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From the NY Daily News:

    If Ralph Nader doesn't stop dropping the N-bomb, Al Sharpton is going to wash out his mouth with soap.
    "Nader is not a racist by any stretch of the imagination," Sharpton told me yesterday. "He has a good track record. But he ought to be sensitive that he does not sanitize that word."

    Speaking Wednesday night at a Washington fund-raiser to retire the debt from his 2004 presidential campaign, Nader complained that Democratic Party powerbrokers had kept him off the ballot in such Southern states as Georgia and Virginia - which reminded him of the oppressive Jim Crow laws that denied African-Americans equal rights.

    "I felt like a [n-word]," remarked the 70-year-old white multimillionaire graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

    Washington gadfly Evan Gahr reported Nader's comments on his chimpstein.com Web site.

    "If Ed Koch had said what Ralph Nader said, we'd be marching," Sharpton noted. "This [scolding] doesn't rise to the level of a march. It rises to the level of a wrist slap."

    Yesterday, Nader told me he was using the word in the same spirit as the Black Panthers of the 1960s - "as a word of defiance."

    But Sharpton retorted: "He's not a Black Panther."

    Democratic operative Harold Ickes - a former civil rights activist who lost a kidney in 1965 after being beaten to a pulp by white racists in Tallulah, La. - was also troubled by Nader's use of the epithet.

    "It's not something that I would say," Ickes told me yesterday. "Having grown up in the 1950s and 1960s, I think it's not a word that whites can use.

    "It's unfortunate and he may regret it."


Thoughts?

I find it interesting that Sharpton essentially admits that he picks and chooses which politicians get a "pass" on these things.

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I'd hardly call what Sharpton is giving him a "pass."

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I like Al Sharpton alot. Sharpton voiced his dipleasure, and made it clear it was not acceptable. Nader used poor judgement......period. It's a word that should not be used .......especially not from a politician. Poor Form.

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I'd hardly call what Sharpton is giving him a "pass."




Considering that Sharpton's usual tactic in such things is a massive protest, not a gentle rebuke, I'd call it a pass.

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No I disagree. Sharpton acted appropriately.

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I think here he acted appropriately.

My concern is that he admits he would not if it was a politician he didnt "like," say, Ed Koch.

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I, too, like AL Sharpton. He's a charismatic, consistant, and caring man. If he ran for President, I would vote for him.

I think after using that word, Nader can kiss whatever few votes he used to get during his feeble attempts at the White House goodbye.

The Black Panthers could use that word in public. They are black. It was used in conjunction with making a statement about how blacks are often percieved and treated in a prejudice America.

Nader said that word in public. He is white. He made a statement, too.

That he is an asshole.


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I, too, like AL Sharpton. He's a charismatic, consistant, and caring man.




Except for those "isolated incidents" of stealing campaign funds, orchestrating the "Tawana Brawley" hoax and leading marchers in choruses of "Blood Sucking Jews" and "Jew Bastards," that is.

As noted above, I think Sharpton was right in his comments to Nader. Too bad he doesn't practice what he preaches towards Jews, however.

Also, I am surprised that Nader even did this. You would think someone with his history would not have ever made these statements. I wonder if he isn't starting to lose it.

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G-Man are you a rascist?

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I like Al Sharpton alot.






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I, too, like AL Sharpton. He's a charismatic, consistant, and caring man. If he ran for President, I would vote for him.





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In 1995, Sharpton marched besides picketers protesting a Jewish-owned business in Harlem as they shouted "blood-sucking Jews" and "Jew bastards." That little exercise in brotherhood resulted in eight deaths, when a protester rushed into the store and started shooting employees.

I looked that up from G - Man's previous post in here.

I did not know that, and the other things about Al Sharpton.

It was still wrong for Nader to use the N word.

And Sharpton is wrong..for lots of stuff.

I would vote for a Black president.... If he didn't do or say bad things.

Oh wait! That gets rid of EVERY Politician. Oh well.

Breakfast, anyone?

Ps - Sharpton was right, Nader shoulda kept his mouth shut, and not used that word.


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Only problem with the site you checked Beardguy is its a Conservative based site spewing out propaganda and hate towards minorities and homosexuals.

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CNN, Fox News and Jewish World Review are "Conservative based site[s] spewing out propaganda and hate towards minorities and homosexuals"?

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Only problem with the site you checked Beardguy is its a Conservative based site spewing out propaganda and hate towards minorities and homosexuals.





Agghhh! I don't know..who..to ..trust..anymore!!!!!!

Hey, here comes a BIG guy in a black mask, suit, cape, etc, with a funny looking , glowing red sword - like thingie..and he breathes kinda funny...Gee..I think I'll trust Him!!!!



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Rascism is a very ugly human trait.

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The incident with Sharpton's supporters chanting "blood sucking Jews," etc., has also been reported by the Economist and NBC newsman Tim Russsert.

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After hundreds of years of oppression I think the Black Community deserves to be a "little" angry.

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So that justifies anti-semitism and a furthering of the cycle of racism?

Are you an anti-Semite (he asks rhetorically)?

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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.

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Considering that Sharpton's usual tactic in such things is a massive protest, not a gentle rebuke, I'd call it a pass.



Again, I wouldn't call going to the media outlets "a gentle rebuke" either. Yes, he has started massive protests in the past but that doesn't make anything less a pass.

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I think here he acted appropriately.

My concern is that he admits he would not if it was a politician he didnt "like," say, Ed Koch.



You're putting words in his mouth. He never said his response had anything to do with whether or not he liked the politician.

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Rascism is a very ugly human trait.




It is. I cried when I saw movies like " Mississippi Burning ", " Rosewood ", etc.

Those movies..and the " Should America aplogize for the Lynchings ? ", thread, with the images of racial hatred and violence...are sad and disgusting.

And prejudice..racism...still thrives in America.

I hope someday, humans outgrow that shit. The only thing it's doing is holding us back from progressing.


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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.




You are VERY correct, PJ.....there are TWO sides to every story..and a third side...the reality of the entire situation, too....


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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.




You are VERY correct, PJ.....there are TWO sides to every story..and a third side...the reality of the entire situation, too....


The truth always lies in the middle.......many people in the far right or left don't want to see this.

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CNN, Fox News and Jewish World Review are "Conservative based site[s] spewing out propaganda and hate towards minorities and homosexuals"?




Funny,CNN has never struck me as being overly conservative.In fact,two years ago when the Iraq war began I seem to recall accusations of anti-Americanism being levelled against it because its correspondent in Baghdad,Peter Arnett,seemed overly sympathetic to Saddam Hussein.

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Thank you, Oakley, for knocking this thread down a notch.

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Jeez,Wednesday,get a grip.I was simply trying to point out that CNN and Fox don't necessarily belong in the same ideological category.

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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.




You're pulling some serious Whomod downtime with this bullshit.

Next thing you're gonna say is that you're pro-reparations.

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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.




You are VERY correct, PJ.....there are TWO sides to every story..and a third side...the reality of the entire situation, too....


The truth always lies in the middle.......many people in the far right or left don't want to see this.




Could you two make fuck somewhere else please?

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Which part was Whomodian? The part where he said there are two sides to every story or the part where he said you don't want to hear the other side?

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No. It's just there are 2 sides to every story. You don't want to hear their side.




You are VERY correct, PJ.....there are TWO sides to every story..and a third side...the reality of the entire situation, too....


The truth always lies in the middle.......many people in the far right or left don't want to see this.




Could you two make fuck somewhere else please?






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Jeez,Wednesday,get a grip.I was simply trying to point out that CNN and Fox don't necessarily belong in the same ideological category.


Yes but your response was to GMan who was being sarcastic when he said CNN was a source of conservative news.

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What happened to your Joker avatar?

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Which part was Whomodian? The part where he said there are two sides to every story or the part where he said you don't want to hear the other side?




The part where he decided to be an ad hominem whore.

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I'm not sure how saying "Sharpton acted appropriately here" but wishing he'd act/or had acted equally appropriately in other situations is somehow indicative of some refusal to hear the other side.

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I'm not sure how saying "Sharpton acted appropriately here" but wishing he'd act/or had acted equally appropriately in other situations is somehow indicative of some refusal to hear the other side.




Me either.


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Jeez,Wednesday,get a grip.I was simply trying to point out that CNN and Fox don't necessarily belong in the same ideological category.


Yes but your response was to GMan who was being sarcastic when he said CNN was a source of conservative news.




He was?

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Which part was Whomodian? The part where he said there are two sides to every story or the part where he said you don't want to hear the other side?




The part where he decided to be an ad hominem whore.



Being an "ad hominem whore" is hardly a trait of Whomod alone. That's just about everyone here.

Heck, you're using an ad hominem argument right now.

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