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Read the first issue today.....yawn. I gotta say I don't understand half the shit that Morrison writes. I guess each issue comes with some of his ejaculate since while he writes he jerks off in front of a mirror saying how much he loves himself.

* the opening scene....what was the point of that....to show how old the Black Glove organization is?

* the shit with the Joker at the end.....what is that supposed to mean. Was he imagining he carved up Robin and Nightwing.....dreaming it....what the fuck. And if he was imagining it, then when it was real time when he was getting an invitaion by the Black Glove to witness the death of Batman why did he really have blood all over himself?

Fuck You Morrison you piece of shit fuck face.


Spoilers.

SHIT FUCK FACER!

I wouldn't mind Morrie shooting his mental load all over Batman so much if it wasn't for the fact that all signs indicate that its going to end up also staining the far superior Dini 'Tec and the rest of the DCU bat books.

im givving it another issue or two...

I gave up back during the whole "there are all these bizarre bat-dopplegangers around and, oh look, Bruce got a heart attack and, holy shit its bat-mite" clusterfuck.

maddening

Question: Better or worse than Morrie's last X-Men arc with the talking whale? 'Cause THAT was pretty bad....

I'm more disappointed by his circle-jerk filler dialog. Those filler scenes with Robin and Alfred were atrocious in how they made light of the fact that Batman's identity is so well known.

But that stuff was total shit too.

Remember JLofA #0? I wonder if this is one of the "events" teased in it.

heh. almost forgot about that. i doubt it

Seems like a lot of that has been forgotten. That's why I give credit to Johns, he delivers on the teases.

Unlike Rob.

Free comics my eye...

Batman #677

Club of Villains discuss their method on how to take Batman down, and how it's different than Joker and the rest of the Rogues Gallery. (making his mental strength his weakness, and slowly wearing him down....yeah, that's never been done before ).

Batman brings Jezebel into the Batcave. She tells him that there are better ways to use his money.

Meanwhile, the Mayor of Gotham finds some information about the Waynes (Bruce's parents), and how it relates to John Mayhew, Mangrove Pierce, and Alfred. Gordon is the one being talked to about it, and he's heated.

In the cave Jet begins to notice how obsessed Bruce is about the Black Glove case, and starts to wonder if the Black Glove is him.

As Bruce continues to mentally break down, the Club of villains strike, Bruce faints. (Seriously) Club of Villains work over Alfred, badly.






























SPOILERS!

wow that is pretty fucking bad.

Holy shit. You mean that Morrie actually had the fucking balls to rip off....BANE?!?!?

I just read it........it wasn't the worst story ever. It wasn't great though either.

Pretty much. I do think the way the Club of Villians attacked Batman is interesting. They stripped Bruce of his fortune, burned the cave, and did something to Bruce. I wonder if they attacked the rest of the Bat family at the same time as well.


Also, if you did not already know...Spoiler is back. Stephanie Spoiler, not some imitation. Turns out she and Leslie faked her death, LOL!

where did they strip him of his fortune?

that stuff with Thomas and Martha Wayne was interesting. He was implying she was a drug addict and Thomas beat her. Could all be fake of course but still.

So all that stuff with the Three Batmen and Doctor Hurt was to lead to this......Doctor Hurt seems interesting why would Bruce have done that all those years ago anyway.


Azrael is coming back



spoilers.

With the faked info about Alfred really being his father or something that, that makes him not the heir to the fortune as I understood it.

we shall see.

Indeed.

God, this sounds stupid. Is Morrie trying to win a bet with Quesada as to who can fuck up a character more?

heh....until you said that I had forgotten about Spiderman. I gave the title up after One More Day how is it going does anyone know?

I ruined your day on the other thread on that topic.

I suspect that we're seeing a similar set of shenanigans here. DC and Morrie are going to fuck up Batman really bad and the hit the reset button during or after the absolute-positively-this time we mean it-final crisis.

I just wanted to change the name of the thread.

I think Batman is dying from lung cancer.



Smoking is bad for you, apparently.

QUEENIE! How's MaryMary?

Something about this cover to Batman 676 by Alex Ross



seemed awfully familiar to me.

Then, this weekened I was going through some of my trade paperbacks and I happened to see the back cover of "Batman: Child of Dreams:



Heh:



Not even the covers of this series are original.

You just gave Rob his newest wallpaper

that actually looks kinda cool.

As much as I like Morrison's work, I can't see myself staying with Batman for much longer. I read the last issue and just thought, "lame." I couldn't even muster up righteous indignation.

Honestly, I have Batman on my pull list, but I haven't read it in at least 7 months. Other than the Dini written ones, I haven't had much interest. And knowing that the final "Final Crisis" is gonna kill him (or whatever "epic" thing that they plan - I haven't really been following) has put the kibosh on my interest.

could it be possible that this story and the shock ending alluded to by Morrison is to do with us finding out that when Bruce's parents were killed, the trauma caused him to manifest a split personality ie the batman?

I think Jezebel Jet will be killed and this will cause him to regress and be sent to Arkham. This will tie into the badges that we have seen with different characters taking up the mantle of Batman ie Jason Todd, Nightwing, Tim etc

I came upon this theory because of things i have saw and read. One ofthe upcoming covers shows Batmans head 'split' with Bruce and Jet embracing, in the first enstallment of RIP Tim calls into question Bruce's sanity, also, way back in 52 Bruce emerged from the cave in Tibet and proclaimed he had been cured of Batman and Morrison has said everything he is doing with Batman stems from what he started in 52........

or:

The Black Glove is revealed to be Thomas Wayne. The revelation fractures the very foundation of the "Batman" and twists Bruce's already over stressed psyche to the point of madness. Yes Im kidding.

or:

It will be revealed that Bruce is really Joe Chill's son. The Waynes' son died during birth and they were given Chill's son. This causes Bruce to give up being Batman and Bruce Wayne.

Or:

Morrison told IGN that The Black Glove is the head honcho of the folks who want to kill Batman and is an actual person.

I think that person is Bruce Wayne, to be specific, a split personality of Bruce Wayne.

This is how Bruce Wayne and Batman "die," because the stress Bruce has been through recently causes him to fully embrace being The Black Glove.

This leaves room for the new Batman who will take over.
The personality thing works except in one way. He would almost need 3 personalities (Batman, Bruce, and Black Glove).

However Black Glove is, it appears it will be in the long list that knows who is under the masks in the Batman Family.

Also, I wonder could Black Glove be Damien's dad by chance or why aren't the results being shared with Tim?

Finally-would kind of be scary for Ra's to be behind all of this and pay back Batman by "paralyzing him" and locking him up.

or:

He was adopted out when he was 6 because his parents didn't want him anymore, that's what caused the trauma.

He totally made up the shooter in the alley to combat his feelings of abandonment while he was in a state run group home.

Then he killed the Wayne's so his little self-delusion would be true and took their money to fight injustices like the one his biological parents committed and he carried out on his adopted parents.

or:

I still say that Alfred has regressed back into the Outsider and he will be the one behind all of this. Still can't figure out what angle the Joker will play. (Which is good...Joker is always wild.) Morrison seems to be fascinated by the 60's Batman and the return of the Outsider would be something only he could pull off.

or:

THe whole thing seems like a big riddle to me. So I'm thinking Riddler.

Nygma knows who Batman is and would be able to mess with him with this knowledge. He would also make it a puzzle/ riddle for Bruce to figure out.

Riddle In a Paradox- that's what I come up with for R.I.P.

or:

Joe Chill? Or a family member if he really did kill himself?

That's been one of the few parts of Morrison's run that hasn't been touched on elsewhere. I think it would be an interesting hook for a villain. The death of the Wayne's made Batman. Chill dying, or just the act of Batman leaving him to kill himself, creates the Black Glove.

My own idea is that Chill's still alive. He knows Batman is Bruce and he knows that the death of his parents motivated him. He wants to completely kill any reason that Bruce would want to be Batman, so he has Jezebel convince him that he's crazy and has those rumors about the Waynes spread.
Hush still knows Batman is Bruce, and he's supposed to be involved in this story as well. He may not be the big kahuna, but he could definitely be a source of intel for the big bad.

You know, "Batman: Ego" had a pretty good deconstruction of the whole "Bruce and Batman are split personalities" thing and why that was a dumb idea years ago.

Proving, once again, that only "real" Batman left is the Dini-Timm-Cooke Batman.