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It is sad that trump politicized a true threat to this country. How many lives could have been saved just if he had been a decent human being? Instead states got attacked for trying to act like there was a deadly highly contagious pandemic hitting us. I see today Trump refused multiple times to buy extra vaccines when he had a chance. Now he’s golfing while he tries to stay in power by throwing away election results as coronavirus deaths get higher and higher.

Trump Administration: “We want them infected “

This is actually not new news per se as there was earlier reporting that the trumpsters were pushing for a herd immunity approach to Covid. They were just lying about it. Killing grandma because shopping and going to the bars are more valued.

White House denies Trump endorsed herd immunity

Just to clear up who the liars are WB. That would be trump.

Here is what Mr Trump said on Tuesday night at the Philadelphia town hall: “Sure, over a period of time. Sure, with time it goes away. And you'll develop – you'll develop herd – like a herd mentality. It's going to be – it's going to be herd-developed, and that's going to happen. That will all happen. But with a vaccine, I think it will go away very quickly.”

Senior Trump officials have repeatedly denied that herd immunity — a concept advocated by some conservatives as a tactic to control Covid-19 by deliberately exposing less vulnerable populations in hopes of re-opening the economy — was under consideration or shaped the White House's approach to the pandemic. “Herd immunity is not the strategy of the U.S. government with regard to coronavirus," HHS Secretary Alex Azar testified in a hearing before the House coronavirus subcommittee on Oct. 2.

RUSH: I’m always interested in people’s reaction to this program. I think I have a lot of empathy, and I think one of the reasons why the relationship you and I have is good is ’cause I know how you hear this show. That, I think, is a key ingredient. It’s called empathy. I know how you hear it.

So, when I check emails and get questions from people, usually I’m not surprised, and I’m not surprised that I got beaucoup number of questions: “Rush, you don’t sound panicked over any of this. The last two days, you don’t sound panicked, and yet everybody’s panicked. I’m panicked,” people say in their email. “I’m scared to death. I mean, I’ve looked, the stock market was pulling up to 30,000. Now it’s down to 21,000. The Democrat Party, every move they’re making is designed to grow government, make government bigger, and you don’t seem alarmed.”

Folks, panic is… I don’t know. I’m not panicked. I am ticked off like you cannot believe, and I am really having a conversation with myself about how far to go in explaining why I’m mad, ’cause I’m mad about the politics of this. For example, let me give you some statistics. How many of you even remember the swine flu 2009, 2010? I don’t remember it. I mean, I remember we had it. But I don’t remember any panic about it. I don’t remember a thing about the swine flu.

I went back and looked at the stats and I was stunned. Are you ready for this? The swine flu outbreak in this country in 2009 and 2010, 60 million Americans were infected. Do you remember that? Sixty million were infected. Dr. Siegel, one of the Fox doctors was on TV explaining this last night. He was not my primary source for it, but he ended up confirming it. Sixty million people were infected.


Do you know how many people were hospitalized in 2009-2010 with the swine flu? Three hundred thousand were hospitalized. So 60 million people infected, 300,000 hospitalized. And nobody even remembers it. And why? Well, because we had a different president. We had a Democrat president by the name of Barack Obama, and the news then was how wonderfully well Obama was handling it, how expertly well Obama was dealing with it.

There wasn’t any media panic. The Republican Party did not politicize it at all. They made not one single effort that anybody can find or remember to try to make political hay out of it. It was treated as a health issue from top to bottom. Sixty million Americans infected, 300,000 hospitalized. I don’t know what the death toll was. The numbers with the coronavirus are not even close. They are barely a fraction of a percentage compared to the swine flu.

And then we also had Ebola. And I do remember a little bit more about Ebola, and once again, the Drive-By Media was praising the skills and the composure and the brilliance of Barack Obama in dealing with it. And I remember being kind of ticked off about that because there wasn’t anything anybody can do about Ebola. Ebola is like any of these other viruses. There’s nothing we can do to contain them.

See, the reason I’m not panicked is I don’t have enough emotion left for panic ’cause I’m too mad. I’m too ticked off at this. We’re watching the U.S. economy be wrecked here. There’s some people enjoying it. And it makes me mad. There’s some people’s lives here that are being seriously damaged over this. And you know what’s gonna happen? It’s gonna end. We are going to overcome it. It’s going to fizzle out like all of these do.



How did we ever survive 60 million infected with the swine flu? But we did to the point that hardly anybody remembers it. And that’s just 10 years ago, 300,000 hospitalized. So we overcame it. We overcame Ebola. This is gonna end, it’s gonna pass. And I’ll tell you what else is gonna happen. Because of the actions President Trump has taken, like this travel ban from Europe, that has really put the Democrats in a dicey position.

There’s some real positives if you want to find ’em here, and I, of course, have, and I’ll share them with you in a minute. The point is we’re gonna rebound from this, and when we do, you had better get ready and hold on tight, because this market’s gonna rebound. The people who are selling right now and getting out of it are panicking, and they don’t want to be selling. Everybody’s doing this from a very defensive posture and point of view.

And it’s adding… Like we get news that Tom Hanks and his wife have coronavirus. “Oh, no, it’s all going (mewling)! It’s over. Oh, my…” And then his kid — his kid, Chet — goes on TV, tries to calm everybody. “They’re fine. They’re in Australia. They’re fine. They’re not suffering at all. Everything’s fine!” It doesn’t matter. They’ve got it.

Anyway, this is gonna end, and this market is gonna rebound like you can’t believe because the people who have been selling off want to get back in it. And we are taking economic procedures right now that are going to serve to further reignite the economy when all this passes. And when we get back into the growth trajectory, some of the proposals the president’s making regarding payroll taxes, Small Business Administration loans, even a tax holiday?

You just wait until people have no more emotion left to be panicked and get tired of this and want to go a different direction. And that day is gonna happen. The day’s gonna come where people are gonna wake and say, “I’m tired of living this way. I’m fed up with being panicked every day. I’m fed up,” and then — because of the actions the president’s taken — we’re not gonna have that many brand-new infections.



By shutting off this travel from Europe… As I said, this has really put the Democrats in a bad position ’cause they love the European Union. They love it, and the very fact that travel from their beloved European Union has been shut down… But let… If they come out and oppose this, then they’re essentially coming out for open borders. This is actually… If you want to look at it politically, it’s a good move from that standpoint.

But I’m not panicking ’cause I’m too mad about this.

This is… I don’t know. (sigh) It’s… I know some of you are saying, “Rush, easy for you to say.” It isn’t easy for me to say, folks. Nobody’s immune from what’s happening here. I mean, you go back and you look at these swine flu numbers and you ask, “What was different? (chuckles) What was different was we had a Democrat in the White House and so the media didn’t want to be critical of the government.

The media wanted to be promoting him. They wanted to be positive. They wanted to promote the brilliance of Barack Obama, the brilliant management skills, the temperament, the crease in his slacks, the intelligence and all that. Now we’ve got just exact opposite.

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RUSH: Meanwhile, don’t forget, ’cause I’m sure everybody has, swine flu outbreak 2009, 2010, right here, United States of America, 60 million Americans infected. Do you remember any talk about running out of hospital beds? Were we gonna run out of IV saline solution? Were we gonna run out of masks? Sixty million Americans infected with the swine flu. Think pigs running everywhere if you have to, however you have to visualize this, 300,000 hospitalized.

We’re nowhere near 300,000 hospitalized with coronavirus. I mean, we’re not even close to it. In fact, worldwide we don’t even have 300,000 cases, worldwide, of the coronavirus. Three hundred thousand hospitalized in the United States alone. You don’t even remember it. You know why? Because Barack Obama was president, and he was God, and we couldn’t be critical. We had to build him up and promote him like nothing else we’ve ever seen before.

I didn’t actually know anyone that died of swine flu back in 09 but in less than a year I’ve lost several people to Covid. Big difference to me but one that is probably meaningless to someone who just views things as one partisan side being good and the other bad being the most important thing ever.

From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, the CDC estimates there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3 - 89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086 - 402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868 - 18,306) in the United States due to the virus.[121]

A follow-up study done in September 2010 showed that the risk of serious illness resulting from the 2009 H1N1 flu was no higher than that of the yearly seasonal flu.[122] For comparison, the CDC estimates the global H1N1 death toll at 284,000 and the WHO estimates that 250,000 to 500,000 people die of seasonal flu annually.

Folks just got a call today from an old neighbor letting them know she tested positive for Covid after her son called saying he was really sick and Covid positive. They just all had Thanksgiving together because they believed Trump. Hate their politics but they deserved better leadership.

In December 2020, Birx indicated that she will retire from government soon after Joe Biden assumes office, stating that she "will stay as long as needed and then retire"; she said her tenure "has been a bit overwhelming" and "very difficult on my family".[38] Birx's announcement came after it was revealed that she had hosted three generations of her family from two households during Thanksgiving after she had urged Americans to restrict such gatherings to "your immediate household".[39]

You can revisit Trump explaining to Bob Woodward why Covid is different. Our life expectancy dropped a year because of Covid. I get how Covid can do that and not be the sole cause of death in a lot of cases. I look at the people I know that have died of Covid probably all had secondary factors but if not for Covid they would still be alive.

In Trump’s final year our country’s life expectancy dropped a year. MAGA?

That's crap.

1) Coronavirus impacted every nation on earth in a similar way.

2) as I've detailed before, the death count in the U.S. has been artificially inflated both for financial reasons where hospitals get financial compensation from reporting deaths from Covid whether they are or not, despite that many are proven to NOT be Covid deaths, not even tsted for Covid. And with the Democrat wing of the medical community wanting to exaggerate the death count just to make Trump look bad. I've seen multiple doctors interviewed saying that the Covid deaths are exaggerated by as much as 80% to 90%. Even the CDC admits on their own site that only 6% of Covid deaths are from Covid, and not from pre-existing co-morbid conditions such as heart disease, diabetes, cancer, asthma and so forth.

What is crap is you trying to downplay it. I’m not thrilled that life expectancy dropped a year in 2020 but all this attempting to downplay it is part of the reason it was that much. We would have had less spread without the trumpist political crap that is still going on. Really what is the value of ending mask mandates just when we don’t have even half the country vaccinated yet and variants coming into play?

I think we saw the true maniacs on Jan 6th. Now that Biden got his Covid relief passed (that is very popular btw) I suspect the economy is going to get much much better. Trump’s prediction of a depression if he wasn’t re-elected isn’t looking like it’s going to happen. With multiple vaccines out Covid could very well be dealt within Biden’s first year in office. What happens if Biden ends up trumping Trump’s economy?

By the way, there are huge outbreaks and new lockdowns across China now.

As Biden lets in thousands of Covid-infected illegal immigrants daily, with 10% of only the small ratio tested and let in to spread new infection across the U.S., as they re allowed to travel unscreened to all 50 states, it will be a miracle if we don't have a new explosion of infections across the U.S.

How can even a Democrat defend that kind of policy?
It is the OPPOSITE of Biden's vow to "preserve protects and defend" the United States. He is letting 6,000 illegals a day enter this country, unscreened, un-tested, and set on their way to go anywhere in the U.S.
Covid-infected and with other diseases such as tuberculosis, flesh-eating bacteria, HIV and other illnesses. Criminals, drug cartel members, MS-13 gang members, child rapistsMatt Gaetz, human traffickersMatt Gaetz, identity theives. Even illegals caught with gang tattoos are being set loose in this country. 6,000 illegals a day, times 365 days, is another 2 million illegals entering our country over the next year. And that's assuming the number crossing doesn't rise even higher.


The only hope of preventing another huge outbreak of Covid-19 is the vaccine immunization Trump put in place before he left office.
Certainly, the new Biden administration doesn't give a damn about the health or safety of U.S. citizens.

Covid-infected and with other diseases such as tuberculosis, flesh-eating bacteria, HIV and other illnesses. Criminals, drug cartel members, MS-13 gang members, child rapistsMatt Gaetz, human traffickersMatt Gaetz, identity theives. Even illegals caught with gang tattoos are being set loose in this country. 6,000 illegals a day, times 365 days, is another 2 million illegals entering our country over the next year. And that's assuming the number crossing doesn't rise even higher.

Fixed that for you!

It’s nice having a leader that doesn’t lie about the pandemic. Trump spent his remaining time in office being a sore loser pos instead of being a leader.

Even when the fat piece of shit got vaccinated, he did it quietly. A lot of vaccine hesitancy is breaking along party lines and he couldn’t even do a very basic psa thing like that.

Your unhinged personal vindictiveness toward...

That you can start a post like this with absolutely no fucking awareness at all is the exact reason no one in they're right mind takes you seriously.

Trump had to be prodded publicly to do a very basic decent thing months after he got vaccinated and after it became evident that a big chunk of his base wasn’t getting vaccinated. A very basic fail in leadership.

I lived through Trumpers telling me it’s a hoax and all the crazy sad failure of real leadership that included endless boasting, hosting super spreader events and political attacks by that pos. Hell won’t be hot enough when that fat glob finally keels over.

AP Fact Check Trump Distorts

“ THE FACTS: Not so much. Pfizer notably did not accept government money to develop, test or expand manufacturing capacity under Trump’s Operation Warp Speed initiative to quickly find a vaccine and treatments for the disease sweeping the country.

In fact, Pfizer partnered with the vaccine’s original developer, Germany’s BioNTech, in March and the following month announced the first human study in Germany. The White House announced Operation Warp Speed in May.

Pfizer opted not to join Operation Warp Speed initially but is following the same general requirements for the vaccine’s development as competitors who received government research money. The company says it has risked $2 billion of its own money on vaccine development and won’t get anything from Washington unless the effort is successful.

“Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine development and manufacturing costs have been entirely self-funded,” Pfizer spokeswoman Jerica Pitts said this week. “We decided to self-fund our efforts so we could move as fast as possible.”

However, Pfizer did sign an agreement with the U.S. government in July worth $1.95 billion — if the vaccine pans out and is cleared by the FDA — to supply 100 million doses. That guarantees Pfizer a U.S. market, an important incentive.

The supply side of Operation Warp Speed also allows Pfizer logistical help, although the company will directly ship its own vaccine, while the government will control shipping of other COVID-19 vaccines.”

I lived through Trumpers telling me it’s a hoax and all the crazy sad failure of real leadership that included endless boasting, hosting super spreader events and political attacks by that pos. Hell won’t be hot enough when that fat glob finally keels over.