My folks use to like McCain but really see him as Bush part two for much the reasons Whomod states. I give him a bit more wiggle room because he's just doing what politicians do to get elected by their party. Yet some of McCain's about faces will really make it tough for me to vote for him. I may have to vote for the less experienced guy if Obama wins the nomination. Looking at G-man's posts on the Obama thread helps alot getting past that. (and he thought he couldn't influence people on this board)

Fair play!