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Like me, you may have spent the past few days starting questions that you just couldn't finish out loud.

Questions about the man, the horse and the goings-on at that farm in Enumclaw. Why would he ... ?

And then, how did they ... ?

But then, wouldn't it ... ?

There are answers, to be sure. Just none I can print here.

But this I can: On July 2, a 45-year-old Seattle man died from something called acute peritonitis. His colon was perforated while he was having sex with a horse.

The man, who died before he was dropped off at Enumclaw Community Hospital, was traced back to a 40-acre farm where investigators found hundreds of hours of videotape depicting men, including the one who died, having sex with horses. He had bought the stallion earlier this year. His family told a reporter they were surprised at the purchase.

Now we all are surprised — flabbergasted, really — at what was apparently going on down there while the rest of us were home reading John Irving, foolishly believing that Paris and Nicole milking cows on "The Simple Life" was as perverted as a farm ever gets.

Can someone tell me why a person would want to have sex with a horse?

"And you were referred to me?" asked Maureen Saylor when I called.

She seemed a logical choice. Saylor is a certified sex-offender-treatment provider and a psychiatric nurse who used to run the sex-offender program at Western State Hospital in Tacoma.

There is no profile for someone who has sex with animals.

"It's like sex offenders in general," Saylor said. "A broad spectrum of individuals engaging in sex-offender behavior. High risk, low risk, a single offense or many."

Bestiality is identified in the diagnostic manual as paraphilia, a term used for various sexual deviations.

Over the years, Saylor has interviewed people who, in addition to whatever other sex offenses they have committed, tried to have sex with some kind of animal.

"I have no idea what the percentage is," she said. "But maybe it's something teenaged boys try for a lark and see how far it goes.

"It certainly is an aberration," Saylor said, calling it animal abuse. "But it is hardly new. It has been around probably as long as man."

And yet, bestiality is not against state law here.

Which leads to one more question: Are you kidding me?

King County Sheriff Sue Rahr told me about a case she investigated 15 years ago in which a boy was having sex with the family dog. No law against it.

"It was a real surprise to me," Rahr said. "We need to take a serious look at what the options are here."

State Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, is already on it. She plans to draft legislation this week making bestiality illegal. Great, let's get it on the books.

But out of our heads, our conversations, our questions? That may take a while.

Nicole Brodeur's column appears Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.

For once, she's got nothing.

Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company

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Grimm said:
he just couldn't stand the thought of life without his beloved PJP.

Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)

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Grimm said:
he just couldn't stand the thought of life without his beloved PJP.

Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)

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No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.

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Grimm said:
he just couldn't stand the thought of life without his beloved PJP.

Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)

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No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.

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your "sources." right. the same ones who told you the moon was made of cheese, Joe?

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Truth hurts, don't it? I dunno where you get the "moon is made of cheese" comment (...shut up... ), but I DO know that my sources have you and poor dead Rex screaming "Beget me!!!" to each other one magical night. I notice you aren't denying it. PJP's gonna be pissed when I reveal that to him - you can kiss your cabinet position goodbye. I wonder if he'll consider consolidating the Ministries Of Intoxication and Ass-Whoopery...

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Joe Mama said:

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Grimm said:
he just couldn't stand the thought of life without his beloved PJP.

Brian Jonopolous, we hardly knew ye. (ain't that the truth!)

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No, it ain't. My sources say you knew him biblically.

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your "sources." right. the same ones who told you the moon was made of cheese, Joe?

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Truth hurts, don't it? I dunno where you get the "moon is made of cheese" comment (...shut up... ), but I DO know that my sources have you and poor dead Rex screaming "Beget me!!!" to each other one magical night. I notice you aren't denying it. PJP's gonna be pissed when I reveal that to him - you can kiss your cabinet position goodbye. I wonder if he'll consider consolidating the Ministries Of Intoxication and Ass-Whoopery...

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Joe Mama said:
The headache's gone, isn't it?

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Joe Mama said:
The headache's gone, isn't it?

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is it, Joe? is it?

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Joe Mama said:
The headache's gone, isn't it?

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That's just because Rex pleasured himself into a sock....you can stop faking it now.

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Don't slander poor dead Rex! D'you want his tortured soul haunting you for the rest of your days? No you don't - who wants to pull on a seemingly clean sock, only to get a foot-full of ectoplasm?

PETA president Ingrid Newkirk ...defended ...bestiality. "If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong…If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."

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Rob Kamphausen said:
Details we can't quite comprehend
By Nicole Brodeur

Like me, you may have spent the past few days starting questions that you just couldn't finish out loud.

Questions about the man, the horse and the goings-on at that farm in Enumclaw. Why would he ... ?

And then, how did they ... ?

But then, wouldn't it ... ?

There are answers, to be sure. Just none I can print here.

But this I can: On July 2, a 45-year-old Seattle man died from something called acute peritonitis. His colon was perforated while he was having sex with a horse.

The man, who died before he was dropped off at Enumclaw Community Hospital, was traced back to a 40-acre farm where investigators found hundreds of hours of videotape depicting men, including the one who died, having sex with horses. He had bought the stallion earlier this year. His family told a reporter they were surprised at the purchase.

Now we all are surprised — flabbergasted, really — at what was apparently going on down there while the rest of us were home reading John Irving, foolishly believing that Paris and Nicole milking cows on "The Simple Life" was as perverted as a farm ever gets.

Can someone tell me why a person would want to have sex with a horse?

"And you were referred to me?" asked Maureen Saylor when I called.

She seemed a logical choice. Saylor is a certified sex-offender-treatment provider and a psychiatric nurse who used to run the sex-offender program at Western State Hospital in Tacoma.

There is no profile for someone who has sex with animals.

"It's like sex offenders in general," Saylor said. "A broad spectrum of individuals engaging in sex-offender behavior. High risk, low risk, a single offense or many."

Bestiality is identified in the diagnostic manual as paraphilia, a term used for various sexual deviations.

Over the years, Saylor has interviewed people who, in addition to whatever other sex offenses they have committed, tried to have sex with some kind of animal.

"I have no idea what the percentage is," she said. "But maybe it's something teenaged boys try for a lark and see how far it goes.

"It certainly is an aberration," Saylor said, calling it animal abuse. "But it is hardly new. It has been around probably as long as man."

And yet, bestiality is not against state law here.

Which leads to one more question: Are you kidding me?

King County Sheriff Sue Rahr told me about a case she investigated 15 years ago in which a boy was having sex with the family dog. No law against it.

"It was a real surprise to me," Rahr said. "We need to take a serious look at what the options are here."

State Sen. Pam Roach, R-Auburn, is already on it. She plans to draft legislation this week making bestiality illegal. Great, let's get it on the books.

But out of our heads, our conversations, our questions? That may take a while.

Nicole Brodeur's column appears Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday. Reach her at 206-464-2334 or [Email]nbrodeur@seattletimes.com.[/Email]

For once, she's got nothing.

Copyright © 2005 The Seattle Times Company

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rex said:
STOP JUDGING ME!

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PCG342 said:
Yes. Plastic doesn't feel. Plastic knows not of the pain and of being placed in one's colon.

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