Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
 Originally Posted By: britneyspearsatemyshorts
 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
maybe if i thought the comments made by wright were out of line or wrong i would care. but wright dressed up racial tensions with some colorful speech. the fact is how he feels is not so uncommon. and it's not about hatred of white people like the KKK is, it's about a feeling of being the victim and the anger that is all too human that comes with being a victim. what i care about here is that obama addressed the issue in a pretty fair manner, he admitted these issues are real and should be gotten passed.



have you seen KKK speeches on tv? they feel they are victimized as well. being a victim is self brought on, if you let people victimize you, you will be victimized, it isnt solved by expressing hatred for people who did nothing to you. the fact that Obama took his children to hear that every Sunday os very telling of him.

well, the kkk was formed because they felt "victimized" that black people were no longer slaves. and they organized to fight for segregation.
black people were slaves, experimented on, kept down in education and jobs. now things are obviously much improved today, but people have memories. wright grew up before civil rights so there is more of a sense of anger than someone like obama would have.



your ignorance of history, could be why you hold the views you do.

what ignorance of history? this is what really gets me about internet message boards. people say "you're wrong" or "you're ignorance of history" without explaining why they think the person is wrong, without presenting counter points.
If you watch the film Birth of a Nation, which the Hitstory channel aired one night about 6 years ago, you see the victim justification being used. that was about 100 years ago. long before bush, obama, or google.

But the fact, and the point of this, is that black people have been victimized for a long time. Whites haven't, not really. Whatever angry words Wright used, he didn't advocated terrorism or racial violence (at lease from what i read). He talked about very real issues. Very complex issues. And he used the language that was most effective with his audience, just like any other public speaker.
You can't just tell an entire group of people that slavery is over so they need to get over it, that the Tuskegee experiments were 50 years ago and they need to get over the government experimenting on blacks, that segregation is gone 40 years and they should just get over it. People remember things, it stays a part of their cultural identity in the same way that Irish people still bitch about St. Patrick and the English and Guinness (or whatever a typical Irish person does).
I think for a lot of lower income blacks especially it's harder to see the racial equality mentioned in one of wondy's "get over it" threads.

Bow ties are coool.