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Slipping through cracks, the cover to January’s Previews has been leaked, revealing apparently DC’s next major event following Identity Crisis, DC Countdown.

DC’s solicitations for March-shipping books are due to be released early next week. Until then, speculation rules.




Update 11:12 am EST: At his blog Jim Lee posted the following side-by-side, pencils to finished version comparision, adding:

Soooooooo I guess the image is out. Been having to keep this under my hat for some time now. Yep, the second cover that I collaborated on with Mr. Alex Ross and once again, he delivers the goodies. I already like how the fans are speculating who Batman is holding...but good luck.

This puppy has a million things built-in to throw you off. (Can't make it that obvious =duh=). Unfortunately the original was GIGANTIC and had to scan it in two parts. Our studio scanner was on the fritz so the lower half did not capture the gray tones for some reason (= D).

Still, was fun to draw so many DC heroes assembled on one piece and of course, Alex shines an incredible light onto it all. Very ethereal. I like how he improved upon Green Lantern and Hawkman the best. For a closer look, peek here.


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I think the guy he's holding is Nightwing.


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Note how Superman's in the foreground, and WW seems to be holding him back.

The figure to me, appears to be a bald man in a suit. Bald man in a suit connected to Superman=Lex Luthor. Could be wrong.

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Either that or a mask that pulls up over the head.


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Oh great: Greg Rucka, Geoff Johns, and Judd Winnick.

Gah! Don't they have enough books already? Couldn't they have handed this over to Grant Morrison, Brian K. Vaugn, and mayhaps Karl Kesel? Whatever it is?

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I'm so sick of Geoff Johns. He tries to write like he's James Robinson, Neil Gaiman and Johnny Silver Age all meshed together. And it always ends up being cutesy uber-violent crap where a hero has a moment of pride after being told "that man's the real hero."


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You guys do notice Hal Jordan is there right?

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Well, that makes sense, seeing as how DC has said he'd be taking up the mantle again with Rebirth...

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I like Jim Lee and Alex Ross, but superman looks like a steroid freak.


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I hate the way he makes Batman all buff. He's supposed to have lean trained muscle.

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What do you expect? The dude worked at Image!

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You guys do notice Hal Jordan is there right?




Yeah, and Kyle isn't...hmmmm.

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I hate the way he gives the male heros with skivvies (Batman, Superman) thong/speedo stuff. That makes no sense. Batman's old boxer (as in the sport) short shaped outerpanties are cool, thongs = not cool.


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the older I get, the more stupid I think the red-underwear-on-the-outside looks on Superman. It totally brings attention to his bulge. Maybe Siegel and Shuster were gay costume fetishists?

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Originally he had shorts. Right? I think.

I think it's Nightwing too.


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I hate the way he makes Batman all buff. He's supposed to have lean trained muscle.



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  • around-since-the-silverage type characters (hal, hawkman, fate).
  • batman holding the fallen
  • superman appearing to equally want to rush in
  • the suit appears to have a blackish/blueish hue
  • note: the appearance of starfire in the background (accompanied by wally)


in addition to much of the creative staff being involved with nightwing or batman-revolving characters.

all indications point towards it being nightwing.

which is exactly why it isn't.



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Even though this image is totally sick, I still wish hed give ol wondey her tried and true wonder-bikinis.


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If it does end up being Nightwing, I will be pissed. Enough of Batmans group has been killed.


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Are you kidding me? The Bat "family" needs to be downsized. Big time.

Although, I wish it was Oracle kicking the bucket.

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It could be something like the cover from Crisis #7, only from another angle. Nightwing would be an approapiate replacement for Supergirl, in that case.


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I, too, hope it isn't Nightwing.

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  • around-since-the-silverage type characters (hal, hawkman, fate).
  • batman holding the fallen
  • superman appearing to equally want to rush in
  • the suit appears to have a blackish/blueish hue
  • note: the appearance of starfire in the background (accompanied by wally)


in addition to much of the creative staff being involved with nightwing or batman-revolving characters.

all indications point towards it being nightwing.

which is exactly why it isn't.




Much as I hate to say it, Rob is right.

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Are you kidding me? The Bat "family" needs to be downsized. Big time.

Although, I wish it was Oracle kicking the bucket.




Agreed on your first point. But Oracle is the most unique of the bat-family. The information gatherer and co-ordinator. Why would you kill her instead of one of the half dozen costumed proteges?


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Cuz' I find her to be more annoying than interesting, that's why.

She's also a security risk. I'd rather see Batman do his info gathering on his own.

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There's other ways to downsize the bat family. They don't need to kill them. Have some move to other cities, retire or something else.


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I don't care how they get rid of em' just get rid of em'.

Death is just more preferable. Especially in Barb's case.

Leave Cass though. Untapped potential there. Take away her voice again too.

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She can talk? I thought she was deaf.

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You do realize, of course, that there are many deaf people who can talk, yes?

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...yes...
I was just under the impression she couldn't talk.

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In the beginning she couldn't, but then WHAM!, she could. It was in the middle of a fight and cost her a few bruises.

It was stupid.

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Could be Alfred.

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I have this theory that Alfred is an immortal. Like a concept made manifest. A universal constant as it were. If it were Alfred, that whole theory would be shot to pieces. PIECES, I say!

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If it's Alfred (which I'm not saying it isn't) why are all the other heroes present? Do that many heroes even know Alfred on that level? Heck, does Starfire even know Bats' secret ID?

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If she knows Dick's then she may have put 2 and 2 together.

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I don't see how being familiar with The Bat-Man's dick equals knowing his secret identity.


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If it's Alfred (which I'm not saying it isn't) why are all the other heroes present? Do that many heroes even know Alfred on that level? Heck, does Starfire even know Bats' secret ID?




Everyone knows Bat's secret ID. It's probably the worst kept secret in the DC Universe.

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I don't see how being familiar with The Bat-Man's dick equals knowing his secret identity.





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