actions were defense or something else and criminal.