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The New Radicals: How Liberal Campuses Harass Conservatives

    BERKELEY, California - The latest elections show a country divided half and half between red and blue, but you would not know it to look at today's public universities. They have become a haven for 1960s-style radicals. So when University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill said the Americans killed on 9-11 deserved it, his words did not seem all that shocking on many campuses.

    Churchhill is not the only radical Left professor who spews anti-American statements on campus these days. In fact, Dan Flynn says nearly every public university in the U.S. is dominated by the Left and an overwhelming number of liberals on the faculties. Flynn keeps an eye on such professors through the Conservative Leadership Institute and wrote about them in his book, "Intellectual Morons."

    A new study Flynn is just releasing shows how lopsidedly they donated cash to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). He remarked, "At Harvard, for instance, for every 32 dollars that went to John Kerry, one went to George W. Bush. At MIT just down the road, it was 43 to one. At Princeton, it was about 300 dollars for Kerry for every one dollar to Bush."

    Almost half of the students recently surveyed for the American Council of Trustees and Alumni at the nation's top 50 universities say their professors, most of them Left-leaning, comment often on politics in their classrooms, even if the course they are teaching has nothing to do with politics.

    Bucknell University's Allison Kasic told us about a chemistry class held the day after the election.

    Kasic said, "Basically, half the class of an hour-and-a-half class was just spent complaining about the election and saying how dumb the country is. And how does that help you learn anything about chemistry?"

    In the same survey, nearly a third of students said they feel they have to agree with their professors' political or social views in order to get a good grade.

    ACTA (Association of College Trustees and Alumni) President Anne Neal said, "We were really quite shocked that there was such a great degree of evidence of political pressure in the classroom."

    Amaury Gallais, Vanessa Wiseman and Andrea Irvin all hold offices in Berkeley’s Club of the College Republicans, and all have seen the intimidation and prejudice against all things conservative at their famously radical university.

    Irvin said, "If the professor has a Leftist opinion in class, students feel very fearful of making a comment to counter that."

    At Foothill College, south of San Francisco, one conservative Kuwaiti student on a visa was ordered to get a mental checkup because of his pro-American views.

    Denis Hiller had a friend who dared write a paper defending capitalism. "The professor gave him an F. On the paper, he wrote a long essay of his own saying explaining why socialism is better. My friend handed in a paper using basically the teacher's talking points, toeing the party line, and got an A."

    Flynn said, "There's a college in Florida that has banned a student group from showing 'The Passion of the Christ' because ostensibly it's R-rated. Now the interesting thing about that is very recently before that, there was an X-rated play about Jesus Christ that was staged on the campus, but they had no problem with that."

    ....whole runs of a conservative campus newspaper have been stolen.

    "Any flyer that promoted anything pro-American, pro-Israel, anything that challenged the dogma of this campus, it would be taken down."

    ...."In the 2000 election, I wanted to register, and they asked what my party affiliation was. I said, 'Republican.' They said, 'We don't register Republicans here.'"

    Former Leftist-radical-turned-conservative firebrand David Horowitz is dedicated to trying to get states and their universities to end all these political shenanigans on-campus and return to offering an objective education.

    Horowitz said, "A law professor opened his class by saying, 'You all know what the R in Republican stands for? It stands for Racist.' A student objected, and the professor slapped the student down, saying 'We have too many Nazis like you on the campus.'"


    Stanford's Bob Sensenbrenner heads up his chapter of College Republicans.

    Sensenbrenner remarked, "I'm always embattled here. We have the administrators approving class, the Stanford Democrats using classrooms to call voters for John Kerry, but if I'm trying to hold a meeting, I get hassled by Meeting Services and get told that I have to leave till they can go back and check their records."

    Flynn said, "When it is almost unanimous for one candidate, it suggests there's something really, really wrong with higher education."

    Yaron stated, "I know of a professor that assigned a paper for students to describe how President Bush is a war criminal."

    Neal said, "If this had been a case of sexual harassment, I dare say that it would have prompted a great deal of attention. It should equally draw attention now, because clearly it's almost a political harassment in the classroom where they're not being allowed to hear both sides of the issue."

    Diversity is all the rage on campus these days -- racial, sexual, cultural diversity -- but maybe in the area where it matters the most, diversity of thought, well, there seems to be less and less tolerance for that.

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During my college years I found it to be wise to not argue with the conservative Prof. or TA that I had. That's life, you learn to buy your own cheese to go with the whine


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Sorry, but having lived in Texas, gone to Texas schools, and dealt with Texas students and professors my entire life, I think the stereotype that all universities are liberal is complete bullshit, as is this ridiculous persecution complex that we've all developed just so we can attack opposing political parties.

And the article lost all credibility as soon as I saw where it came from.


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What bugs me is that no one thinks any of this anti-Conservative bent is any fault of the Conservatives.


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I also hate the extreme anti-left groups on campuses.


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What bugs me is that no one thinks any of this anti-Conservative bent is any fault of the Conservatives.




I think we're supposed to be concerned about the kids having to put up with somebody else's veiwpoint before they go to work for their dad's company.


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You know, students have worried for decadesa about having to "match" their professors opinions on papers and exams in order to pass the course. This is really nothing new.

If it's intensified in recent times, let's please be sure will give equal face time to the possibility of any fault for this resting with the Conservative side before we simply go blaming the Commie pinko fag liberal America-hating professors.


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The problem with arguing that "conservative profs will do it too" is that there are very, very, few conservative professors out there:

    This November, three academics--Daniel Klein (an economist at Santa Clara University), Andrew Western (a student at the same institution), and Charlotta Stern (a professor at Stockholm University)--published two carefully constructed academic studies of party registration and ideology among academics at a range of institutions.

    The full results, downloadable at NAS.org, will eventually be published in Academic Questions, the journal of the National Association of Scholars.

    "The data indicate that the one-party character of academia is quite uniform across campus," summarize Klein and Western.

    The mono-mindedness on campus is actually deeper than even these data indicate, Klein and Western suggest, and likely to deteriorate in the future. Why? Because the few Republicans who do exist on campus are mostly older faculty. Among full professors at Berkeley and Stanford, the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is 7:1. But among younger untenured assistant and associate profes-sors it's a ridiculous 31:1. Among the rising generation of professors, in other words, Republicans are almost extinct.

    This, Klein and Western comment, "strongly suggests the problem has gotten worse over the past decades, and suggests that selection mechanisms have been working in ways that eliminate Republicans.... The situation will get worse before it gets better, because the full professors, where Republicans are to be found, are the ones who will exit the population soonest."

    College campuses today, the authors conclude forcefully, are way out of whack politically. The dominant orthodoxy "amounts to a one-party system. That is no longer a matter of conjecture. It is established fact."

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in today's world, no matter what view/race/gender/etc a person is, if someone isn't doing well its easier to cry discrimination. which sadly takes away from the people who are really facing discrimination.


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The problem with arguing that "conservative profs will do it too" is that there are very, very, few conservative professors out there




This is true. My friend's a Ph. D. molecular geneticist and he's joining the faculty at my alma mater, Miami University here in Ohio. And he discovered during his interview process last autumn that he will be the ONLY Republican professor on the faculty in his department. So he jokingly asked one of them if the department would allow for "diversity" by hiring him LOL.

But, back to G-Man's post...what are we to take from in that there are fewer Conservative professors? Professors historically tend to be liberal. Again, this is nothing new.

If faculties are full of Liberal professors and yet there are more and more Conservative students...I respond...tough shit. I thought part of going out into the "real world" means learning to adapt. So, Conservative students, adapt. Or don't. But stop fucking whining about it. If you have a Conservative argument to make, then make it in a scholarly fashion or don't. But don't whine that the Big Bad Old Liberal Professor doesn't like me and won't pass me because I'm a Conservative.

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Here's my take as a former student (and future grad student, if I'm accepted).

As a student, I hated being indoctrinated, and I hated professors who had a "my way or the highway" attitude when it came to anything subjective (and I was never one to hesistate to challenge a professor's assertions openly, although I was usually polite about it). Actually, I resent anyone doing that to me. Feel free to tell me what to think about, but not what to think. I'm all for hearing ideas that challenge my own, but don't try and tell me "I'm right and you're wrong" if we disagree on anything other than getting solid facts straight.


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Jim Jackson said:Professors historically tend to be liberal. Again, this is nothing new.




Actually, I believe it didn't start to this point until the 1960s, when many people stayed in academia to avoid the draft.

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If faculties are full of Liberal professors and yet there are more and more Conservative students...I respond...tough shit. I thought part of going out into the "real world" means learning to adapt. So, Conservative students, adapt. Or don't. But stop fucking whining about it. If you have a Conservative argument to make, then make it in a scholarly fashion or don't. But don't whine that the Big Bad Old Liberal Professor doesn't like me and won't pass me because I'm a Conservative.




So...discrimination of thought and intellectual stagnation is A-OK as long as the "censors" are liberals?

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I will still assert that are very, very few professors in the United States who present an approach bent on indoctrinating students, compelling them how to think.

If you present an argument counter to the professor's and defend and support it scholarly, much more often than not you will do fine. If your approach is laden with nothing but emotion and sloppy thinking, then you'll get the put down you deserve.


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So...discrimination of thought and intellectual stagnation is A-OK as long as the "censors" are liberals?




Would you like some type of quota system set up? Should it be an interview question? Not quite sure what your asking for G-man.


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Actually, I believe it didn't start to this point until the 1960s, when many people stayed in academia to avoid the draft.





I'm sorry, but that's wrong.

Many professors were harrassed during the 1950s under the McCarthy ideology and Red Scare that ran rampant and paranoid in the United States. Edward Tolman, psychologist at California, was terminated for refusing to sign a Loyalty Oath. He was later reinstated.

James J. Gibson, psychologist at Cornell, after the war, lost much of the military funding he enjoyed during his service in World War II because he supported the Teachers' Union and because he was a Liberal.


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So...discrimination of thought and intellectual stagnation is A-OK as long as the "censors" are liberals?




Of course not. But I maintain that perahps it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Colleges and univserities have historically been Liberal institutions.


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My previous statement was unclear. I apologize.

It was not my intent to imply they were not liberal. I was trying to explain that, while they may have been historically liberal, it was not as extreme or lopsided as it has been since the 1960s.

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College campuses today, the authors conclude forcefully, are way out of whack politically. The dominant orthodoxy "amounts to a one-party system. That is no longer a matter of conjecture. It is established fact."





So, G-Man, what do you suggest? Firing Liberal professors because they're Liberal? Or as was suggested, some kind of quota system?


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Just a thought: how many conservatives actually want to be college professors? Is the liberal/conservative professor ratio lopsided because universities aren't inclined to hire conservatives (and I've had a couple conservative professors), or because conservatives aren't as interested in becoming college professors as liberals are?

Just a queation that popped into my mind, because I've head quite a few conservatives show disdain for colleges and universities.

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The first thing I would suggest as a whole is a real acknowledgement of the problem so that we, as a society, can discuss solutions.


In the short term, I think professors who engage in the type of behaviors described above should be fired, tenure or no tenure.

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The first thing I would suggest as a whole is a real acknowledgement of the problem so that we, as a society, can discuss solutions.




What's the problem? That there are too many Liberal professors? Or that there's some concern that Liberal professors don't tolerate dissenting points of view?


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Why don't we go after the professors who are just piss-poor teachers first? That's probably a bigger problem with a more severe impact.

I think DK's right...most Conservatives don't want to be college profs. It's a historically Liberal environment and one that's not overwhelmingly lucrative except for the Sciences and Engineering.


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Among full professors at Berkeley and Stanford, the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is 7:1. But among younger untenured assistant and associate profes-sors it's a ridiculous 31:1. Among the rising generation of professors, in other words, Republicans are almost extinct.




Well, firstly, this is taken from Berkeley and Stanford.

Secondly, while I don't have any numbers to back this theory up, I think that's probably pretty typical of those universities, going back decades. The reason I think they lessen among full professors is that, generally, younger people are more liberal, but as they get older, their opinions are no longer considered liberal. A lot of the conservative ideas now wouldn't have been nearly as conservative in years past.

Thirdly, the fact that those numbers are referred to as a "problem" is unfair, I think. As Jim said, it should only be a "problem" if it was more common for liberal professors to be against opposing viewpoints than conservative ones. It shouldn't matter what political party they support. Just as it shouldn't matter what race, gender, creed or sexual orientation they are.

I agree that those who commonly exhibit a high level of favoritism should be disciplined, and in some cases, fired.

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Perhaps for those colleges.


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Am I the only person who fails to understand why conservatives see liberal majorities in Universities as vindication of their allegations of some anti-conservative bias? After all, all this show is that some of the best-educated, most-informed people America overwhelmingly reject the GOP. Why is this seen as an indictment of academia, rather than as an indictment of the Republican Party?

All I'm reading here in that article and in some of the posts is that the only reason faculties lean so far to the left is that deans, administrators and entire university cultures systematically discriminate against conservatives.

I don't, however, see much evidence outside the article to back this up. Mostly, the assumption here is that the leftward tilt is prima facie evidence of anti-conservative discrimination. Yet when liberals hold up minority underrepresentation at some institutions as proof of discrimination, conservatives are justifiably skeptical.


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Am I the only person who fails to understand why conservatives see liberal majorities in Universities as vindication of their allegations of some anti-conservative bias? After all, all this show is that some of the best-educated, most-informed people America overwhelmingly reject the GOP. Why is this seen as an indictment of academia, rather than as an indictment of the Republican Party?





Well, consider who posted the story in the first place. G-Man's undeniably a nice guy, a good poster, and by all indications, a good guy. But he's Conservative. So naturally, G-Man will go for things that support the Conservative. IMHO, it's natural for him to view this as an indictment of academia rather than of the Conservative Party. And, as I've discovered, the majority of posters in this forum are of a more Conservative poltiical stance.

Now, in no way do I support a Liberal prof failing a Conservative student on an assignment in which the student completely and scholarly supported his thesis. That's bad pedagogy and should be brought to the University's attention.

I also do not feel it's a problem that Universities in general are havens for Liberalism. As I've said, this has LONG been the case. I think it's also the general case that educated people (people with advanced degrees) tend to be Liberal. And Universities are full of educated people LOL.


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I don't, however, see much evidence outside the article to back this up. Mostly, the assumption here is that the leftward tilt is prima facie evidence of anti-conservative discrimination.




What I would want to see, to support the idea that there is Conservative discrimination in American universities, is Conservative students coming forward with papers or assignments in which they expressed a Conservative thesis, supported it fully and scholarly, and received a C or worse.

To me, this and only this would serve as evidence that Liberal professors are discriminating against Conservative students.

If it's just some students *worrying* that their Liberal profs won't fairly grade their Conservative work, that's insufficient. EVERY student worries about satisfying their professors.


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I also do not feel it's a problem that Universities in general are havens for Liberalism. As I've said, this has LONG been the case. I think it's also the general case that educated people (people with advanced degrees) tend to be Liberal. And Universities are full of educated people LOL.




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If someone points out real stats that show I'm wrong, I'll gladly apologize. I meant no offense by it. But if you extend the idea that Universities are Liberal bastions, then it only makes sense to assert that most educated people are Liberal.

Universities are full of educated people. It's kind of a prerequisite for getting a job. And Universities are Liberal bastions.

Draw the conclusion.

And, I never said it was universal, that ALL educated people are Liberal. Or that all Liberals are educated. Or that Conservatives are not educated.

But I know from my own anecdotal evidence, educated people are Liberals.


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It's also fair to point out that G-man offers a very one sided view of accounts. In the case of the student who received an F for his paper & was ordered to receive a mental check up, Media Matters actually has both sides of the story.
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According to Woolcock, he never "threatened" al-Qloushi's visa status or "threatened" him "into seeking regular psychological treatment," as al-Qloushi claimed. Woolcock also noted that al-Qloushi had "failed to write the mid-term assignment" and had turned down offers of assistance before turning in his final term paper:


When I read the paper, it became clear to me that it did not respond to the question. In late November, after grading all final papers, I asked Mr. al-Qloushi to come and discuss with me the grade. ... [H]e expressed in great detail, concerns and feelings of high anxiety he was having about certain developments which had occurred over ten years ago in his country. Some aspects of his concerns were similar to certain concerns expressed in his paper.

Based on the nature of the concerns and the feelings of high anxiety which he expressed, I encouraged him to visit one of the college counselors. I neither forced nor ordered Mr. al-Qloushi to see a counselor; I have no authority to do so. My suggestion to him was a recommendation he freely chose to accept and which he acknowledged in an e-mail message to me on December 1, 2004.

Foothill College counselors are competent and highly respected professionals capable of providing professional services to students, and faculty members are always encouraged by the college administration to make such referrals to college counselors as the need may arise.

In my conversation with Mr. al-Qloushi, I did not make any reference, explicitly or implicity [sic], to the Dean of International Students or to any other Dean. In my conversation with Mr. al-Qloushi, I did not make any reference, explicit or implicit, to Mr. al-Qloushi's status as an international student. At the time of our conversation, Mr. al-Qloushi was still enrolled in my class, but after he met with the counselor, he never returned to the class.

I deny unequivocally all the allegations Mr. al-Qloushi has attributed to me regarding my suggestion to him that it might be helpful for him to discuss his long-standing concerns with a college counselor, as I have described here. All the other allegations made are false and have no basis whatsoever in fact.

Al-Qloushi's essay, which is posted on Horowitz's Students for Academic Freedom website, has been described by conservative blogger and political science professor James Joyner as "an incredibly poorly written, error-ridden, pabulum-filled [sic], essay that essentially ignores the question put forth by the instructor." Another conservative blogger, political science professor Steven Taylor, concluded: "I can see how this essay resulted in a failing grade."



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3. Dye and Zeigler contend that the constitution of the United States was not “ordained and established” by “the people” as we have so often been led to believe. They contend instead that it was written by a small educated and wealthy elite in America who representative of powerful economic and political interests. Analyze the US constitution (original document), and show how its formulation excluded majority of the people living in America at that time, and how it was dominated by America’s elite interest.

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Dye and Zeigler contend that the constitution of the United States was not “ordained and established” by “the people” as we have so often been led to believe. They contend instead that it was written by small educated and wealthy elite in America who were representative of powerful economic and political interests. This paper will CRITICALLY analyze the US constitution and how it was a progressive document FOR ITS TIME. And how it symbolizes and embodies what America is today a just and democratic society where all men and women are created equal and that men and women are free to pursue their own happiness and fulfillment.

I completely disagree with Dye and Zeigler’s contention that the founding father had ONLY their best interests at heart and that that the constitution of the United States was a progressive document for its time compared to the aristocratic monarchies of Western Europe (excluding Britain). The American constitution worried monarchs in Europe. The right for men to choose their own representatives was unheard of in the rest of the world. Yet in a young country which freed itself from the shackles of the greatest empire of the time. The founding fathers were stalwart heroes who led the brave young men of this great land and in order to establish a democracy maybe not a direct or perfect democracy but one that guarantees the freedom of its citizens. It is ludicrous to assume that a direct democracy can succeed in the United States. Yet in the last ballots of November 2nd 2004 the people of the United States DID get a chance of influencing their political decisions in their country and that is thanks to the US constitution established by the great men of America like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.

These men paved the way for what America is today the country of opportunity and freedom. These men were men of nationalism and men who took great pride in formulating what is today the greatest country in the world and thank god that it is so. Because of America the world is free. America vanquished Nazi Germany. America helped establish the great nation of Israel a democratic society in a troubled region. America freed Japan and South Korea. America freed Kuwait and now is currently in a fight to free Iraq and its 25,000,000 residents and vanquish the tyranny and monstrosity of Saddam Hussein. The US constitution and the Founding Fathers helped build the foundation to which all this was established.


It is through the efforts of America’s great leaders like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Frederick Delano Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, current President Bush and most importantly the American troops who risked their lives for the freedom of America and the freedom of others that this country is so great and prosperous.

The US constitution might have required many amendments for its to catch up with modern times but no nation had a constitution which challenged the US in terms of equality and freedom at that particular time which made the document a very sophisticated one for its time a document which was feared by monarchs as being “too progressive”. It’s because of the American constitution and the American “elites” that Dye and Zeigler could critique this constitution and Americas Founding Fathers. It is because of America’s constitution that thousands of people wish to live there and walk amongst the free. “The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest.”
President Thomas Jefferson.

The United States constitution might have excluded the majority of people at the time. But it progressed and America like every nation in the world progressed and became a greater nation the constitution is now a document held in great esteem by Americans the Founding Fathers of America are greatly enshrined in dollar bills and the American people are proud of their country and history.

It is the American constitution that helps the American government to solve its problems in legal ways and in ways that will bring true American justice and resolve. The American foundation was built by the American constitution and the Founding Fathers and nothing can destroy these foundations.

“Terrorist attacks can shake the foundations of our biggest buildings, but they cannot touch the foundation of America. These acts shatter steel, but they cannot dent the steel of American resolve.” President George W Bush.

America is a nation which has survived problems and many attacks on its soil yet the American will did not hesitate. America stood its ground and the Founding Fathers are the ones who built the Foundation that this ground were built upon. It is wonderful to have the freedom to argue Dye and Zeigler contentions and that is also due to the US constitution.

If the constitution was so negative then how did the United States the most powerful nation in the world today. If it was so negative how did the Soviet Union collapse in the Cold War? The United States constitution is a great document which for its time was extremely progressive and the evidence to the that is the United States’ accomplishments to date.

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What's your point?

I'm not a Consitiution scholar. I can't answer whether or not the student's response is a *scholarly* work. You need another Constitution scholar to evaluate the work to see if it's a scholarly response. And what year of college is this guy in?

What grade did this response get?

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What's your point?



Did you read the essay?

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I'm not a Consitiution scholar. I can't answer whether or not the student's response is a *scholarly* work. You need another Constitution scholar to evaluate the work to see if it's a scholarly response.



No you don't, actually, since the essay has very little to do with the Constitution itself. Simply read the question asked, then try to find a response to the question within the essay.

Good luck.

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And what year of college is this guy in?



That really shouldn't matter and for this essay I don't think it does. For the sake of argument, let's CONSERVATIVELY assume this student is in his very first semester in college (which, I'm quite sure he isn't).

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What grade did this response get?




An F.

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I see your point.

The student doesn't answer the question. And clearly, there is no point in introducing comments made by G. W. Bush--he is clearly not one of the men who wrote the Constitution.

I'd give him the poor grade, too, now that I've delved into it.

Of course, someone on this board will surely argue that the Professor framed the question in an "anti-American"/pro-Liberal fashion.


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Can't say I care for the question & how it's framed but I would say the student deserved an F. Like many students who get a bad grade it never enters their mind that may have deserved the grade. Guess it paid off though, since he got a couple of TV appearances & is now a hero for some conservatives.


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I won't disagree the question is framed with the slant.

If the student felt that question was framed with too much of a Liberal slant, then it behooves the student to use his scholarship to disagree with the question in his answer using the framework of the question (sticking with writers of the Constitution rather than drawing in remarks from Bush).


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I also do not feel it's a problem that Universities in general are havens for Liberalism. As I've said, this has LONG been the case. I think it's also the general case that educated people (people with advanced degrees) tend to be Liberal. And Universities are full of educated people LOL.




Are you really prepared for the shitstorm this statement is going to cause?





I think the main causes of the partisan disparity on campus have little to do with anything so nefarious as discrimination (or with Republicans not being that smart ). First, Republicans don't particularly want to be professors. To go into academia — a highly competitive field that does not offer great riches — you have to believe that living the life of the mind is more valuable than making a Wall Street salary. On most issues that offer a choice between having more money in your pocket and having something else — a cleaner environment, universal health insurance, etc. — conservatives tend to prefer the money and liberals tend to prefer the something else. It's not so surprising that the same thinking would extend to career choices.


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