Quote: Darknight613 said: What was the origin he came up with?
Some guy killed his family and he went insane.....That's it. Completely ignorant of Killing Joke's set [continuity/overall point for Joker's character].
Quote: How was he reverted to B-villain?
Leiberman has essentially wrote him out as a weakling through and through. Not at all smart. Just a backseat rogue that moves on strings twisted by other characters.
Quote: When and how?
In Death and the Maidens he replaced Re's Al Ghul with his "other daughter". She killed him and had his ashes burned and then--This is the worst part--Caused Talia to loathe Batman (after she put her in the Laz Pit.
Leiberman doesn't have a background, he's just some writer. Seriously, nuthin' to it.
