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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
No, no facts. Ignorance. You claim to know exactly what happened when only one person does. Only two people were there, one of them is dead.

You don't know for a fact that Zimmerman wouldn't have checked out a white guy in a hoodie.

Also, I do not sympathize with Zimmerman. At all.

I'm not just going to assume Zimmerman was out there specifically to kill the first black people he came across either. That is ridiculous.

He most likely was the cause of Martin's death, just by his attitude.

My only position on this is that we do not have all the facts and most likely never will. I do not see how that puts me in a camp for either Martin or Zimmerman.


I still mostly blame the media on this one. But I noticed that of all the things Pro was very quick to respond to from me, this wasn't one of them.

Did he deliberately avoid it?

Did he just not see it?

Two very different stories that led to the same end.

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Prometheus' head is shaped like a testicle.

Fact

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I can prove it. Look at my avatar.

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Now prove to Lothar, and me that Zimmerman would not have shot a white kid.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
I'm a pussy. I can prove it. Look at my avatar. I got nothing, so I have to use personal attacks. Cause I'm a fucking pussy.


Yes. You are.

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Exactly, you have nothing.

You are ignorant.

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You'll address this silly feud you imagine you have with me, but nothing else.

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See, Pro cannot even prove his head doesn't look like a testicle let alone prove Zimmerman would not have shot a white kid. Other than one wasn't there.

Prove either one Pro.

Make me look like an asshole about this.

This is your chance.

Go.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
I'm a pussy. I can prove it. Look at my avatar. I got nothing, so I have to use personal attacks. Cause I'm a fucking pussy.


Yes. You are.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
DEERRRR!!!!


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Pro, you've got more smokescreen than Bat-man.

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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
I'm a pussy. I can prove it. Look at my avatar. I got nothing, so I have to use personal attacks. Cause I'm a fucking pussy.


Yes. You are.

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
The facts are there. It's the willfully-blind pundits such as yourself that embrace ignorance. He profiled him based on his "hoodie" (racial profiling) and recent string of thefts (not murder, violence, or anything else....just taking material goods non-essential to living). He was supposedly "scared" because the teenager was walking through his neighborhood. Acting like it's an innocent gesture to stalk and murder and unarmed black kid is some kind of immoral spin to make those who "sympathize" with Zimmerman (i.e. other racists) feel better about the cruelty in their heart. Fact.

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Ok, you just have an ignorant stance and nobody will ever convince you otherwise.

I just want to point out that I'm not in any way pro Zimmerman.

I'm not in any way pro Martin. Although I do think it is a tragedy that Treyvon Martin is dead.

I just find it hard to believe Zimmerman was driving around "killing niggers"

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Any race can wear a hoodie.

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Treyvon Martin isn't dead because he is black, he is dead because Zimmerman just might be an asshole.

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Pro,




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 Originally Posted By: Ultimate Jaburg53
Treyvon Martin isn't dead because he is black, he is dead because Zimmerman just might be an asshole.


QFT. I don't get the whole race thing. Its just clouding the truth of what went down.

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 Originally Posted By: Stupid Doog


QFT. I don't get the whole race thing.


It's when two people run to see who is faster, but that's not important right now.

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The people trying to politicize and capitalize on this are having a problem deciding on which narrative to push.

Originally, it was that self defense laws should be repealed because they can allow kids wearing hoodies to get shot.

When it was pointed out that the law wasn't necessarily applicable in this case and that Martin may have been an agressor they fell back on the "white racism kills innocent black kids" claim, figuring they could use that to guilt everyone into voting for Obama.

When it was discovered that Zimmerman is part black and part Hispanic, that became a problem, and many of them started trying to push the "no self defense" cause again.

And so on...

Conspicuously absent from either narrative is the idea of actually waiting until all the facts are in or trying to preserve the rights of the accused.

Hell, there are some people out there (for example, "9/11 was a government conspiracy" types) who were more willing to give Osama the benefit of the doubt than want to give Zimmerman.

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Not to mention the media who want ratings to attract advertisers therefor will rush to a story without waiting for any actual information.

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Yeah. You just know the producers at NBC's "Dateline" were practically giggling like school girls over this story.

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For a long time now a lot of media outlets are using terms like "people are saying", "such and such are reporting", and "sources say".

They do it to indemnify themselves against actual facts coming to light.

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Except FOX. According to David, that's all solid fact.

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BTW, why haven't they executed the racist murderer yet? Whitey stalling for time? Waiting for the 24-media cycle so they can slip a pardon under the radar?

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus
Except FOX. According to David, that's all solid fact.


FOX invented it.

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Shhh!! Don't tell David! He says FOX is "fair & balanced"....

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 Originally Posted By: Prometheus


"My friends have always been the best of me." -Doctor Who

"Well,whenever I'm confused,I just check my underwear. It holds most answers to life's questions." Abe Simpson

I can tell by the position of the sun in the sky, that is time for us to go. Until next time, I am Lothar of the Hill People!
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 Originally Posted By: Lothar of The Hill People
MUST DEFEND RACIST! BUT I'M NOT WONDER BOY! NO SIR!



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Zimmerman Had Cuts, Black Eyes After Shooting: Court records show George Zimmerman had a pair of black eyes, a nose fracture and two cuts to the back of his head after the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin. The medical records were part of evidence released Tuesday that prosecutors have in the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman

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Isn't the point of a neighborhood watch just to watch?

I don't think there was any good reason Zimmerman even got out of his car.

I don't think he was "Oh look! A nigger to murder! goody!"

Just watch the guy until he commits a crime. Nobody's account says Martin was committing a crime when he was shot.

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Well, if Martin was beating the shit out of Zimmerman, as these medical records seem to suggest,that would seem to be a criminal act on Martin's part.

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But he couldn't beat Zimmerman had he stayed in his car.

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He couldn't really keep an eye on him from there either.

I dunno. Looking at it again, I don't think there was anything principally wrong with following Martin around the street corner just to see which direction he was going in to tell the cops--if indeed that's what he was doing. After all, to observe and report, one must follow to some extent.

Leaving behind the debate of whether or not he was in the right to tail him, if he had been more careful about it, this wouldn't have happened.

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Even from the ultra-liberal Huffington Post...


...evidence is being released that Zimmerman was treated for a broken nose and other injuries.
And that Trayvon Martin had bruises on his knuckles consistent with his punching someone.

What the article --of course!-- fails to do, is come right out and say that the evidence released supports Zimmerman's account of events, that he was attacked by Trayvon Martin, and injuries to both of them support that account.


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 Originally Posted By: G-Racist
www.FOXNEWS.com


Hey look, objectivity!

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Hey look, objectivity!


HuffingtonPost is not "Fox News", dumbass.

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