Put it this way: The day Iran brings forth a Chou Enlai and Syria a Mikhail Gorbachev, sure, give them a call.
whomod (and wh0m0d as well) seems to overlook the fact that heads of state who willingly sponsor psychopath fuckers blowing themselves up to take out civilians probably won't be interested in making any concessions.
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Why do they have to make any concessions since the entire arab word has us by the balls because of our dependence on their oil and it's us who are buying the means to our own demise.
I was struck how after being bitch slapped by his Arab masers after begging them to increase production, Bush then went on to say that we need alternate fuels and conservation.
Where the hell has he been all these years?
Quote:
President Bush said Saturday that the Saudis' modest increase in oil production is "something but it doesn't solve our problem" of soaring gas prices.
Taking note of the kingdom's recent decision to raise production by 300,000 barrels a day, the president said the United States must act, too, to ease the gasoline crisis. He mentioned steps such as developing alternate fuels, improving conservation and expanding domestic exploration.
"We've got to do more at home," the president said on a lawn of a resort overlooking the Red Sea. He spoke after a private meeting with Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai.
I'm glad Bush gets these big ideas. Only many years AFTER everyone else does though.
You really are retarded. Bush has been pushing alternative fuels for years. He pushed corn ethanol (which is horrible) as well as devote money to Cellulosic ethanol research (which would be a far better alternative). Also, America gets most of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and South America, not the Middle East. The Middle East is important because their production volume are tied to per barrel costs on commodities trading of crude oil. Please learn to actually use facts.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
You really are retarded. Bush has been pushing alternative fuels for years. He pushed corn ethanol (which is horrible) as well as devote money to Cellulosic ethanol research (which would be a far better alternative). Also, America gets most of its oil from Canada, Mexico, and South America, not the Middle East. The Middle East is important because their production volume are tied to per barrel costs on commodities trading of crude oil. Please learn to actually use facts.
Posted: Sunday, May 18, 2008 5:14 PM by Mark Murray Filed Under: 2008, McCain, Obama
From NBC/NJ's Athena Jones GRESHAM, OR -- McCain will be getting his fair share of scrutiny from the press, his potential general-election rival Obama said here today.
During an event with mostly senior citizens, Obama was asked why the presumptive Republican nominee had not had to deal with much media scrutiny on issues like the Keating Five scandal. The voter felt the Illinois senator’s past had gotten all the focus. Obama said he thought part of the reason was that McCain’s candidacy had been written off several months ago, but that he had been able to come back and wrap up the nomination relatively early in the primary season, and that much of the focus had been on the exciting Democratic race.
“I would expect that the press will submit him to the same scrutiny that they are submitting me -- and if they don’t, I’ll have them talk to you because I can tell you would object,” he said. “I think people will lift the hood and kick the tires with John McCain, just like they do with me and just like they’ve done with Sen. Clinton. I think you’re applying for the presidency of the United States of America, then by definition you have given up your privacy and basically I think people are gonna want to know what you’ve done in your life and what you stand for.” ...
MSNBC A primary reason I wouldn't vote for Obama is that he hasn't been around long enough to be scrutinized properly. The press in general has given him a pass on the little bit there is to look at. Plus it's annoying that he's acting like MCain somehow has managed to escape scrutiny. Considering McCain has been in the senate & has ran for President before it's just dumb to treat him like he's never been scrutinized.
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The powerful US gun lobby has painted the 2008 presidential race as a showdown over the right to bear arms, but the election could also prove to be a key test of its political firepower.
At its annual meeting in Kentucky this weekend, the National Rifle Association focused most of its energy on gearing up its members to defeat the Democratic nominee in November, whether it is Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.
NRA leaders warned that both risk eroding gun ownership rights. But their influence is hampered by a tough national climate for Republicans, after eight years of President George W. Bush, and a mixed record on past campaigns.
"Your presence here today will send a very strong message to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton: we're watching," said Chris Cox, executive director of the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, at the group's leadership forum Friday.
He added that he expects the 6,500 people who attended the forum and the other 4.3 million NRA members to have a "very strong presence at the voting booth" in November.
While the group will not officially endorse a candidate until after the parties' national conventions this summer, it sent strong signals this weekend that likely Republican nominee John McCain would get its backing -- despite some differences with him in the past.
Addressing the NRA conference Friday, McCain sought to highlight his conservative credentials as he courted the gun owners' votes.
"For more than two decades, I've opposed efforts to ban guns, ban ammunition, ban magazines, and dismiss gun owners as some kind of fringe group unwelcome in 'modern' America," he said.
The NRA was widely credited with helping the Republicans take control of Congress in the 1994 election and make gains in 2000 and 2004, including Bush's election and re-election.
In 2006, the NRA's political arm boasted wins in 85 percent of the 276 US Senate and House of Representative races.
But Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said those numbers are misleading. He said most of those races included safe incumbents, and the NRA struggled in expensive battleground campaigns.
"They've never been as strong as they pretended to be," said Helmke.
Like the NRA, the Brady Campaign is in the early stages of targeting which of November's congressional and governor's races to become involved in.
Another gun control group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, began running ads in Kentucky this weekend in advance of that state's primary election on Tuesday and coinciding with the NRA conference.
The commercial features quotes from Clinton, Obama and McCain calling for background checks on people who purchase firearms at gun shows -- something the NRA opposes.
McCain acknowledged the divide on this issue but said the "real differences" were with the Democrats, saying Obama and Clinton had voted as senators "to ban guns or ban ammunition or to allow gun makers to be sued out of existence."
Other Republican speakers joined McCain and focused their rhetoric on Obama, who is currently leading his race with Clinton for the Democratic nomination.
Karl Rove, Bush's former political director, said Obama has been disingenuous by claiming to support the second amendment, which gives Americans the right to bear arms, while voting against the NRA's positions.
Obama countered in a press conference Friday that it was not inconsistent to back people's right to hunt and protect themselves while also pushing for "some common sense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago."
The debate underscores a weakness Obama has exhibited throughout the campaign -- connecting with white, rural voters, many of whom are gun owners.
He has been haunted by his own remarks last month at a San Francisco fundraiser, in which he said small-town voters have become "bitter" over job losses and "cling to guns or religion or antipathy."
The NRA handed out stickers that read: "I'm a bitter gun owner and I vote."
Rove, who emphasized Obama's "bitter" comments, urged NRA members to fight on McCain's behalf because "victory in November is not going to be easy."
"In this election, the stakes are very, very high when it comes to the constitution and the second amendment," he said.
Barack Obama embraced his daughters and his wife Sunday during a campaign event in Portland, Ore., which drew about 75,000 people. (Photo: Greg Wahl-Stephens/Associated Press)
Barack Obama embraced his daughters and his wife Sunday during a campaign event in Portland, Ore., which drew about 75,000 people. (Photo: Greg Wahl-Stephens/Associated Press)
Obama supporters in Portland on Sunday. (Photo: Chris Carlson/Associated Press)
Oh. A mom joke. I suppose I need to retort with a gay joke then.
If i was 12 perhaps.
There were 75,000 proud Oregonians there today. This broke Obama's previous attendance record by more than double. So i'll just bask in that fact instead. This guy is inspiring all sorts of Americans and if bsams last post is any indicator, all the Republicans have to offer is more fear, more rumour, more innuendo. After being held in the grip of this fear and swift boat crap for way too long, I don't think people are in any mood for another election cycle of it anymore.
But we all know Obama isn't anything like Hitler. Its not like he surrounds himself with America hating racists or anything.
Wow. You just called 75,000 of your fellow Oregonians who want to be inspired and believe in something better than George Bush wiping his ass with their country and all it stands for, "racists".
When millions in the U.S. have to acknowledge their black President, I'll see just who in this country is racist and who is not. Until then, I'd just worry about Appalachia.
Wow. You just called 75,000 of your fellow Oregonians who want to be inspired and believe in something better than George Bush wiping his ass with their country and all it stands for, "racists".
Yup, their all racist against white people and think Obama Christ will deliver them from evil.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
all the Republicans have to offer is more fear, more rumour, more innuendo.
Obama fact! He was married by attended a church his entire life run by a racist America hating ass hole! Obama fact! His wife has said on numerous occasions that she has never been proud to be an American! Obama fact! He's a socialist that will speed up the downfall of America! Obama fact! He's surrounded himself with people that are complete scum. You know what that means? He's no better then they are. Charisma does not make a good president. Spouting fifth grade rhetoric does not make someone a great leader. Being able to gather large groups of politically correct racists does not make someone qualified to run the nation.
Those are all facts. No rumors or lies.
November 6th, 2012: Americas new Independence Day.
Democrat Barack Obama has a message for Tennessee's Republican Party: "Lay off my wife."
Obama, his party's presidential front-runner, and his wife, Michelle, were asked in an interview aired Monday on ABC's "Good Morning America" about an online video last week by the state's GOP taking her to task for a comment some considered unpatriotic.
"The GOP, should I be the nominee, can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record," Obama said. "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."
The video, posted on YouTube, centered on remarks Michelle Obama made while campaigning in Wisconsin last February, when she said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."
The four-minute video replayed the remark six times, interspersing it with commentary by Tennesseans on why they are proud of America. In a news release that included a link to the video, Tennessee's GOP said "the Tennessee Republican Party has always been proud of America." It urged radio stations to play "patriotic music" during Michelle Obama's visit to Nashville last Thursday.
If he doesn't want people talking about his wife, she shouldn't be out their campaigning for him. That's just common sense. If a spokesperson for any candidate says something stupid, people are going to comment.
You know, for a politician that claims to be the enemy of cynicism, Barack Hussein Obama is quickly turning into one of the most cynical politicians I've ever seen.
Any comment against him is "divisive" or a "distraction".
It's clearly a cynical attempt to silence his critics and avoid actual debate.
Democrat Barack Obama has a message for Tennessee's Republican Party: "Lay off my wife."
Obama, his party's presidential front-runner, and his wife, Michelle, were asked in an interview aired Monday on ABC's "Good Morning America" about an online video last week by the state's GOP taking her to task for a comment some considered unpatriotic.
"The GOP, should I be the nominee, can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record," Obama said. "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."
The video, posted on YouTube, centered on remarks Michelle Obama made while campaigning in Wisconsin last February, when she said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."
The four-minute video replayed the remark six times, interspersing it with commentary by Tennesseans on why they are proud of America. In a news release that included a link to the video, Tennessee's GOP said "the Tennessee Republican Party has always been proud of America." It urged radio stations to play "patriotic music" during Michelle Obama's visit to Nashville last Thursday.
If he doesn't want people talking about his wife, she shouldn't be out their campaigning for him. That's just common sense. If a spokesperson for any candidate says something stupid, people are going to comment.
You know, for a politician that claims to be the enemy of cynicism, Barack Hussein Obama is quickly turning into one of the most cynical politicians I've ever seen.
Any comment against him is "divisive" or a "distraction".
It's clearly a cynical attempt to silence his critics and avoid actual debate.
Oh I think Obama knows that. I saw his "leave my wife alone" comments as really for show. It makes him look good image wise & the press is reseptive so it pays off for him.
With Obama we started out, we couldn't talk about his big ears 'cause that made him nervous. We've gone from that to this: Not only can we not mention his ears...
We can't talk about his mother.
We can't talk about his father.
We can't talk about his grandmother unless he does, brings her up as a "typical white person."
We can't talk about his wife, can't talk about his preacher, can't talk about his terrorist friends, can't talk about his voting record, can't talk about his religion.
We can't talk about appeasement.
We can't talk about color; we can't talk about lack of color.
We can't talk about race. We can't talk about bombers and mobsters who are his friends. We can't talk about schooling. We can't talk about his name, "Hussein."
We can't talk about his lack of experience. Can't talk about his income. Can't talk about his flag pin.
This started out we can't call him a liberal.
It started out we just couldn't talk about his ears.
well if rush limbaugh's says so then it must be true. could you please also link us to when he said the 13 year old chelsea clinton looked like a dog. and aside from george w. bush who's father was president exactly how often is it considered appropriate to talk about the candidate's parents or spouse? and while i understand that you GOPers like to have the simplest arguments possible, but is it really fair to judge a preacher's 20 years and many millions of words on like 10 words and 15 seconds? and is he "friends" with terrorists or is he simply open to talking diplomatically with governments who in the past have supported some terrorist actions? i mean it's not like he wants to sell arms to Iran to help fund some murdering contras. and he probably won't be declaring war on a guy he shook hands with only a few decades earlier (and then sold mustard gas to).
You really think its good for democracy that a man who has at least a 50/50 shot at being our next president is spending this much time telling us what we CAN'T talk about?
I'm very disappointed to hear that you don't think we should be able to discuss our elected officials, Ray. Why do you hate the First Amendment and, by extension, freedom?
Short version is Obama won't be spending anytime in Kentucky because it will highlight his weakness once again with certain voters that in my opinion make him toast in a general election. The bullshit this man can spew & get away with is impressive! I don't mean that as a slam either since it's part & parcel of being a politician. It just sucks that there are legitimate questions about how well he can do in a general & his way of dealling with it seems to be to not contest the hard states or take his name of a ballot if he can.
Exactly. Despite the pro-Obama liberal media calling Obama the winner at least two months ago, we're down to the last 5 state primaries for the Democrats, and Obama still hasn't secured the nomination.
He has about a 100-plus point lead over Hillary Clinton, but she arguably is as strong a candidate. Stronger, according to the polls, against McCain.
If Obama is the candidate, I couldn't be more pleased. After November, he'll be flipping burgers somewhere with Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter.
Exactly. Despite the pro-Obama liberal media calling Obama the winner at least two months ago, we're down to the last 5 state primaries for the Democrats, and Obama still hasn't secured the nomination.
He has about a 100-plus point lead over Hillary Clinton, but she arguably is as strong a candidate. Stronger, according to the polls, against McCain.
If Obama is the candidate, I couldn't be more pleased. After November, he'll be flipping burgers somewhere with Michael Dukakis, Walter Mondale and Jimmy Carter.
I doubt he'll be in the flipping burgers category for a couple of reasons. He raised a ton of money. More money than any other political type has done. Plus any loss will probably be chalked up to racism & a combination of dirty tricks of Hillary & McCain. So it won't be his fault & his fundraising ability will help him keep his support in the party. I would be very surprised if he doesn't run again in '12. Can you see it playing out differently?
Democrat Barack Obama has a message for Tennessee's Republican Party: "Lay off my wife."
Obama, his party's presidential front-runner, and his wife, Michelle, were asked in an interview aired Monday on ABC's "Good Morning America" about an online video last week by the state's GOP taking her to task for a comment some considered unpatriotic.
"The GOP, should I be the nominee, can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record," Obama said. "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."
The video, posted on YouTube, centered on remarks Michelle Obama made while campaigning in Wisconsin last February, when she said: "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country."
The four-minute video replayed the remark six times, interspersing it with commentary by Tennesseans on why they are proud of America. In a news release that included a link to the video, Tennessee's GOP said "the Tennessee Republican Party has always been proud of America." It urged radio stations to play "patriotic music" during Michelle Obama's visit to Nashville last Thursday.
If he doesn't want people talking about his wife, she shouldn't be out their campaigning for him. That's just common sense. If a spokesperson for any candidate says something stupid, people are going to comment.
You know, for a politician that claims to be the enemy of cynicism, Barack Hussein Obama is quickly turning into one of the most cynical politicians I've ever seen.
Any comment against him is "divisive" or a "distraction".
It's clearly a cynical attempt to silence his critics and avoid actual debate.
Oh I think Obama knows that. I saw his "leave my wife alone" comments as really for show. It makes him look good image wise & the press is reseptive so it pays off for him.
Ummm...how is this any different from the fact that Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater and any other number of Clinton scandals has been off limits on Hillary's side? A couple of months ago, there was the big stink with some kid asking Chelsea a question that she thought was out of bounds. For that matter, how many times has The Keating 5 been brought up in reference to McCain? On the rare times that I've seen it, his handlers have been truly pissed about it and call it dirty pool.
Michelle Obama is a political figure and should be held accountable for what she says when stumping for her husband. Her 'proud' satement was unfortunate and probably not indicative of her true level patriotism. However, she put it out there so I find it fair game...even if it is a chicken shit tactic.
The man wants to protect his wife. How can you fault him for that? Can those of you with significant others honestly say that you wouldn't repsond similarly if you spouse were attacked...whether justifiable or not?
Hell...remember when Pro ripped G-Man a new one for commenting on a pic of his wife? Pro knows the rules here...in that there aren't any...but, rightfully in my opinion, had an issue with G-Man making specific references to his wife. Pro kinda brought it on himself by posting the pic but, just because one CAN do a thing doesn't mean one SHOULD do a thing.
Oderint, dum metuant.
You are a god damned idiot, you know that? You ought to be smacked upside your dumb-fuck head, even after all these years. Shame on you!
1. I already said that Chelsea shouldn't be shielded from tough questions if she is going to go out and campaign for her mother; 2. The fact of the matter is that both Chelsea and Michelle (and Bill, for that matter) have taken upon themselves a public role as advocates for their respective family members. They aren't just relatives waiting in the wings. They are vocal supporters of presidential candidates, who go on talk shows, speak at events, etc. Accordingly, their remarks deserve the same level of scrutiny as any other public spokesperson for a candidate.
If Obama or Hillary (or McCain) don't want their relatives' remarks scrutinized, they shouldn't pimp them out as campaign spokespeople.
I agree. Still, I can't fault the man for standing up for his wife...just like I didn't fault the Clintons for going after the MSBNC reporter that said they were "pimping" Chelsea by have her campaign for Hillary.
Oderint, dum metuant.
You are a god damned idiot, you know that? You ought to be smacked upside your dumb-fuck head, even after all these years. Shame on you!
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