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How do you explain different breeds of the same species in the animal kingdom?
How do you explain different races of people, who seem to have skin color ideally suited to their native climates?
If its all intelligent design, then why have different races of anything?
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I personally think evolution plays some role in how things come to be the way they are, but I feel there's definitely divine intervention involved with it. I think God just likes variety.
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There're tons of reasons that intelligent design makes no sense.
Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
If it's "intelligent design," why do babies die?
If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
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Could you do me a favor next time and just see if you can oversimplify a little bit more? Y'know, go for broke and stuff? Thanks.
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How do you explain different breeds of the same species in the animal kingdom?
How do you explain different races of people, who seem to have skin color ideally suited to their native climates?
If its all intelligent design, then why have different races of anything?
Natural Selection and Morphological Physiology don't necessarily walk hand in hand. This is an academic of the evolution versus creation argument. You'd know this if you actually researched it.
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Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
Why not exactly? Where's the flaw?
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If it's "intelligent design," why do babies die?
Your confusing design flaws with stuctural damage.
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If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
How are you reasoning us as "deeply flawed"?
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If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
How are you reasoning us as "deeply flawed"?
Short lifespan, weaker bodies than most animals, the inability to know the condition of our internal workings without advanced medical equipment (it seems a perfected lifeform would have this ability), nipples on men, the lack of any real defense ability if left naked in the forrest.
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Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
Why not exactly? Where's the flaw?
You don't know much of female physiology, do you kiddo?
Just as an example, girls have to be careful in their personal hygiene to avoid fecal contact with their genitalia. That sound smart to you?
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Could you do me a favor next time and just see if you can oversimplify a little bit more? Y'know, go for broke and stuff? Thanks.
Sorry, this is a message board. And a far too damned Conservative one. I don't have time to prepare a fucking treatise.
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Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
Why not exactly? Where's the flaw?
You don't know much of female physiology, do you kiddo?
Just as an example, girls have to be careful in their personal hygiene to avoid fecal contact with their genitalia. That sound smart to you?
I was gonna say 'If you'd ever eaten pussy or licked balls, you'd know the answer to that question'. 
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If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
How are you reasoning us as "deeply flawed"?
Short lifespan, weaker bodies than most animals, the inability to know the condition of our internal workings without advanced medical equipment (it seems a perfected lifeform would have this ability), nipples on men, the lack of any real defense ability if left naked in the forrest.
Appndices.
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Male pattern baldness.
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So, in the end, you've just proven that "human flaw" is a subjective term. You can nitpick flaws out of anything if you try hard enough. And even then, those "flaws" would only be "flaws" according to certain people.
Thank you for playing.
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Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
Why not exactly? Where's the flaw?
You don't know much of female physiology, do you kiddo?
Just as an example, girls have to be careful in their personal hygiene to avoid fecal contact with their genitalia. That sound smart to you?
Pariah has rejected the concept of female anatomy so that he can stay a virgin forever.
A noble task...I guess. 
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So, in the end, you've just proven that "human flaw" is a subjective term. You can nitpick flaws out of anything if you try hard enough. And even then, those "flaws" would only be "flaws" according to certain people.
Thank you for playing.
The burden of proof for addressing how intelligent design explains the things I've mentioned and that r3x has mentioned falls on those who support ID theory.
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There're tons of reasons that intelligent design makes no sense.
Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
If it's "intelligent design," why do babies die?
If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
We could have our asses above our heads like some animals..eehhhhhh.
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There're tons of reasons that intelligent design makes no sense.
Why put reproductive organs so near excretory organs?
If it's "intelligent design," why do babies die?
If humanity is the final state of intelligent design, why are we so deeply flawed?
I started thinking about this actually, and it really grossed me out..the excretory stuff. Anyway strictly speaking man invented waxing hair, cutting hair, and toilet paper, and man infered the first need to wipe ass. Now I was thinking, purely biologically--pubic hair would prevent much of the infection because of dingleberries and clotting off shit to untamed ass hair (with the exception of the squirts). We, after all, are the ones who insist on wiping from back to front, and not front to back (depending on the person of course).We are the ones that decide to eat pussy and suck dick..if one just sticks the unit in the hole then the nose is pretty far away from the smelly bits as well. I'm not saying it would be pleasant, but just that in theory it wouldn't be all that unsanitary..in theory.
That said, apparently we are flawed and I'm not touching any of the other excretory organ topics--mostly because I'm not a cowboy in an Ang Lee film--so it wouldn't be my place. I might offend Jim with my opinions.
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That said, apparently we are flawed and I'm not touching any of the other excretory organ topics--mostly because I'm not a cowboy in an Ang Lee film--so it wouldn't be my place. I might offend Jim with my opinions.
I'm not offended. Your opinions about gay cowboys are just stupid, that's all. No offense taken.
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So, in the end, you've just proven that "human flaw" is a subjective term. You can nitpick flaws out of anything if you try hard enough. And even then, those "flaws" would only be "flaws" according to certain people.
The burden of proof for addressing how intelligent design explains the things I've mentioned and that r3x has mentioned falls on those who support ID theory.
i happen to believe in evolution, but pariah has a point here. and the burden of proof would, again, be turned back to evolution, just the same.
evolution is supposed to be every bit the aim for perfection that you're claiming divine creation would have to be.
if we're the process of evolution, then why do we have:
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Appndices.
Adnoids.
Male pattern baldness.
one theory makes just as much sense as the other, and every answer has its own earth-2 parallel answer with which ever theory you didn't select.
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evolution is supposed to be every bit the aim for perfection that you're claiming divine creation would have to be.
Never.
Claimed.
Perfection.
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thats neat, there, with the three lil lines.
but...
you asked "well, how come this? and how come this?" in your posts, listing flaws. i assumed you were questioning why there wasn't an absence of flaws. which, for lack of a better term, would be perfection.
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yeah and his sig is all fucked up too.......the Reds didn't win in 2005.
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thats neat, there, with the three lil lines.
I.
Agree.
Completely.
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yeah and his sig is all fucked up too.......the Reds didn't win in 2005.
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thats neat, there, with the three lil lines.
I.
Agree.
Completely.
Those aren't complete sentences!
Just one word and a period!
God, that makes me so angry and sick I could vomit all over your keyboard.
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yeah and his sig is all fucked up too.......the Reds didn't win in 2005.
that would require a divine intervention. 
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No.
Here's how I see it, Robbo.
If one is claiming "intelligent design" designed all life as we now know it as a final state of biological development and that there are no evolutionary processes in place, then why would an intelligent designer (at least on an intellectual level with us humans, certainly no less intelligent than humans) put...
reproductive and excretory organs so closely aligned physically(to the point that excretory hygiene should come into play with respect to genital health)?
put the nose of above the mouth so that when one has a cold, one's nose drips into the way of one's mouth to the point that it can interfere with eating and drinking?
useless organs in the human body like appendices and adnoids?
It just seems to me that an intelligent designer would not have designed these aspects of the human body in these manners.
These are just some examples.
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yeah and his sig is all fucked up too.......the Reds didn't win in 2005.
My signature refers to the numbers of times the Bengals made the playoffs.
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yeah and his sig is all fucked up too.......the Reds didn't win in 2005.
The.
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I can't disagree. They do.
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If one is claiming "intelligent design" designed all life as we now know it as a final state of biological development and that there are no evolutionary processes in place
is that the case?
are those who follow "intelligent design" claiming that there is zero evolution or variety involved? that there are zero imperfections, biological, mental, physical, or otherwise?
i haven't seen that. those that follow "ID" know, full well, they're not perfect, by any means. whether they're imperfect because of baldness or because they're sinners or whatever, i haven't heard anyone claim any form of perfection.
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then why would an intelligent designer (at least on an intellectual level with us humans, certainly no less intelligent than humans) put... reproductive and excretory organs so closely aligned physically(to the point that excretory hygiene should come into play with respect to genital health)?
put the nose of above the mouth so that when one has a cold, one's nose drips into the way of one's mouth to the point that it can interfere with eating and drinking?
useless organs in the human body like appendices and adnoids?
well, thats where i turned the question back... for that matter, if evolution is built on the philosophy of aiming towards perfection, why would we evolve with all those shortcomings?
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then why would an intelligent designer (at least on an intellectual level with us humans, certainly no less intelligent than humans) put... reproductive and excretory organs so closely aligned physically(to the point that excretory hygiene should come into play with respect to genital health)?
put the nose of above the mouth so that when one has a cold, one's nose drips into the way of one's mouth to the point that it can interfere with eating and drinking?
useless organs in the human body like appendices and adnoids?
well, thats where i turned the question back... for that matter, if evolution is built on the philosophy of aiming towards perfection, why would we evolve with all those shortcomings?
Whose to say we're done evolving? If we're still in the process of evolving, then we don't know if in another thousand years human beings will still have these "shortcomings". Evolution may not be done with us yet.
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Yep.
That's my biggest complaint with ID. No scientific theory of evolution asserts that humanity as it stands now is the final state of biological development.
I've yet to see an ID theory that postulates the possibility of further development.
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Yep, God intelligently designed Cockroaches and Gonorrhea to be immune to Raid and Penicillin. The Lord also made Native Americans susceptible to smallpox.
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Yep, God intelligently designed Cockroaches Gonorrhea and to to be immune to Raid and Penicillin. The Lord also made Native Americans susceptible to smallpox.
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So essentially Jim is just calling on the "Why do bad things happen if God exists" kneejerk. Of course he doesn't take into mind that the term "creationism" in and of itself has nothing to do with making our bodies with perfect precision--But again, perfection and flaws, in this case, are relative to the views of certain poeple. In which case, whether or not we can call the shortcomings of our bodies truely "flawed" is debatable.
Jim. You can't prove that your body is flawed since your ability to continue living is based on the user-friendlyness of the body in question. If it wasn't userfriendly the human race would have died out a long time ago. You simply view these things as flaws. Other people won't agree with you however. So, once again, I prove that your description of "flaws" is subjective.
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then why would an intelligent designer (at least on an intellectual level with us humans, certainly no less intelligent than humans) put... reproductive and excretory organs so closely aligned physically(to the point that excretory hygiene should come into play with respect to genital health)?
put the nose of above the mouth so that when one has a cold, one's nose drips into the way of one's mouth to the point that it can interfere with eating and drinking?
useless organs in the human body like appendices and adnoids?
well, thats where i turned the question back... for that matter, if evolution is built on the philosophy of aiming towards perfection, why would we evolve with all those shortcomings?
Whose to say we're done evolving? If we're still in the process of evolving, then we don't know if in another thousand years human beings will still have these "shortcomings". Evolution may not be done with us yet.
Actually: You're all wrong. You guys are thinking of macro-physiological natural selection, which was proven false a long time ago. The current evolutionist tune is based on the fact that random mutations make for different physiology. Nature, according to evolutionist theory, does not choose your body.
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