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Target, in a flurry of political correct lunacy has barred the Salvation Army kettle bell ringers from thier stoops. Regardless of your religious persuasion (I'm a Cristiann, but take issue w/ the SA on alot of serious doctrinal issues) The Salvation Army does incredible and important cheritible work and asks nothing in return of the recipiants. http://www.boycotttarget.info/
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Well, looky here, Target has a message board. I think some of our most tallented trolls (Paraih, JLA, JQ, it's time to unite for the common good) should pay a little visit, show them why rkmbs trolls are the best of the best.
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UPDATE: In the state of New Jersey - KOHL's and HOME DEPOT are also banning the Salvation Army from their premises as well...
UPDATE: According to the Target "chat group" on Yahoo today - The Salvation Army in Illinois will suffer a five million dollar shortfall from the stores disallowing them access to public sidewalks in front of certain retail establishments - Target, et al.
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Damn their boards suck!
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Wal-Mart has forbidden them here in Montreal for two years running. I really don't understand how anyone could find these guys offensive. The simply stand and smile, never harassing folks for money...
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Did they say why they're barring the Salvation Army?
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You want to hear irony: my wife's temple was running an "adopt a salvation army family" and buying the gifts at the local Target.
The local Wal-Mart, BTW, allows bell ringers.
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Before you get your panties in a bunch read this.
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Before you get your panties in a bunch read this.
OK, I read it and I still blan not to shop at Target. Was that article suposed to make me feel better about thier decision?
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Target is one of the biggest spenders when it comes to charities.
If the Salvation Army was really concerned about getting donations, they would stop ring those goddamn bells and just sit there and smile. I've not shopped at stores because of those damn bells.
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I once canvassed for the Salvation Army -- that was both a good experience and a bad one. Some people were really nice whether or not they chose to donate (and I made a point never ever to press the issue at all if someone said no), but others were just outright hostile right off the bat. It's like they were expecting me to pressure them into something, like a telemarketer or even a Jehovah's Witness.
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The Salvation Army is considered one of the best charities in America.
Unlike many charities, most of the money actually goes to the cause, not the administration/overhead.
I don't see how anyone can fault the bell ringers. From what I've seen, they just stand there and ring the bell. They don't ask for donations and they thank you no matter the amount you put in.
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I've not shopped at stores because of those damn bells.
That's dumb.
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There's better ways to get donations then ring a damn bell all day long. They can just sit there and collect money. If they did it that way I bet more people would donate more money.
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Have we no work houses?
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I'll still go to Target 'cause they're better than Walmart and K-Mart.
But I also think they're stupid here.
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Target is one of the biggest spenders when it comes to charities.
If the Salvation Army was really concerned about getting donations, they would stop ring those goddamn bells and just sit there and smile. I've not shopped at stores because of those damn bells.
The bells are festive!
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what? they don't sing in America?
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Target is one of the biggest spenders when it comes to charities.
I think that is a point worth repeating. You can of course take your business to a store like Wallmart who does less for charities & their own employees.
Personally I like the bellringers & the Salvation Army charity & it's to bad Target couldn't have continued making an exception for them.
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Not only is the Salvation Army one of the worlds greatest charities, but they're also a symbol of modern Chistmas tradition. If Target wants to distance themselves from Christmas tradition, then that's fine by me, but when I want to do Christmas shopping I'll just take my buisiness elsewhere.
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Target, in a flurry of political correct lunacy has barred the Salvation Army kettle bell ringers from thier stoops. Regardless of your religious persuasion (I'm a Cristiann, but take issue w/ the SA on alot of serious doctrinal issues) The Salvation Army does incredible and important cheritible work and asks nothing in return of the recipiants.
I do not support the Salvation Army based on its attitudes toward homosexuality.
Sorry. No kettle of theirs gets any more of my change.
That Target has barred them...I do not give a shit.
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So what's this controversy over the Salvation Army about? I've never heard of this.
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Sorry. No kettle of theirs gets any more of my change.
Hopefully that change has found a new charitible home.
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So what's this controversy over the Salvation Army about? I've never heard of this.
They will not accepting gays who actually do have sex in the Army as soldiers (they take this military metaphor very seriously).
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So what's this controversy over the Salvation Army about? I've never heard of this.
They will not accepting gays who actually do have sex in the Army as soldiers (they take this military metaphor very seriously).
I'm having trouble following what you just said.
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I did stuff for the Salvation Army's Kettle Campaign back in the high school. We actually got tired of the bells, so I dug the lyrics of some CD out of my car and we sung carols instead, which was much more fun.
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I apologize.
The Salvation Army won't accept practicing gays (uncelibate gays) into its ranks as Army soliders. The Army actually has a rank system just like the Military.
You cannot be a soldier in the Salvation Army if you are a gay person who behaves as a gay person.
If you remain celibate, however, you can be inducted.
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i've never seen one sing.
we had a Salvation Army lady in front of the store I work at today. All that bitch did for 8 hours was sing! and she never once went to the bathroom. I was impressed.
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Not only is the Salvation Army one of the worlds greatest charities, but they're also a symbol of modern Chistmas tradition. If Target wants to distance themselves from Christmas tradition, then that's fine by me, but when I want to do Christmas shopping I'll just take my buisiness elsewhere.
But Target is one of the biggest donators to charity, so you could either go to Wal-Mart who has bell ringers (and could give a shit less about charities) so you can toss in your spare change, or you could shop at Target who doesn't have bell ringers, but gives a large sum of money to various charities. You're still screwing over charity organizations by choosing to shop elsewhere, and frankly I'd rather shop at Target than Wal-Mart in this case. I never give to those bell ringers anyway. They get on my damn nerves, and I've met more of them that need a good kick in the dick than ones that don't.
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I apologize.
The Salvation Army won't accept practicing gays (uncelibate gays) into its ranks as Army soliders. The Army actually has a rank system just like the Military.
You cannot be a soldier in the Salvation Army if you are a gay person who behaves as a gay person.
If you remain celibate, however, you can be inducted.
Well they are a religios orginization. Alot of churches don't allow homosexuals to serve in ministering positions, but like I said if you don't feel comfortable giving to them don't show your opposition to them by holding on to your money (and I'm not saying you do this) show your opposition by giving generously to a charity that you can get behind.
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what? they don't sing in America?
There are some that sing, others that play an instrument, depends on the person. I've always thought it would be fun to do that stand there with a couple friends and just sing. 
But then that's the old choir geek in me talking and I had actually done something similar back in high school during my short stint with key club. We went downtown and stood in front of stores and collected money for battered and abused women. It amazed me that rich people were so stingy and that someone from the store kicked us out from in front of the store, made us go stand on the corners. We weren't being rude or harrassing, just polite high schoolers.
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Well they are a religios orginization. Alot of churches don't allow homosexuals to serve in ministering positions, but like I said if you don't feel comfortable giving to them don't show your opposition to them by holding on to your money (and I'm not saying you do this) show your opposition by giving generously to a charity that you can get behind.
I will give my money as I see fit. Charity begins at home. If I was rolling in dough, fine, but I'm not.
I show my displeasure to the Salvation Army army by telling the bell ringers why I don't donate.
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Thats just wrong! I look forward to the bell ringers on Christmas. Its cool feeling like you've done something for someone by donating to a worthy cause.
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...show your opposition by giving generously to a charity that you can get behind.
No pun intended, right?
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No pun intended, right?
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Well they are a religios orginization. Alot of churches don't allow homosexuals to serve in ministering positions, but like I said if you don't feel comfortable giving to them don't show your opposition to them by holding on to your money (and I'm not saying you do this) show your opposition by giving generously to a charity that you can get behind.
I will give my money as I see fit. Charity begins at home. If I was rolling in dough, fine, but I'm not.
I show my displeasure to the Salvation Army army by telling the bell ringers why I don't donate.
 So you harangue the bell ringers as to why you don't give to THEM all the while little do they know you don't give to anyone and probobly wouldn't give to them even if 90% of thier Soldiers were gay.
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I think people are losing sight of the big picture. The Salvation Army is really just about the best charity out there. It doesn't discriminate to who it gives aid too but who needs it. Target is not a charity but has a record of generosity that sets it apart from other retail chains. Punishing either one seems counter constructive.
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I think people are losing sight of the big picture. The Salvation Army is really just about the best charity out there. It doesn't discriminate to who it gives aid too but who needs it. Target is not a charity but has a record of generosity that sets it apart from other retail chains. Punishing either one seems counter constructive.
That leaves us with quite a catch 22 then doesn't it.
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There are other ways to donate to the salvation army.
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