RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Hillary in 2008

Will Media Matters finally go after Olbermann? This seems no better than anything Matthews or Shuster have said about Hillary in the past.

Olbermann is right.

youre getting emotional again.

Why, because I'm stating fact?

Well, I guess if I were a Republican I'd think that too.

That never stopped Media Matters from going after others.

see you just admitted, you dont think. you go with whatever party you are affiliated with. let the emotions go.

Point made. Point taken.

John Fund, of the Wall St Journal, on what the Olbermann attack means:

• Hillary Clinton doesn't easily apologize. But she did last night, telling a group of more than 200 black newspaper editors that she was sorry about comments made by her supporters that have upset African-Americans.
  
  She went on to "repudiate" remarks that Geraldine Ferraro, a Clinton supporter and 1984 Democratic vice-presidential running-mate, made suggesting Mr. Obama would not have been so successful if he were white. Mrs. Clinton pointed out that Mrs. Ferraro had resigned her post with the Clinton finance committee.
  
  Mrs. Clinton made her retreat on the same night that one of her most stalwart liberal supporters turned on her. In a blistering "special comment" tacked on to his MSNBC show, host Keith Olbermann accused Mrs. Clinton of "now campaigning as if Barack Obama were the Democrat, and you were the Republican." Mr. Olbermann didn't mince words -- he accused Clinton advisers of sending "Senator Clinton's campaign back into the vocabulary of David Duke." He tagged Team Clinton with "slowly killing the chances for any Democrat to become president" with its divisive campaign tactics.
  
  While Ms. Ferraro's words were certainly inartful, no one in their right mind believes they should be compared with the rhetoric of David Duke. The fact that former Clinton allies such as Mr. Olbermann are becoming so apoplectic is a sure sign that Mrs. Clinton is wearing out her welcome on the primary stage in many quarters.

i think olberman was referring to obamas pastor.

Obama has it wrapped up in my opinion. He may lose PA but that will be it. He will win more super delegates. He then will lose the general election to Johnny Mac.

youre part of the republican conspiracy.

That's great if true. Welcome back to the club, P.

it has to be true, wensday said that the republican want Hilary to win.

I am voting for McCain in November. He is independent enough for me plus conservative on the stuff I am too... like taxes and foreign policy.

i'm voting obama in november. he's left wing like me, plus he's a muslim religious zealot.

But MEM said that the republicans want Obama to win the primary.

Which oppressed minority to believe? The black Perkins or the gay MEM?

I never pictured you as a Muslim Relgious zealot BSAMS. For some strange reason, if any of us were to turn Islam, I always assumed it would be rex, given their belief that women should dress like giant socks couple with his rage issues.

perkins is voting on emotion, so i'll have to believe MEM.

oh thats right, i love my country. i take back the endorsement.

if it's obama vs mcain i vote mccain.

if it's hilary vs mcain i likely vote mccain but i havent made up my mind.

But MEM's gay so he could be voting on emotion too.

This is a real tough one.

while i'll admit hilary is manly looking i bet MEM knows she's not.

No he isn't but since it's all for Obama it's OK isn't it?

The more reasonable Obama supporters may want to muzzle some of the Olbermans out there because right now I don't have a problem voting McCain after listning to the liberal frat boys like that suck up to Obama & spew venom at Hillary.

plus obama is a terrorist.

I'm not a regular Olberman viewer since he's like a liberal version of Rush Limbaugh but did notice that he's been pro-Obama for quite a while now. His outrage is outragous & it's all about helping his guy Obama out. I knew the minute Ferraro's comments got out that they would be very usefull to people like Olberman who is the type of guy who uses accusations of racism as a tool. It was sad to see Obama also work the race card for his gain, although he was careful not to actual make that accusation. That's been left for his helpers.

Just out of curiosity: has "Media Matters" criticized Olbermann yet?

Since Olbermann falls into the liberal category it's not a Media Matters thing I'm assuming. I know you've felt otherwise in the past but they really are not Hillary's hit men as you've put it.

As a matter of fact, no. I even did a search, and nothing came up.

have whomod do the search, if he cant find anything he'll make it up for you!

From The Daily Kos: More Hillary Clinton and The Democratic Leadership Council shenanigans.



Well, the netroots is helping fund Obama and now the netroots is going to bail out The DNC from hillary's attacks on it. Seriously though, what he fuck??? She's attacking the DNC?? Beause she's not geting her way?

I'm really getting sick of Hillary's crap. Fighting tough is welcome. Fighting dirty is not. Now, I'm starting to wonder if even a small portion of the past vilification of the Clintons wasn't justified. I mean, urging your donors, for all intents and purposes, to blackmail the Democratic party? In essence, telling your donors that if you can't be the nominee then the Democrats should lose the election? (And that's exactly what's happening. Hillary wants the DNC to seat the delegates from the non-election that happened in Florida after the state willfully violated DNC rules, knowing full well what would happen if they did. Now Hillary wants all those delegates seated, from the non-election, so she can steal the election from Obama). Is it any wonder that 25% of Hillary's supporters say they won't support Obama in the general election? Hillary is the one telling them that they shouldn't support Obama, that they shouldn't support their own party. Howard Dean should tell Hillary Lieberman stop her crap, now, or resign from the Democratic party. Contrary to Her Majesty's thinking, there are other Democrats worthy of leading our country. Read more about Hillary's latest attempt to steal the election, from the NYT.

whomod, as you get older and less angrier you will find everything i have said is justified and correct. i'm glad you are slowly coming around.

You're just starting to wonder?

Well, okay. Seeing as how i've spent the better part of a month here trying to snap MEM out of his unfounded infatuation with her, that may not be entirely accurate.

But day by day, hillary proves my suspicions about her and the DLC correct. And now that they're going after Dean, a guy that pretty much was responsible for the Democratic wins of '06 and who inexplicably for Democrats, they despise, sort of crystallizes it.

what happened to mem? what happened to most of the lefty posters for that matter? the last day or two you've been the only one showing up. how's that for solidarity?

MEM has popped in a few times, typically to attack Obama for his association with the crazy racist minister.

zionists!

It's sad to see my fellow Dems who wanted every vote counted in Florida in 2000, now refer to counting votes as stealing an election. We will lose more than an election if the nominee ends up being decided because a state's election wasn't recognized.

btw, it's spring & there are many birthdays plus works been busy so I haven't been on as much.

I said it privately to another of the Democrats here:

The Democrats have screwed themselves. They changed the rules, and whether they stick to excluding Florida and Michigan primary votes, or arrange some compromise, or have another primary in both states, no matter what neither Hillary or Obama will recognize the result as legitimate if either one loses, and their supporters will be pissed off and reject the result as well.

Obama's people will call it "racist".

Hillary's people will say it was done in a way that favors Obama.


The only possible cure is to have a Hillary/Obama ticket, or an Obama/Hillary ticket. And frankly, I see peace in the Middle East as more likely.